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It's not only the group game.. last year they didnt win Bundesliga with 20 points like they did with Guardiola, also lost to dortmund in DFB Pokal in semi finals, and they got knocked out in CL at Quarter Finals..sacking your manger after a poor performance in a GROUP game is madness.
Even we didn't sack Rafa right after the clasico.
Hoeneß is more crazier than Perez i guess???
The team has gotten worse and worse under Ancelotti. This was merely the final straw. He has alienated several key players who hate him not to mention Lewandowski who speaks against the club like he never did before. The organization is complete shit; last year there was a bit of Pep's positional game left, this season it is all gone and the players are clueless in this non-system. It isn't one game. It was last season when we got eliminated in the first knockout stage. It is the draw to Wolfsburg, the ass whooping to Hoffenheim. The lack of any kind of organization at all. Very telling that it wasn't just Ancelotti that was sacked, but his entire management team including fitness coaches. Seems Clement had a big impact on Ancelotti and not the other way around. He had to go. The dropoff from Pep to Carlo was massive and things were not getting better. The slide has been constant and consistent since Carlo took over. We had no chance in the Bundesliga this season under Ancelotti.
Maybe Guardiola set the bar too high and now it's complicated for other managers to come up with something similar? Not to forget the team has to learn to play without Ribéry and Robben, both who seem to be slowly phased out. Thank Ancelotti for setting the foundament for that.
Also, I feel bad for James.. He finally got a move he wanted, to play under the manger he excelled the most.. And now he's left to hang in the dry again. I hope Sagnol keeps playing him as much as possible, same with the next manager.
I want all Colombianos to be in the best form possible before the World Cup.. The only position lacking is the midfield.. Carlito Sanchez is always incredible, but there's no Aguilar type of player, and he can be very shoddy and slow at times. Like Carrick for Man United right now..
Also Shifty, you're being too negative. Considering the squad you have you'll win the league no matter what, I think.
I don't think anyone can leave out James, he looked amazing in his first game with Bayern. I actually disagree about Carlo starting to phase out Robbery; if anything he did not continue with that like Pep had. Last season I didn't see Douglas Costa or Kingsley Coman at all. It was incredibly frustrating. Kimmich got phased out after starting the year white hot; Sanches wasn't given any opportunities at all and when he was, it wasn't in a position for him to succeed. Alaba went from one of the most impressive players in the world to a pretty average left back; Boateng and Hummels seem completely disrespected. Boateng IMO is the best defender in the world, so I thought that was idiotic too.
I also think that 1) a trophy is not guaranteed at all. I have a ton of respect for Bosz and it looks like he and Dortmund are killing it. Neuer may be out for the entire season, which is a HUUUUGE blow and makes it a lot more challenging.
Anyway, it is Heynckes right now, who I think is a good interim appointment. The players obviously respect him a lot and I think he can get them to work hard and at least challenge Dortmund for the league. After that it seems to be Naglesmann. It is a Hoeness appointment after Rummenigge fucked up the Ancelotti hire, so we shall see how that goes.