2018 world cup bid

[Filipower]

So from a bunch of options to host the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, FIFA went with the worst two. Classic Blatter & Co.

 

[Xifio]

haha, some of the negativity is hilarious ... but then again the 2022 World Cup is next week, right? if only Qatar had a decade or more to develop special policy strategies to deal with the alcohol-inclusive festival mentality that foreigners will be willing to shell out bags of cash for ...

 

[Filipower]

I don't give a **** how much time Qatar have to prepare.

 

[Elber2k3]

So it'll be like SA2010?!

Well... they have Vuvuzelas...

 

[ShearerM4]

So from a bunch of options to host the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, FIFA went with the worst two. Classic Blatter & Co.

According to FIFA regulations: "no more than one city may use two stadiums"

Doha will have 6

 

[RobbieD_PL]

I'm suprised they didn't make this a joint bid with Bahrain, Kuwait and/or UAE, that could have spread the venues out a bit.

 

[Mandieta6]

Right, so, I won't be getting to see a live WC match in the next decade.

 

[Ulysses]

world cup becomes worse with every instance. Common we already had South Africa now Russia and Qatar ?

 

[Sevillista]

**** FIFA, this is ******* gay.

That's ******* stupid.

So from a bunch of options to host the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, FIFA went with the worst two. Classic Blatter & Co.

I don't give a **** how much time Qatar have to prepare.

world cup becomes worse with every instance. Common we already had South Africa now Russia and Qatar ?

So much negativity, so little reason to back it up. Aside from the concern that no alcohol will be served in Qatar, I suspect most of the outrage is over the fact that the World Cups will not be in familiar Westernized countries.

Look on the bright side:
a) Both countries are going to spend a TON of money on stadiums and infrastructure.
b) We're still going to get great tournaments regardless of location.
c) No vuvuzelas.

Mandieta6, I think you'll have live matches during Brazil 2014, right?

 

[Filipower]

Yes, Mandieta6 lives in Rio.

None of my outrage is due to it not being organized in what you xenophobialy call "familiar Westernized countries".

There wouldn't be any vuvuzelas in England, Portugal, Spain, USA.

 

[fender]

Based on the video of the stadiums Qatar intends to have, the Al-Rayyan stadium looks like an advertiser's wet dream come true.

 

[Sevillista]

Yes, Mandieta6 lives in Rio.

None of my outrage is due to it not being organized in what you xenophobialy call "familiar Westernized countries".

There wouldn't be any vuvuzelas in England, Portugal, Spain, USA.

Haha, I was not being xenophobic. I was speculating that those who are unhappy with the selections are being xenophobic based on the fact that they are outraged for no particular reason.

I would have preferred Spain/Portugal and USA for obvious reasons, but from an unbiased standpoint I have no problem with FIFA's selection. Even if people are unhappy with the selections, I think they are overreacting... what's the worst that can happen? The only negative result we're going to have from this is Qatar's goal difference at the end of the 2022 group stage

 

[Pogba4Now]

Doesn't matter to me really where the WC is held. Most important is the quality of football on the pitch.

I don't get why you guys think WC in Qatar would be like SA2010. I think it definitely has the potential of being much more successful than SA2010. Having been to Middle-eastern countries, I know that people are very enthusiastic about football and wouldn't go to games just to blow trumpets.

Oh and congrats to Qatar for their first ever WC qualification.

The only negative result we're going to have from this is Qatar's goal difference at the end of the 2022 group stage

Hahaha

 

[Mus]

According to FIFA regulations: "no more than one city may use two stadiums"

Doha will have 6

Are they changing the rules for this or whats the go?

 

[Pogba4Now]

Hope fans enjoy the 'no alcohol' policy in Qatar. I'm sure they'll love not being able to enjoy a cool beer in 40 degree tempretures...

Weather
As the World Cup usually occurs during the northern hemisphere's summer, the weather in Qatar was a concern with temperature reaching as high as 50 degrees Celsius. However, the Qatar bid's chief executive, Hassan al-Thawadi said "Heat is not and will not be an issue." The Qatar 2022 Bid's official site also explains:
"Each of the five stadiums will harness the power of the suns rays to provide a cool environment for players and fans by converting solar energy into electricity that will then be used to cool both fans and players at the stadiums. When games are not taking place, the solar installations at the stadia will export energy onto the power grid. During matches, the stadia will draw energy from the grid. This is the basis for the stadiums’ carbon-neutrality. Along with the stadiums, we plan to make the cooling technologies we’ve developed available to other countries in hot climates, so that they too can host major sporting events."

This method of cooling techniques would be able to reduce temperatures from 40 to 20 degrees Celsius. The bidding committee also proposes to use such cooling technologies in fan-zones, training pitches and walkways between metro stations and stadiums

Alcohol
Hassan Abdulla al Thawadi, chief executive of the Qatar 2022 World Cup bid, said the Muslim state would also permit alcohol consumption during the event. Specific fan-zones will be established where alcohol can be bought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup

These issues have been addressed, so you guys can stop crying.

The only thing I have against is that they have never qualified for the WC. I think its gonna be as successful as 2002 Jap/Kor.

http://www.football-marketing.com/2...world-cup-bid-unveils-solar-powered-stadiums/

Wow very very nice stadiums.

 

[Sevillista]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup

These issues have been addressed, so you guys can stop crying.

The only thing I have against is that they have never qualified for the WC. I think its gonna be as successful as 2002 Jap/Kor.

http://www.football-marketing.com/2...world-cup-bid-unveils-solar-powered-stadiums/

Wow very very nice stadiums.

Those are crazy awesome. I hope they pull it off.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

The "solar cooling" technology is bull****. Unless they play all indoors games it's going to be ******* hot no matter what they do. I can't BELIEVE FIFA just took them at their word on this.

Most of the party of the World Cup doesn't go on in the stadiums, so the alcohol laws are still a major concern.

Not to mention that 1) Qatar doesn't stand a ******* chance at qualifying for the World Cup legitimately and it will be a top seed and 2) their record on stuff like not recognizing Israel, civil rights, and women's rights are absolutely terrible. Oh and... security was a "concern" for England's bid, but we have no problem with Qatar? I wouldn't go within 100 miles of a Team USA game at this World Cup.

 

[Pogba4Now]

The "solar cooling" technology is bull****. Unless they play all indoors games it's going to be ******* hot no matter what they do. I can't BELIEVE FIFA just took them at their word on this.

What if it actually works? If football pitches can be heated to get rid of ice/snow, why not the opposite?

2) their record on stuff like not recognizing Israel

Israel
The head of the Qatar bid delegation has stated that should Israel qualify, they will be able to compete in the World Cup despite the country not recognising Israel.[10][11][12] Israeli athletes have competed previously in Qatar, such as Israeli tennis player Shahar Pe'er in 2008.[13]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup

...civil rights, and women's rights are absolutely terrible.

You should do some more research.

Gender equality
In 1999, Qatar came to allow women to legally vote and gain senior positions in government.[12][2] The country is still, however, a monarchy, despite major steps towards a ruling council or Republic-style system. There are no laws preventing women from dressing how they like, provided they refrain from being provocative, as is expected of men as well. However modest clothing is still worn by both women and men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar

Oh and... security was a "concern" for England's bid, but we have no problem with Qatar? I wouldn't go within 100 miles of a Team USA game at this World Cup.

Tons of tourists go to Qatar, UAE and surrounding countries for visit. Have you ever heard of concerns of security there? These countries are very tourist-friendly.

Thats the problem. When people think about middle east, all they think is terrorism. What makes you think that security will be a problem there? Qatar hardly has a history of "terrorism" or security problems if I can recall correctly.


As I said before, the only thing I have against Qatar is that they have never qualified for the WC before. Kind of unfair. But otherwise, I think its gonna be nice to have it in the middle east. Good for a change.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Why not the opposite? Are you ******* serious? Because what you're talking about is done with hot coils underneath the turf that DOESN'T KEEP THE PLAYERS ON THE PITCH WARM AT ALL, IT JUST REMOVES SNOW AND EVEN THAT NOT VERY WELL! This is basically an attempt to pump air conditioning into an open air stadium in 120 degree heat which WILL NOT WORK and even if it does it's still going to be absolutely miserable on training grounds and for the fans.

It's kind of funny that all of the stuff you quoted was the equivalent of polishing a turd. They're great on women's rights... they just must dress modestly or be severely punished. We are being so benevolent and wonderful by allowing Israel to compete if they qualify even though they are a legitimate member of FIFA and the subtext is "we won't like it and will probably give them apartheid style accommodations".

And btw, yes I have heard of security concerns in Qatar:

http://www.forbes.com/2005/03/25/cz_0325oxan_qatarattack.html

But regardless, just because there haven't been many attacks doesn't mean anything. First of all, there has never been any reason to strike in Qatar; the World Cup provides the first reason for a terrorist network to target the area. Does Qatar have the resources to deal with a major terrorist threat? Particularly in light of what I can only assume is relatively open borders with Saudi Arabia? I would guess that they aren't even close to having the kind of security personnel to handle the possible threat, and again, this is pretty troublesome considering it's geographic proximity to the nations that actually produce most terrorists and how the limited government may not be fully focused on the entire length of it's borders when the country is swamped with tourists.

 

[Sevillista]

Not to mention that 1) Qatar doesn't stand a ******* chance at qualifying for the World Cup legitimately and it will be a top seed and 2) their record on stuff like not recognizing Israel, civil rights, and women's rights are absolutely terrible. Oh and... security was a "concern" for England's bid, but we have no problem with Qatar? I wouldn't go within 100 miles of a Team USA game at this World Cup.

Qatar will probably hire Hiddink and get past the group stage

I'm not too concerned with security atm, but it will be interesting to see what the political climate surrounding the Middle East will be like in 2022. A lot could change in the next 12 years, for the better or for the much much worse.

It's weird to think that we'll be seeing about 99% new players by the time this tournament rolls around...

Responding to your latest comment, Qatar doesn't have a whole lot of border to patrol... I don't know what security would entail, but I think there would be an advantage to securing a small country. And I'm probably being naive here, but I don't think middle-eastern terrorists would be interested in targeting an event that is this important to their region.