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A moral question

Alex

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This thread popped into mind randomly the other day. What ended up happening with this guy Sir_Didier_Drogba? Or was this hypothetical?
 

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No A is not hypothetical, he is a genuine friend of mine, though I must confess he has really let me down lately by not helping me out with something he could easily take care of.
 

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The thing that reminded me of this very thread, was that I was sitting watching a movie or TV show with my wife the other day, and in it someone in a relationship cheated and then told their partner. My wife and I discussed this, and my wife said "telling your partner is in fact selfish - you only do it to make yourself feel better. It in no way helps your partner."

I found that funny, because that's basically exactly what I was saying earlier in this thread about your friend Sir_Didier_Drogba. Especially when people were saying "the guy should tell his girlfriend" "honesty is the best way" etc.

Telling her seems like the right thing to do, because it's "honesty" - but what is actually achieved from it, other than relieving the guilt of the cheater.
 

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ARIAGA II;3843348 said:
Everyone knows you're A, Alex.
Ha. I can only wish Sir_Didier_Drogba would call me a friend :p

Even more so, I wish I was good enough with girls or good looking enough that I so much as had the opportunity to sleep with loads of girls (whether or not I'd take that opportunity I don't really know without being in the position).
 

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Alex;3843358 said:
Even more so, I wish I was good enough with girls or good looking enough

I'll vouch for this.

Besides, Sir_Didier_Drogba said his friend was a New Zealander.
 

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Interesting discussion. I want to add this more abstract view. A general rule about cheating, or lying in general: the longer and the more you do it, the bigger the secret you're concealing gets, the harder it gets to controle and contain it. Generally how it goes with this type of lying (talking big lies here) is that the cheater builds one lie to conceal the other, and then another one and so forth until the lies reach such an unrealistic and unbelievable level that there's no other way but for the truth to come out.

As the cheater it is then up to you to decide whether you at least want to allow yourself the dignity of controlling the moment of revelation yourself or you keep lying and lying until the one you're lying to finds out by him or herself, usually with nasty social repercussions for the cheater that reach beyond just the one you're lying to. In such an instance you usually heavily damage your own social reputation.
 

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Mandieta6;3843386 said:
I'll vouch for this.

Besides, Sir_Didier_Drogba said his friend was a New Zealander.
I don't think Sir_Didier_Drogba befriends Aussies :(
 

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Zlatan;3843388 said:
Interesting discussion. I want to add this more abstract view. A general rule about cheating, or lying in general: the longer and the more you do it, the bigger the secret you're concealing gets, the harder it gets to controle and contain it. Generally how it goes with this type of lying (talking big lies here) is that the cheater builds one lie to conceal the other, and then another one and so forth until the lies reach such an unrealistic and unbelievable level that there's no other way but for the truth to come out.
This is the first time I've read a post by someone calling for "honesty" that I think I've actually agreed with. With any lie, the more you lie, the more you have to lie to cover for the lie. You could easily end up living the lie.
As the cheater it is then up to you to decide whether you at least want to allow yourself the dignity of controlling the moment of revelation yourself or you keep lying and lying until the one you're lying to finds out by him or herself, usually with nasty social repercussions for the cheater that reach beyond just the one you're lying to. In such an instance you usually heavily damage your own social reputation.
This is where I tend to disagree. It still doesn't mean that the lie will definitely eventually come out. And whilst lies can have a tendency to grow and grow for a certain period, they also fade and are forgotten about after enough time. That's another reason I wanted to know about Sir_Didier_Drogba's friend again. Has he kept up the behavior? If he has calmed down, than perhaps the concealment will die slowly, and it was a victimless crime. The longer he keeps it up, the more chance of the lies growing out of control.
 

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Aussies are so awful that SG used to have its own Sub-forum prison for them to stay in and not corrupt the site as a whole. It unfortunately broke.
 

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Mandieta6;3843416 said:
Aussies are so awful that SG used to have its own Sub-forum prison for them to stay in and not corrupt the site as a whole. It unfortunately broke.
Hahaha, that wasn't just Aussies but Kiwis too.
 


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