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Arsenal F.C. Thread [2011/12]
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RVP has issued a statement that he disagrees withg the club's directives about its direction, and won't renew his contract. So, either he leaves now or for a free next summer. My bet is on this summer. But where to and for how much?
I'm not sure who the big players are, but I'd include Chelsea, City, Madrid and Barcelona purely out of spending power. PSG might convince van Persie, but I'm doubtful, and Malaga surely won't. I also think Juve are interested right? Other than that, it's places with cash and need for a ST who can compete at the top. I can see Spurs giving it a go. AVB could convince van Persie, they need a striker and they have the money if it's needed. I'm thinking they'd get priced out of a move since Arsenal would rather sell to a foreign team.
If Chelsea can jew Arsenal down to somewhere in the low 20m range, which is pushing it, I would mark for the move. There's a lot of reasons not to do it, mostly money, but still.
But my guess is he'll go to City for a sum closer to Fabregas.
I'm not sure who the big players are, but I'd include Chelsea, City, Madrid and Barcelona purely out of spending power. PSG might convince van Persie, but I'm doubtful, and Malaga surely won't. I also think Juve are interested right? Other than that, it's places with cash and need for a ST who can compete at the top. I can see Spurs giving it a go. AVB could convince van Persie, they need a striker and they have the money if it's needed. I'm thinking they'd get priced out of a move since Arsenal would rather sell to a foreign team.
If Chelsea can jew Arsenal down to somewhere in the low 20m range, which is pushing it, I would mark for the move. There's a lot of reasons not to do it, mostly money, but still.
But my guess is he'll go to City for a sum closer to Fabregas.
Sounds like the drunk, psychotic bitch ex.
yoyo913
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The Knicks have money.
Imo this is a sleazy move by RvP, he had all those injured filled seasons and Arsenal stuck by him, paying his salary without his contribution. He has a good season and does this. Arsenal shouldn't even want him back at this point, he is very much not interested in the club's well-being.
Imo this is a sleazy move by RvP, he had all those injured filled seasons and Arsenal stuck by him, paying his salary without his contribution. He has a good season and does this. Arsenal shouldn't even want him back at this point, he is very much not interested in the club's well-being.
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I could see them getting on fine without Cesc and Nasri, but this one really hurts IMO. Not easy to find a striker like that. Wingers and even central mids are easier.
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If he comes to us I can so see him being another Shevchenko. He's 29 next month and injury prone. If we could get him for 20m, I would say it may be worth the punt, but no more.Mandieta6;3265877 said:
I wouldnt think he would go to Tottenham, they are hardly likely to win any more trophies than Arsenal next season. I think Real Madrid is a strong possibility and of course City is always on the cards. PSG unlikely unless they pay through the nose, Juve I think he would quite like to play for but wont be able to find the money.
A smart Wenger would wangle a deal with Man City to get 10-15m plus Dzeko and maybe Kolo Toure back or Adam Johnson.
Great way of getting me all worked up with tension again just after a mini vacation to relax myself. This is a ******* disgrace.
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Sir Sir_Didier_Drogba;3266245 said:
Exactly. Why hasn't he taken advantage of these deals to get some of City's less used, decent players? Of course you may argue that "they want titles and bla bla" the usual crap, but surely he could have gotten SOMEONE. Instead of ******* Benayoun.
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Benayoun is a Chelsea player who spent one year at Arsenal on loan and is now back at Chelsea where he has another year on his contract to run. Arsene bought him in last minute to add depth to a depleted squad and he was fairly successful.
The problem is that thus far Arsene Wenger does not seem to be able take any advantage from his high profile sales. The way these things should work is that clubs who have fallen out of the top tier should find talent, turn them into valuable players and sell them on at a premium (so far so good for Mr Wenger) but then use the proceeds of those sales to bring in a mix of new talent and stars with artificially low price tags and club expectations (ie quality players sitting on the bench at clubs like City or with something else artificially lowering their rep). This way you gradually increase the depth of your squad whilst having new stars come through to replace those which leave and and is the only way to get back to the top if you dont have a billionaire owner throwing money around. Wenger, however (whether through pressure from Kroenke or, as I suspect, his own stubbornness) WILL NOT reinvest this money or negotiate the sales tactically. He seems to snobbishly think that once a player is "tarnished", he is not worthy of coming to Arsenal, the club of pure football (contrast this with Redknapp who had great success putting his trust in players which were "tarnished" and therefore artificially cheap eg van der vaart or adebayor) and he seems to also believe that spending a penny more than rock bottom on a player is a waste because he has created the liked of Fabregas and van Persie from nothing (or very little) and thinks he can do it again and again and again. Yes, maybe he will have more strokes of genius like that, but those alone cant rescue a club, they take time, they do not help with the issue of depth and as a result they merely create top stars to be sold to top clubs for big fees which are absolutely useless if not reinvested or properly negotiated, and therefore the cycle continues.
The problem is that thus far Arsene Wenger does not seem to be able take any advantage from his high profile sales. The way these things should work is that clubs who have fallen out of the top tier should find talent, turn them into valuable players and sell them on at a premium (so far so good for Mr Wenger) but then use the proceeds of those sales to bring in a mix of new talent and stars with artificially low price tags and club expectations (ie quality players sitting on the bench at clubs like City or with something else artificially lowering their rep). This way you gradually increase the depth of your squad whilst having new stars come through to replace those which leave and and is the only way to get back to the top if you dont have a billionaire owner throwing money around. Wenger, however (whether through pressure from Kroenke or, as I suspect, his own stubbornness) WILL NOT reinvest this money or negotiate the sales tactically. He seems to snobbishly think that once a player is "tarnished", he is not worthy of coming to Arsenal, the club of pure football (contrast this with Redknapp who had great success putting his trust in players which were "tarnished" and therefore artificially cheap eg van der vaart or adebayor) and he seems to also believe that spending a penny more than rock bottom on a player is a waste because he has created the liked of Fabregas and van Persie from nothing (or very little) and thinks he can do it again and again and again. Yes, maybe he will have more strokes of genius like that, but those alone cant rescue a club, they take time, they do not help with the issue of depth and as a result they merely create top stars to be sold to top clubs for big fees which are absolutely useless if not reinvested or properly negotiated, and therefore the cycle continues.
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