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Champions League 2007-2008

$teauA

Superstar
So the groupstage is done. Here are the 16 qualified teams:

Porto
Liverpool

Chelsea
Schalke

Real Madrid
Olympiakos

Milan
Celtic

Barcelona
Lyon

Man. Utd.
Roma

Internazionale
Fenerbahce

Sevilla
Arsenal


The draw for the Round of 16 is on the 21st of December.

Out of all those teams I can see the following winning it all: Liverpool, Milan, Barcelona, Man. Utd., Inter, Sevilla, Arsenal. Yeah, that's a lot but I think all those teams have what it takes to win it all.

I think Sevilla though are dangerous as hell. It would not surprise me one bit to see them win it all.

Should be a great competition from here on end, some juicy match-ups on the horizon no doubt.
 

Interista13

Starting XI
Pffft, guys, stop waisting your time trying to pick who wins!

The way Inter have been playing in the CL it's obvious we will win it all! (H) :rockman:

P.S. I also think Arsenal have a good chance too...and Barca, and Man Utd...
 

adedawson

Senior Squad
Quite interesting to see 5 British teams again. Almost 6 had rangers qualified. Impressive.

good luck too them all
 

Fernandez

Team Captain
Olympiakos surprised me. They were expected to be last in their group but they were impressive in their matches.
 

Lonestarr022

Starting XI
Its hard to say right now, the knockout matches arent until February, so a hot team right now can be cold by the time the actual match is played
 

Help?

Fan Favourite
Yeah, look at Milan last year. Bunch of old guys and yet went from strength to strength. Although not caring too much about Serie A helped them big time too, but that's not to take anything away from them.
 

$teauA

Superstar
Bobby;2451916 said:
Only one that really scares me is United.

Seriously? That's being cocky man, real cocky.

Lonestarr022;2451938 said:
Its hard to say right now, the knockout matches arent until February, so a hot team right now can be cold by the time the actual match is played

I don't think it's that much about 'being hot' but more about roster depth and all those teams that I mentioned all have incredibly deep rosters which is why I think they all have a chance.
 

aaakkInn

Club Supporter
Interista13;2451880 said:
Pffft, guys, stop waisting your time trying to pick who wins!

The way Inter have been playing in the CL it's obvious we will win it all!

...

that inter WE WON in First match of CL groups? :)

be sure about ur opinion...because man utd or sevilla can win inter ..

i am just worry about ; zlatan ;)
 

adobe_sun

Youth Team
I don't think Seville is a contender. Sorry, but they just don't have the CL guts to do it.. They might not even reach what Villareal did 2 seasons ago.. (semifinal).. After all, Villareal did it with some luck in the draws too, but i think Seville will go through to 1/4 finals, cos they would draw Olympiacos or someone, but after all, the real contenders are MU, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chalsea, Barcelona, RM, Inter.
This is it. i exclude Milan, because no team doubled a trophy so far, and i do doubt the oldest team in the CL 2007/08 will do it. Milan will get fitter and tougher than this poor form they're now in,but the other teams will knock them out, this is 90% assured.

From the other teams, everyone has big chances. According to bookies (lowest coefficient) and according to whom i support, Barca and MU are favs. However, experience from the previous season shows, the favorites struggle badly and fall out. I'd say RM (for the sake of the perfect roster they have and the great coach they enrolled) and Liverpool (mainly because of Rafa's coaching) will be the ones who will clinch the title.
Arsenal, Chelsea and Inter? I'd say not. Chelsea are definitely not better than previous years; Arsenal are too young, even weak old Milan can outplay them; Inter .. I doubt they can handle Porto, not to mention bigger teams. If they had more players from Zlatans' quality, they would have been major competitors..
 

aaakkInn

Club Supporter
ur totally right i think..but i'd like to see for final match ; man utd - inter.. we'll see...we have to wait untill times come..
 

$teauA

Superstar
adobe_sun;2452139 said:
I don't think Seville is a contender. Sorry, but they just don't have the CL guts to do it.. They might not even reach what Villareal did 2 seasons ago.. (semifinal).. After all, Villareal did it with some luck in the draws too, but i think Seville will go through to 1/4 finals, cos they would draw Olympiacos or someone, but after all, the real contenders are MU, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chalsea, Barcelona, RM, Inter.
This is it. i exclude Milan, because no team doubled a trophy so far, and i do doubt the oldest team in the CL 2007/08 will do it. Milan will get fitter and tougher than this poor form they're now in,but the other teams will knock them out, this is 90% assured.

From the other teams, everyone has big chances. According to bookies (lowest coefficient) and according to whom i support, Barca and MU are favs. However, experience from the previous season shows, the favorites struggle badly and fall out. I'd say RM (for the sake of the perfect roster they have and the great coach they enrolled) and Liverpool (mainly because of Rafa's coaching) will be the ones who will clinch the title.
Arsenal, Chelsea and Inter? I'd say not. Chelsea are definitely not better than previous years; Arsenal are too young, even weak old Milan can outplay them; Inter .. I doubt they can handle Porto, not to mention bigger teams. If they had more players from Zlatans' quality, they would have been major competitors..

Seville has all the qualities of a club that can win the whole thing. They have the experience of winning two straight knock-out tourneys with the UEFA Cup, they have the individual talents in Kanoute, Dani Alves, Luis Fabiano among others, they have a great home field with fantastic supporters. I could go on and on.

Real Madrid aren't contending for anything until their defense gets better. Some of the goals they allowed in the group stage were comical to say the least.

I can't see on what basis you can exclude AC Milan, after all they are the current champions of the competition and I'm sure NOT ONE of those teams in the draw want to meet them. It doesn't matter how old the roster is, they are the most experience team of the lot and when you have Kaka, Seedorf and Pippo you should always be favored to win the whole thing. About no team winning the tournament back to back, if you mean since it was rebranded as the Champions League then you are right but the last team to win the European Cup back to back was guess who? AC Milan in 89-90 and 90-91.

Your last paragraph is a joke. You base who you think will win based off bookies and who your favorite clubs are :|?
 

adobe_sun

Youth Team
$teauA;2452148 said:
Seville has all the qualities of a club that can win the whole thing. They have the experience of winning two straight knock-out tourneys with the UEFA Cup, they have the individual talents in Kanoute, Dani Alves, Luis Fabiano among others, they have a great home field with fantastic supporters. I could go on and on.

Real Madrid aren't contending for anything until their defense gets better. Some of the goals they allowed in the group stage were comical to say the least.

I can't see on what basis you can exclude AC Milan, after all they are the current champions of the competition and I'm sure NOT ONE of those teams in the draw want to meet them. It doesn't matter how old the roster is, they are the most experience team of the lot and when you have Kaka, Seedorf and Pippo you should always be favored to win the whole thing. About no team winning the tournament back to back, if you mean since it was rebranded as the Champions League then you are right but the last team to win the European Cup back to back was guess who? AC Milan in 89-90 and 90-91.

Your last paragraph is a joke. You base who you think will win based off bookies and who your favorite clubs are :|?

And your last paragraph makes me smile. :) I didn't based the prediction on whom i support, i just said "the once i support are actually the ones that the bookies put in front, aka MU and Barca". Like i said, i cannot recall a year, in which the team with the lowest coefficient after the group stage was a champion afterwards. (:/) I wish badly, that either MU or Barca wins, but i must admit the statistics speak against it..

Ok, Seville is decent and strong now, but like i said - they will need a lot to cover the semifinals success of a small team like Villareal, not to mention to win it. Yep, they won 2 UEFA Cup, but we all know the huge difference between those 2 competitions. Plus, you all can remember, that in some games in last year's UEFA Cup Seville were partially put forward with a "little help from my friends" (aka the referees), the games with Shahktar and Spurs to name a few. I like Seville, but you know, they are not the team to do it all over. Their only 2 significant european wins in last years were against Barcelona (European supercup) and Arsenal's reserves this year. All other games were not against opponents of the best quality (aka, MIlan, Inter, MU and type of teams). So, i would even doubt if Seville meets Arsenal again in the latter stages of CL they would win.. I guess they wouldn't...
Like you said, they have very solid squad, first year in CL now, stadium, fans, they will enroll and i wish them all the luck. But there's a small difference between real contender and someone who is going to turn soon into one.

Yep, you're right Milan won last time 2 years in a row, not CL, but EC.
Like i said, they're real huge team, but praxis shows that everyone is jumping strongly on the title holders. :D I mean, if you're the team that won the competition last year, your chances of winning it again are .. less than if you weren't. It's just this way.
Plus, MIlan has no one new in comparison to last year. Kiddy like Pato or Ronaldo-my-granddad just won't do. They will go through to quarters, semis with a bit of luck, but i don't see so many teams that would waste their opportunities against MIlan the way Benfica did in the Luz game, for example...
Also, a team that has no newcomers and fresh blood gets predictable, and i think this is Milan's problem now.

I would throw the teams into following pots according to their chances:

Lowest chance of winning: Fener, Schalke, Celtic, Olympiacos
Normal chance: Porto, Roma, Lyonnais
Good chances: Milan, Seville
Very good chances: Pool, RM, Inter, Arsenal, Chelsea
Biggest chance, according to bookies (i won't say "according to me", since it would sound very selfish): MU, Barca

Last but not least, what the numbers and statistics say is non sense, when not giving the word to the draw, and according to it's rules, Liverpool WILL draw someone in between Milan, Inter, Seville, RM, Barca, aka one very tough spanish or one very tough italian team... Interesting to see whether last year's final will repeat sooner this year..
 

newbie original

We apologize for keeping the yellow too long
Yellow Card
Well, after we scraped through again, I guess we shouldn;t complain no matter who we draw....although I can't say I'm looking forward to Dec 21.

Help?;2451940 said:
Yeah, look at Milan last year. Bunch of old guys and yet went from strength to strength. Although not caring too much about Serie A helped them big time too, but that's not to take anything away from them.

More than likely, the best team WILL NOT win the trophy. Had Man United not been playing for three trophies, it would have been a much closer tie and the end result would probably have been reversed. Milan were nowhere near the best team in Europe last year....just like Liverpool in 2005.

This is hardly, as the name suggests, a league competition..............
 

$teauA

Superstar
It would be boring if the team everyone expected to win ended up winning every single year. I like it when teams like Porto and Liverpool surprise everyone and win it all, that's why I think Sevilla has a really good chance. From what I've been reading and hearing form the so called specialists, they consider Sevilla one of the weaker sides left.
 

KingPaulV

Starting XI
well Sevilla are not doing so hot in La Liga, and yes, they have been somewhat impressive in Europe, but, consider that the strongest side they have played was Arsenal and when they played Arsenal at full strenght they got spanked 3-0.....they are capable IMO of sneaking into Quater finals, as long as they dont play the likes of Liverpool, Roma, or Lyon, I say they could maybe beat Schalke with a good return match and they should be able to get past Olympiakos and Fernebache
 

$teauA

Superstar
KingPaulV;2452857 said:
well Sevilla are not doing so hot in La Liga, and yes, they have been somewhat impressive in Europe, but, consider that the strongest side they have played was Arsenal and when they played Arsenal at full strenght they got spanked 3-0.....they are capable IMO of sneaking into Quater finals, as long as they dont play the likes of Liverpool, Roma, or Lyon, I say they could maybe beat Schalke with a good return match and they should be able to get past Olympiakos and Fernebache

And Liverpool lost to Marseille and Besiktas, and Chelsea drew at home with Rosenborg. Surprise results always happen in the group stage but it's a whole different game in the knock-out rounds. The level of focus and concentration goes way up. If Sevilla do get knocked out, I can guarantee it won't be in an easy fashion for the opponents.
 

ADC1987

Youth Team
All these Posts are so funny...

who expected that England wouldn't be in the Final Stage of the European Championship?

NOBODY!

But that's football. And all the Teams that are qualified for the knockout Round can win the competition. Nobody expected that Porto could win it in 2004.
But they done it!

And why not this year too? :-)
POOOOOOOORTO!
 


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