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Albania 2 Greece 0?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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Chris16

Youth Team
Personally,

I haven't insulted 1 person.

I have merely brought up facts (which by the way people seem to avoid)...

And it's not like the two of them have been angels...

[This message has been edited by Chris16 (edited 10-28-2000).]
 
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Denis Enchev

Guest
Chris:

basically you agreed on everything i said ,except Georgatos ,which is good.

I really don't know what was the reason he came home, but i've seen him play and I KNOW he wouldn't have become a World Class player if he stayed there longer, because most of the time he was merely a substitute and even if he started a few games sooner or later Inter was gonna buy a very expensive player to fill his place....

about "the greek intelligent way to solve problems" it's just stupid to say that when i've seen that whole thread and everything, which you greeks said - and frankly THE INTELLIGENCE IS LACKING....

and i simply don't agree that cussing show's lack of intelligence, because i don't know a single person who wouldn't be forced to do that when they read what some of the people here had to say - so no, cussing doesn't show a lack of intelligence ....

and by the way i have the feeling that you greeks are very far away from your ancients in every aspect - don't take me wrong though - maybe it's just when football is involved...

nuff said , let's not go on with this stupid thread....

[This message has been edited by Denis Enchev (edited 10-28-2000).]
 

Chris16

Youth Team
When did u see Georgatos play?

If they were gonna buy another LB anyway, how come they offered more money to keep him?

When have I responded in a non intelligent way?

What do u know about the Ancient Greeks?

hmm?
 

George Hatzigeorgiou

Club Supporter
Jari-

OK, you state that you have 4 world class players... hmm let's see... Jari Litmanen. He had reached the world class level and my hat goes off to him. BUT, he was only a world class player when he played for Ajax Amsterdam. After Louis Van Gaal left Ajax for Barcelona, he took players of his choice with him from Ajax like Kluivert, Deboer, and Litmanen. Had it not been for Van Gaal Litmanen wouldn't have ended up in a team with the likes of Barcelona. It only happened b/c Van Gaal liked him and i support this b/c now you see that there is just no way Litmanen can play with so many other world class players in a team like that. The age factor is also taken into consideration, however, the bottom line is that Jari Litmanen was once a world class players and b/c of that he will always be remembered as of one and no Greek, Turk, Albanian, Russian or anybody else will disrespect him. Now as of the other 3 world class players that Finland has... name them... Hyppia? I wouldn't classify him as a world class player but more like a middle class player. Denis named a few world class players and he seems to know the definition of a world class player... Denis what is your oppinion about a world class player? Now I want to turn to the other comment you made about us Greeks being childish and that anyone who would look at our comments would laugh at us? Well, if they think that the way we talk is funny then I wonder what would they do when they read that "na na... the g(r)eeks are threatening what should i do?" Then you started talking about how football is a 4th rated sport in Finland... shows how much you people know about football when the rest of the world thinks that football is the most popular sport... even the United States football (soccer team) can beat you when they have Basketball, American football, Hockey, Baseball, Golf, and Tenis prior to football... Now WOW WOW... excuse me... how gave you the right to talk about Olympic legends... you want to know about Olympic legends... Have you heard of Spyros Louis, the first runner ever to win the marathon? Just the fact that Greece parades first in ever Olympic game start ceremony should shut your mouth up. Then you turned to big firms... what about Panafon and Telestet you ignorant motherf*****? Then you call us Greeks barbarians when you seem to forget what you told RR earlier in this forum about how you could have destroyed Russian single handently you Nazi lovers... and then you talked about Greek women? Greek women for Chirst sake? You haven't seen any Greek women make a satisfactory appearance in beauty pageons... so you would know Miss Universe 1996 was Greek... you need to check your stats on this again Jari. Now, you said Pamela Anderson has Fin roots. I don't know about that but i'll trust you on this one... fine and I will repeat that one more time b/c i want to support another argument that i will make later... PAMELA ANDERSON HAS FINISH ROOTS... then you said that in the Jay Leno show they said that Nordic women are the best in the world... you just hummiliated Nordic women there buddy b/c the Jay Leno show is a commedy show.

Luc- When did you see Olympiakos play man and you state that it's preety funny if this is the best team we have... did you see them play in the Netherlands against Heerenveen when they lost 1-0 to the worst team in the Champions League this year? did you? Well, yea... they were preety pathetic on that one b/c it was the coaches fault... obviously b/c he played defensive football hoping to get the the draw in the Netherlands... I don't know what the hell he was thinking... but then he realized what a ****en mistake he made and the result was the game against Valencia... now did you see that too you asshole... or why don't you tell us why Per Zetterberg left the fine team of Anderlecht for Olympiakos... obviously this man had some brains and saw was was better for him...

Denis- We never claimed to be a superpower... some of the comments about Greek football world class players were a bit to extreme... the matter of fact is that Greece has a world class player and thats Nikos Machlas and Dimitris Eleftheropoulos (rated the top keeper in the Champions league last year, and was voted for the greatest save in Champions League history)... Georgatos, Choutos, Liberopoulos are all middle class players... We only claimed that Greece is better than finland in National Team level... Inter was stupid enouph to keep Georgatos huh? shows how much you know... INTER offered to pay him double the money to stay for Inter but he showed that he only wanted to play for Olympiakos, not caring about how popular and good Inter is... Inter fans were crying when he did not show up for the first practice in San Siro... 300 Inter fans came to the Olympic Stadium of Athens with banners like INTER FANS WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU... YOU'RE SIMPLY THE BEST... BETTER THAN ALL THE REST... in the game of Olympiakos-Valencia

Matason- now, you fall even lower than Jari... b/c of you i have now reclaimed some respect of Jari... Stan Lazaridis has Greek roots just like PAMELA ANDERSON HAS FIN roots... the only reason why he plays for Australia is b/c he tried out in Greece and didn't make it... isn't it true that half of the Ausie league is consisted of Greek rooted players and that your Champions Last year in the World Club Cup had a Greek name?

-George
 
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Denis Enchev

Guest
Chris:
when did i see Georgatos play? - a few times - do you expect me to tell you the dates?!! (would be quite stupid of you)

how come Inter offered more money to keep Georgatos? - because they wanted a good enough susbstitute for their better player - you know injuries and etc.

when have you responded in a non-intelligent way? - when did i say that particulary you didn't respond in an intelligent way? - but if you wanna know - in your previous post - "How about u don't talk out of your *** anymore Denis??" - that's not exactly intelligent is it? - you think i can talk out of my *** ? strange cos i as an intelligent person don't think that's possible...


what do i know about the Ancient Greeks? -quite a bit - tell me what do you want to know and i'll try to answer you (i guess you don't know Carlos anyway)

hmm? - aheemmmmmmm

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George Hatzigeorgiou

Club Supporter
Denis- Inter offered Georgatos double the money b/c they wanted to keep him... speaking of inteligence i don't think Inter is stupid enouph to pay so much money for a substitute... and if you realy want to know... you football no nothing... Georgatos didn't start the first 5 matches for Inter... then he was a regular for the rest of the season, except one or two times that he was injured... now... tell me, who did Inter have that could have replaced him?

-George
 

Chris16

Youth Team
Bravo Georgos!!!

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Denis, I know alot abotut he Ancient Greeks because I am Greek. I grew up with Greek influence. Always heard stories and things from my relatives. And then when I was a little older I did research. REAL RESEARCH. About my ancestors. I most likely know more than u...

And the fact u told me to tell u ALL that I know, shows how much u really know about it. Their isn't enough time to sit here and tell u ALL the stuff I know about AncientGreece. Their is so much. Their were so many differen't priods (Alexander's,rise of Athens,Sparta etc...)

Now about GEORGATOS, I didn't say the exact date (I don't know why u would imply that??)

I am wondering did u see him in CL play?

In SERIE A?

In the Greek Leaue?

With the Greek NT?

When? Against who? Thats not unreasonable...

PS So Inter were paying Georgatos 7.5 mil a year, they opted to pay twice as much (15 mil if u need the math to be done) to have him stay, and then to go buy a MORE EXPENSIVE player??

Does that make any sense??

Why wouldn't they buy the "Expensive" player, see how much they had left, then see if they could keep Geo or buy a cheaper LB...


Hmmm????
 

Luc Nilis

Youth Team
GEORGE,
What kinda freak are ya??
i hated wasting my time reading that stupid article...
I wonder why your wasting you time typing it...
I KNOW YOU LIKE TRY TO PROVE THAT THE GREEKS ARE A SUPERIOR RACE, but your overeacting!!
And the part about Zetterberg...
Zetterberg left Anderlecht after 6 beautifull years because of the money, not the club!!
In Olympiakos he earned 5 times the money he earned in Anderlecht. (they need't a good player because Zahovic had the brains to leave Olympiakos, and saw what was better for him)
BTW: i saw olympiakos-Valencia and i thought it was a weak and BORING match!!
Your not saying that greek legeau is better than the finish, your saying the (the sucking)GREEK legeau is one of the best in the world, and for such arogance i have no respect at all


 

Jari Litmanen

Reserve Team
Ok this is starting to seriously amuse me. George , it is a pure fact that we have larger international firms than you. Don't proove otherwise cause you're way out of your league. Panafon and Telestet !?!? I have never in my life heard of those firms.
Finland has Nokia mobile telecommunications the fifth largest company in the world rated higher than, let's say for example, Coca-Cola Co. Nokia is like Litmanen it definately does not need an intro. Then Linux is from Finland ever heard of that it is the ONLY competitor to Microsoft and is the most used operating system in France and the netherlands. Heard of Wilson tennis rackets.. You know the best ones in the world. Used by Pete Sampras for example.. www.amer.fi have a look
Amer owns and makes Wilson but also Atomic which are the worlds best skis. As used by skiing legend from austria Hermann Meir.
So 'nuff about the firms because we clearly have better ones.... Oh and also George I could beat the american football team single handled they know nothing about football. This is why they called it soccer. They ruined the name of the beautiful euro game.

Remember greeks that the vikings from Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Iceland attacked England and took over it. We were the most feared force on the planet at the time. Finland has Paavo Nurmi who has won the most olympic medals ever in the history of the olympic games and I know the olympics are from greece. Mount Olympia in greece is where the flame is from and I am fond of the ancient greeks. They were very interesting.
Finland is the home of motor sports. we even invented going down in the turns in motor biking. Jarno Saarinen invented it and he is a legend still in Italy where he died in Monza and his statue is next to Aryton Senna's. That is why current italian F1 driver Jarno Trulli has the name JARNO...
Forza Finland

 

George Hatzigeorgiou

Club Supporter
Luc-

Jesus Christ man, do you have an atention defisit disorder or something? How many times do I have to say that we are only trying to prove that the Greek National team is better that then Finland? Now why does your brain come up with alternate ****? Where did you actualy see that? And where the **** did you see me talking about Greeks being a superior race? You are funny man, I love to see what you come up with everytime you post something on this forum!

Per Zetterberg told the media that he came to Olympiakos party for the money ofcourse (but he also said that he would have came to Olympiakos with less money, as he had offers from Fiorentina and Arsenal with more money offered to him that Olympiakos), because he wanted a more chalenge and b/c he wanted to play for Olympiakos b/c HE SAID they are at a higher lever than Anderlecht, and b/c the Greek league is better than the Belgium League ACCORDING TO HIM, but he didn't fail to mention that he will always love Anderlecht, and that one day he might return, that's why Olympiakos and Anderlecht have a good relationship and Olympiakos is sponsoring a section of the Anderlecht offical website to inform Anderlecht fans about Per.

Zlatko Zahovic obviously had some problems. Everyone in Greece knew that Olympiakos was not where Zahovic wanted to go. Olympiakos made a mistake and pushed forward the Zahovic deal, and the reason he came here was b/c of the good relationship between Olympiakos and Porto. The president of Porto said that "if Zahovic wants to leave Porto he will go nowhere, but Olympiakos", not because of the players will... this is the mistake that Olympiakos made... but they learned their lesson... if you want to be a world class football class you have to not take **** from anybody... whether that is Rivaldo, Del Piero, or Zahovic... Olympiakos followed the examples of Arsenal and Real Madrid with Nikolas Anelka and got rid of him after putting a ban on his contract and after giving him another chance.

And realy? Tell me what you have found boring in the Olympiakos-Valencia game other than the fact that you are trying to put Olympiakos... The bottom line is that Olympiakos beat Valencia and they have a better aggregate in the group now as they lost 2-1 in spain.

-George

P.S. When I replied to Jari's comments about Greek women, Greek firms etc I was not trying to claim that we are an inferior race... i was proving his statements of Greek women not being able to come forth in beauty pageons, and non-existant Greek firms.



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George Hatzigeorgiou

Club Supporter
Jari, there is no doubt that Finland has better and more popular firms than Greece... I never said that we have better... I said that we have some too... and just b/c they are not known in Finland doesn't mean they are not popular... now that we got that cleared why don't you stick to the point you started about football and not try to hide behind other issues my friend...

-George

P.S. You can singlehandetly beat the United States football team? Why don't you just take over the world while you're at it... lol

P.S.2 I study in the United States... the people who gave the name soccer to football in the states where the media, when they were afraid that the meaning of their American football was going to change... but for your own information... I play football here... and people who are involved in football in the States call it football.

Ok this is starting to seriously amuse me. George , it is a pure fact that we have larger international firms than you. Don't proove otherwise cause you're way out of your league. Panafon and Telestet !?!? I have never in my life heard of those firms.
Finland has Nokia mobile telecommunications the fifth largest company in the world rated higher than, let's say for example, Coca-Cola Co. Nokia is like Litmanen it definately does not need an intro. Then Linux is from Finland ever heard of that it is the ONLY competitor to Microsoft and is the most used operating system in France and the netherlands. Heard of Wilson tennis rackets.. You know the best ones in the world. Used by Pete Sampras for example.. www.amer.fi have a look
Amer owns and makes Wilson but also Atomic which are the worlds best skis. As used by skiing legend from austria Hermann Meir.
So 'nuff about the firms because we clearly have better ones.... Oh and also George I could beat the american football team single handled they know nothing about football. This is why they called it soccer. They ruined the name of the beautiful euro game.
Remember greeks that the vikings from Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Iceland attacked England and took over it. We were the most feared force on the planet at the time. Finland has Paavo Nurmi who has won the most olympic medals ever in the history of the olympic games and I know the olympics are from greece. Mount Olympia in greece is where the flame is from and I am fond of the ancient greeks. They were very interesting.
Finland is the home of motor sports. we even invented going down in the turns in motor biking. Jarno Saarinen invented it and he is a legend still in Italy where he died in Monza and his statue is next to Aryton Senna's. That is why current italian F1 driver Jarno Trulli has the name JARNO...
Forza Finland

 
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Denis Enchev

Guest
Chris:
when you post something like your last post, that's what make people cuss and swear - a bucket load of bulls**t ? WHEN THE F**K DID I TELL YOU TO TELL ME ALL THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ANCIENT GREEK? ONLY IN YOUR LITTLE PUNK MIND - I SAID TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW, YOU.....ANYWAY....

wathing Georgatos play is far from a big occasion in my life ,so i don't remember the date and the opposition - but i've watched him at least 3-4 Seria A games....

also i can't believe Inter has offered that much money - think again - maybe it's just your imagination ....

and i don't know about your REAL RESEARCH (which makes you so proud) but in my country there's a subject even in primary school called history where we've covered quite a lot of Ancient Greek history , and we've studied it in high-school as well so don't give me that **** about how complex is the Ancient Greek history cos i most probably know even more than you

now buzz off , tired of arguing with you even more about a highly-overrated player like Georgatos


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Jari Litmanen

Reserve Team
Here is to show how big we really are in motor sports for the ones bringing it up. Everyone knows Mika Salo and Häkkinen. Oh and 6 time in a row rally champion Tommi Mäkinen and the 10 drivers from Finland before him. Here is to show how famous Jarno Saarinen motor bike legend is in Italy: http://www.motoclubjarnosaarinen.com/ http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/3917/jarno.htm

"Jarno's death, along with that of Renzo Pasolini at Monza on 20 May 1973 was a great tragedy which appalled the motorcycling world. Rarely has one man received such adulation and achieved so much on the race track in such a short time. Jarno died a hero's death on the race track doing what he always did, riding 10/10ths. But, he didn't want to do die and he died needlessly and in doing so the world lost a larger than life motorcyling celebrity."




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Kostas 7

Guest
The Vikings???????????? Hea this relly makes up good conversation. A hole entire country taking credit for ones physical beuty? (Pamela Anderson a Canadian) Now were talking science, who needs intelegent talk!!!!!!
 

Giovanni7

Club Supporter
Ok now I'm pissed off.But lets have a row in things:
a)Enchev if I do what you know on your face would be ok?I'm a punk but not in the way you want.Also how would YOU know ANYTHING bout Greece after all?I think your Russia is so pathetic that was disqualified for World Cup 94 by poor old Greece.....HAHAHHA
b)Nilis:Olympiakos has problems that you wouldnt understand.However if he passes we wish Anderlecht will be in the same group as him.Also I'm not bulied by anyone cuz here in Greece things are different....we're not so "soft" as you people.We are Mediterranean.If someone ****s with me I mince his face.No bull****.
c)Litmanen
ork....I dont think you are even close to us.Also Olympiakos is not PAO you stupid man.You should know before you speak.
We'll see who's better when we play(again).Also it doesnt matter if your taller in fighting.The technic is the matter. Also with a couble of chains you'd see THE TRUTH!
d)Other guy(dont remember name):Lazaridis is greek the same way Fillipides in tennis is.They have greek origins clearly.
Also for all of u.Georgatos is amongst the 5 top LBs in the world.In 1998 when Olympiakos reached 8 in C.League he devastated Davids against Juventus.In Inter he was fine but due to his stupidness he came back.Lippi admitted he wanted him more than nothing else but Georgatos didnt want to come.As for Zahovic if Anderlecht wants him they may have him! He has the worst character a footaballer can have!
Maybe Im insulting some in high levels but hey you did too!
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Denis Enchev

Guest
another example of how patetic you greek people are - i really hope not all are like you Giovanni.

now, i'm not gonna cuss though i really want to, because i don't want to lower myself to your level ...

first, I was born in Bulgaria, which might come as a surprise to you narrowminded, brainless greek - and we kicked the hell out of you in WC 94 and ALMOST every other time we've played you, and for your information, you didn't disqualify Russia - they played in the world cup and did much better than you - Salenko scored 5 goals in one game which is a record in a wc match.

but anyway that just shows that you know Carlos about football

now, it won't be ok to do "what you know" on my face ,so it seems you'll have to do it on your father's face again...sorry

now piss off the forum, because people like you really ruin it
 

George Hatzigeorgiou

Club Supporter
Jari- For Chirst's sake man... no wonder all of us hate you in here... no doubt Finland has some of the finest people in motorcross, but what pissed me off is what you said:
"Here is to show how big we really are in motor sports for the ones bringing it up."
MOTHE****ER YOU BROUGHT THIS UP...
ONCE AGAIN... WHY DON'T YOU STICK TO THE ****EN POINT THAT YOU RAISED IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS FORUM ARTICLE... YOU ARE JUST PUSSING OUT AREN'T YA MAMA'S BOY?

Denis- Since you are this excelent researcher and you don't believe what Inter did to keep Georgatos why don't you do yourself some research and find out. And so you won't waste your time i'll help you out a little bit... why dont' you go over to the official Internazionale website... click on english language and find out about yourself... this way you'll prevent some humiliation and shut up about it before i rob some facts in your face.

-George
 

Giovanni7

Club Supporter
Ok I agree that I made some mistakes there.
Did you ever tell you are Bulg.?Throught by the surname you were Russian.We came first and Russia 2nd but you are right they passed.
As for my father's face I'd like not to answer here but privately.You also be a man I'd like to "meet" in person.I'm not ruining anything.You must admit you are ALWAYS tempting for any Greek person.You cant just say either "we are the best" or "you are the worst!".That is what pisses me off most of all.
 

Giovanni7

Club Supporter
Also non-greek ppl you CANT possibly know more about Greek History than ANY greek.Ok you learn about it in school but so do we and in even better terms.And Im not trying to insult anyone or anything with this.
 

RussianRocket

Youth Team
"I think your Russia is so pathetic that was disqualified for World Cup 94 by poor old Greece.....HAHAHHA"


well well well.... Since Denis is not Russian, I will take that insult to me.... Russia is pathetic? You really need some more braincells, man... This is unsafe to be so idiotic in this time, you know....

Russia qualified to the USA 94... And scored more goals in group stage than anyone...
We did not qualify for the knock-out stage, just because in our group was Brazil (1st place in the WC) and Sweden (3rd place in WC) to whom we lost both games, obviously... Plus, our forward Oleg Salenko won the best goalscorer award, and got the golden boot (or some other top award)....


And the WONDERFUL Greece I have been praising here in this topic THE WHOLE time managed to produce people like you... Unless you are not Greek, of course......


 
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