A critical observation

[Tonce]

As for Tipperligaen (people care yes)
The big SIA Bouncer MW made the adboards. Link
Makispla numbers. Link

I was the one who requested Makispla to make these numbers, and I helped SIA Bouncer find pictures from matches in our league to help him make these adboards. So yes, of course I do care. I only play Tippeligaen ingame.

Of course I'd love to make the kits, but our season ended last month and there's no point in making the kits now as it won't be a new season until March. Then, maybe I will do a kitpack with kits for the 2016 season

Besides you can find the most beautiful kits in the Tippeligaen right here (The GK kit got crap quality for some reason.. the file looks fine)

 

[Tavadi]

I did not know English so well, maybe I do not quite understand the essence of all the above, but hats off to such masters like Hagi, Tonce, makispla, Pepis, Haribofan and brothers from Portugal for their contribution to the development of quality games.
At the same time, I want to stand up and the author of this topic, I think he is doing the right things with the leagues are not in great demand.
And finally, to all the world and peace of mind in this difficult time.

 

[TitoMadrid]

I'm not going, it was just a joke

Haven't seen any Norwegian people apart from me they must be hiding well...

Hello.

 

[Tonce]

Hello.

Hei

 

[TitoMadrid]

Hei

You're not alone.

 

[Tonce]

You're not alone.

Good to see

Btw, got this in my archives. Only have the home kit, sorry
I could make the GK kit quickly though since I already have the template. It's the green one right?

 

[TitoMadrid]

You should make Vålerenga's new kits. The Umbro ones.

 

[Tonce]

You should make Vålerenga's new kits. The Umbro ones.

I definitely will

 

[TitoMadrid]

Maybe I need to buy FIFA for PC for Career Mode now. Moddingway with their UCL / UEL and new VIF shirts. I could survive the apocalypse now.

 

[Tonce]

Maybe I need to buy FIFA for PC for Career Mode now. Moddingway with their UCL / UEL and new VIF shirts. I could survive the apocalypse now.

I'm in 2021 with Viking on career mode. Got a pretty good team with only youth scout players Won the CL every year haha... If only that could happen in real life

But now we're going offtopic. Sorry

 

[caio89]

I'm glad ][guNNer][ is appreciating my works, but to be honest, I am only using EA's templates because it the easiest and fastest way for me to produce something. I'm simply not as skilled as some other guys here are with texture editing because I have never really spent much time trying to understand how it works, but I'm trying to get better. Maybe for the next FIFA game I'll be able to draw my own textures

I agree with ][guNNer][ when he says that sometimes it may seem "unnecessary" that five kitmakers make the same Barca/Man Utd/[insert popular team here] kit. Just this weekend I was going through the Turkish league on FIFA and found that EA put many outdated/incorrect kits in the game. However, nobody made kits for these teams in this forum (except for Galatasaray and Fenerbahce which were made by Hagi). Same for the Portuguese league.
I was curious and searched for PES kits for these leagues and was really surprised because there are HD kits available for all these teams. It seems they cover a greater variety of teams with their kitmakers - is their community bigger or do they have some sort of agreement? I'm not sure how they achieve that.
At the end, as it has been said, it's up to every kitmaker himself which teams he wants to make and I personally am grateful for anyone that shares his work with us.

 

[drigOrange]

I think what he means is that there must be some standard to which kitmakers can adhere to so that the kits are uniform throughout the game. For example, one could create a HQ adidas GK template which can then be used by the others to create versions for respective teams. Also, not every kitmaker in the forum has to make a Barcelona kit, do they? Choice is always good, but with the number of teams in the league, is it worth the effort? I think the gist of what he's saying is lost in the translation (if it is).

N.B.: This is what I believe to be the OP's argument, not my personal view on the matter.

It is perfect for this concept which I refer.

The KITMAKERS should have as its main objective, improving everything to what is generic by the EA. This is quality.

There are leagues such as Sweden, Belgium, Switzerland that no one ever cares.
So what quality is this?

Meanwhile, recreate hundreds of licensed kits "full" already relatively good.
Clearly may be greater than the work of the EA, but honestly, I do not see much need.

 

[drigOrange]

I think Gunner as a point, but i don’t agree with him when say that we can use EA templates.
This is a forum so it’s use to talk and sharing ideas and kits. If some you, Good Kitmakers, would work together to improve a better quality kits will be perfect. There’s so many (good)kits of the great teams but if each one make the same teams kits it’s quite annoying.
So there’s an idea. Some of you could share some labels templates (adidas, nike, puma, macron or others) for those who want to have their little town team in game, but don’t have your skills. Of course those who want to use those templates must keep the credits of the creator.
With that this community would reach a large number of teams from every world.

Think about it!

Exactly.
If all work together in an organized manner, all leagues would be perfect.
And who would win the FIFA 16. It's something simple to understand.
Meanwhile, we have 500 kits for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid will be the perfect one (resolution in 4K) in the middle of the generic world, totally lifeless.
And that's quality realism? Think.

 

[drigOrange]

I was the one who requested Makispla to make these numbers, and I helped SIA Bouncer find pictures from matches in our league to help him make these adboards. So yes, of course I do care. I only play Tippeligaen ingame.

Of course I'd love to make the kits, but our season ended last month and there's no point in making the kits now as it won't be a new season until March. Then, maybe I will do a kitpack with kits for the 2016 season

Besides you can find the most beautiful kits in the Tippeligaen right here (The GK kit got crap quality for some reason.. the file looks fine)

It was amazing pack kit Viking. I'll use.
If you complete the league this season, present in FIFA 16, it would be much more interesting than repeat the same kits that already exist. lol
In my opinion this is what should be done.

 

[drigOrange]

It's pretty much the same as EA, just let me laugh

You are crazy?
I said his kits, are virtually the same as the EA. And not equal.

You just gave an improved slightly, with Benfica made by EA, there was nothing so bizarre.

Version EA


Version Master Pi a Gi


You will laugh at it too?
It seems that you have completed the generic Portuguese league. Please.

 

[Master Pi a Gi]

You are crazy?
I said his kits, are virtually the same as the EA. And not equal.

You just gave an improved slightly, with Benfica made by EA, there was nothing so bizarre.

Version EA


Version Master Pi a Gi
​

You will laugh at it too?
It seems that you have completed the generic Portuguese league. Please.

Just compare my friend and then we will talk




There is a fucking huge gap of quality as you can see or i guess you have a problem in your eyes. Oh and i also added european versions and alternative shorts and the 2nd GK kit.

There is missing GK kits, but that always has missed, in other years the difference was smaller due to the number of kitmakers that were active.

There is also missing kits for a couple of teams that aren't even full licensed, to give you examples Portugal NT, Tondela and União da Madeira. One kitmaker here done Tondela and União(sorry for not reminding the nick of the kitmaker)

If you have problems that i want Benfica perfect in game, is normal since im a supporter, i guess you also like to have Gremio perfect in game. That's life.

I know to make kits, if i were a facemaker i would focus on Benfica faces, i dont have any problem admiting it, theres a lot of Neymar faces and a lot of players that have generic. I can request all Benfica faces and i get rejected and i have to accept it since its an hobbie, nobody here gets paid to do this. Everybody is free to do what they want.

I feel sorry for guys that want the kits for teams that are neglected, all i can say is to request and maybe you guys will get lucky.

I dont want to implement a system where the people are forced to do what the other people want, this isn't an editing team, if you want to do that join a couple of kitmakers and start doing that.

If i make Real Madrid and Tonce for example makes it also for me it's ok, everybody has diferente styles, i dont like seeing people putting waves on the kits, i feel like it's regressing to 5-6 years ago where everybody wanted the game to implement the shadows, but it's their style.

Benfica kits were made for personal use at the beggining, like the numbers and other things i made, i wasnt even planning to release it since i lost a lot of free time to do this, so it's normal i focus on what i will use in game.

What you want requires time and patience and people, you can't just create and thread criticizing the kitmakers for not doing those kits. If you want the kitmakers to share their templates to do that work it's up with each kitmaker.

 

[Tonce]

It was amazing pack kit Viking. I'll use.
If you complete the league this season, present in FIFA 16, it would be much more interesting than repeat the same kits that already exist. lol
In my opinion this is what should be done.

Thanks, glad you liked the Viking kitpack
I probably won't make a Tippeligaen kitpack until February/March at least. Our season is over and I want to make the kits for the 2016 season

 

[The NDR]

It's these kinds of work that makes the game rich when you talk about quality.

Because for me, Tonce's, Hagi's, Yuri's and Telmo's kits are the real artwork. EA workers those who make kits are like robots. They do something fast and amount of the work done is high, but the quality is shitty. These kitmakers are like artists, they spend their time to create a realistic think to you, to me and to the other site visitors.

It's so damn bad to critisize them for what they do. I am from Turkey and I support Galatasaray. So you say Galatasaray is in game and there is no need to make a kit of Galatasaray here.

When I see this, this is a piece of junk that EA made. It's terrible.

Because Galatasaray wore that shitty shorts once this season. They wear white or black short in matches. And you can see we have "Dumankaya" ad on our chest. Also the circular Turkish Crest which is given to the both teams those are the champions of the league and the cup last season. And the color is nowhere near our real colors. That red looks like damn pink!

So you must understand the occasion from others' point of view.

And for a last addition. We have a great logo maker called cristiantodean. Why not use EA's logos? You tell the difference...

Even the badge is wrong on the EA's version... It's pixelated on bottom areas... The letter S in the logo doesn't go front on the bottom intersection... Which is done truely by cristiantodean...

 

[Grinsmonster]

I think that there many players do not care whether the seams there are where they should be .. no one looks on it whether the seams are there where they should be ... who played FIFA does look on the game not on the seams

 

[Tonce]

Damn my kit looks like shit when you put it against Hagi's