Computer & Video Games' UK FIFA 06 review - What a discrimination!!!

Gnidrologist

Youth Team
O'neill said:
We also need to be able to ignore stupid posts that arise to cause arguments. I feel its more fun to ignore them than comment.
Stupid or not, I feel it's a lot more fun not to ignore them. That's why forums like these are still worth visiting. :crazyboy:
EDIT: allright, the stupid part is.. well stupid, but the argument is always fun :)
 

Miki23

Club Supporter
thisempty said:
you guys gotta understand one thing.... 50% is ok for a FIFA game... what is not ok is 80%, 85%, etc, that the past FIFA got from alot of reviews.

I wont start the 1000000000000 fight between fifa and pes/we... but my opinion is that this is the best fifa ever... and it deserves 50%, because there's a football game called pes5.
If that game didn´t exist, then FIFA should be rated alot higher.


Mate, you completely missed the point of this thread with this post, and not to say that you lost any respect too with your comments!

Your argument is LAME my friend. If you say that this is best ever game in series, and that it deserves 50%, there's something wrong. You are either not a fan of football games or just said that for the sake of saying something. If that is the case I certainly don't know why do you bother coming to these forums.

Like I said at the first place, the point is, this is not about FIFA or PES, this is about discrimination of one game in which everything works fine; controls are fine, sound is great, graphics are fine, game play is fun; it has longetivity in a single and multiplayer mode, lot's of unlockables, and even some extra stuff, etc... It is really a good package. It has everything that you can whish from a computer game.

If we are going to be picky and "fair" we could give 50% to GTA San Andreas since the controls are not as good as they should, graphics is not top notch, there's a lot of bugs, jaggies etc..., sound is great, physics of cars and everything else is ridiculous, guns sound crappy, there are some very boring missions, no multiplayer, etc... and GTA SA becomes one of the GREATEST games of all times, praised like a God, and given 98%, 96% even 100%...

FIFA does suffer from few things but that's why it is FIFA (same as GTA SA suffers from few things), that's why it is a computer game and that's why it's not perfect and never will, and that's WHY it doesn't deserve 50%.


Take care!
 

Perth Glory

Senior Squad
Miki23- No. The point is : compared to what we have seen football games are capable of Fifa06 is an average attempt, little more.
 

thisempty

Youth Team
mapliopl said:
Maybe gameplay enhances to the overall game, but I doubt that if there were generic faces on all players, no sound on the crowd, only one stadium to play in, no night, afternoon game, etc... you would whine like a baby....

GAMEPLAY ALONE WILL NEVER MAKE A GAME PERFECT, you need the surrounding elements to be perfect as well...



yes, but thats not the case with PES/WE, is it?? Don't be so extreme man.
The faces aren't generic, there's sound on the crowd, more than one stadium, etc etc...
Graphics in PES/WE are much better than in FIFA.

I Didnt say people prefer to play tetris or pang instead of FIFA 2006....
I said that between two games were one has an overall better performance in stadiums, atmosphere, etc... and the other has much better gameplay, i certainly give more importance to the gameplay.

but EVEN if it were so extreme as you said:
"but I doubt that if there were generic faces on all players, no sound on the crowd, only one stadium to play in, no night, afternoon game, etc... you would whine like a baby...."
even if it was like that, i would still prefer PES, cause i almost always play with friends in PS2 or online in PC and we wouldnt give a **** about all that, cause its all about gameplay...
Let me give you one example:
playing online PES4, it lagged, so people put the resolution down to 640x480, no sounds, etc... and is still more enjoyable tham FIFA with everything top notch.

things you talk about are good... for 5 minutes, or for 1 day or 2...
after that you skipp animations, etc etc...... ITS THE GAMEPLAY MAN
 

thisempty

Youth Team
Miki23 said:
Mate, you completely missed the point of this thread with this post, and not to say that you lost any respect too with your comments!

respect from you? ok, im sad, but thats life :(


Miki23 said:
Your argument is LAME my friend. If you say that this is best ever game in series, and that it deserves 50%, there's something wrong. You are either not a fan of football games or just said that for the sake of saying something. If that is the case I certainly don't know why do you bother coming to these forums.

Oh, im a football fan, believe me... thats why i love pro evolution soccer.
And yes, this is the best FIFA, but i wouldnt give it more than 70% in a review

Miki23 said:
Like I said at the first place, the point is, this is not about FIFA or PES, this is about discrimination of one game in which everything works fine; controls are fine, sound is great, graphics are fine, game play is fun; it has longetivity in a single and multiplayer mode, lot's of unlockables, and even some extra stuff, etc... It is really a good package. It has everything that you can whish from a computer game.

Well, but that is YOUR oppinion... i dont think that everything works fine in that game as you say. If you dont agree with the review, thats fine... make your own, if you have a different opinion. But you can't say that the people who give 50% to FIFA do it cause they're not fans of football, dont deserve respect, etc. I can say the same thing about you just for saying that in FIFA everything works fine... you cant be a fan of football.(but that is MY opinion)

Miki23 said:
If we are going to be picky and "fair" we could give 50% to GTA San Andreas since the controls are not as good as they should, graphics is not top notch, there's a lot of bugs, jaggies etc..., sound is great, physics of cars and everything else is ridiculous, guns sound crappy, there are some very boring missions, no multiplayer, etc... and GTA SA becomes one of the GREATEST games of all times, praised like a God, and given 98%, 96% even 100%....

GTA is a game that have no other equal to compare to! Despite your opinion on that game (you say the controls arent good and so on) GTA has no competitors in its genre. FIFA has.

Miki23 said:
FIFA does suffer from few things but that's why it is FIFA (same as GTA SA suffers from few things), that's why it is a computer game and that's why it's not perfect and never will, and that's WHY it doesn't deserve 50%.

ok, thats your oppinion... and i wont trash talk to you as you have done to me cause of that.
And i really think that people who gives 50% to FIFA its cause they know what is PES, if they didnt they would give 80%, 90% to FIFA, cause there would be no other game to compare too.
 

thisempty

Youth Team
Billy1969 said:
Gameplay? Then go play Anco's Kick Off on your old XT

why? it has better gameplay than fifa?
i played alot of kick off in my Commodore Amiga, and i dont think it has better gameplay than FIFA
Besides, i have PES
But i remember a game that could give FIFA a hard time gameplaywise... Sensible Soccer...
lol
 

SYMO

Youth Team
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As boring as what most of you boys write, geez, cant you retards just stick to giving sum positive feedback of the game without always bitching which is best, FIFA this year is a much much much much better game, and i dont care what PES get on your knees and deepthroat KONAMI fanboys say, i like the game this year and there are plenty of positive things to say, the trouble is now FIFA'S rep precedes itself and it doesnt get a fair judgement, and b4 all you PES ass spreaders get on my back ive never bought a FIFA game coz they have all sucked as hard as you groupies do, but this year is a different story and no matter what anyone can dribble out my mind will NOT change on that, so try hard, talk **** and dream on, but ya wasting that precious breath youre gonna need with KONAMI's long john in ya gobs!!, half you tards talk as if FIFA isnt even worth mentioning, simply moronic, and definately biased 100%, say what you will but its so obvious, this year im getting FIFA and i know im gonna enjoy it, as far as reviews go, what do they really stand for, not much, usually its someones opinion, and remember sum people like country music, most people talk out their anus to defend their own tastes, and others hold their own opinion so sacred they are unwilling to be open minded to change................change is coming fanboys and you are the ones that will have to prostitute ya asses to another GOD!! pathetic. :brow:
 

thisempty

Youth Team
SYMO said:
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As boring as what most of you boys write, geez, cant you retards just stick to giving sum positive feedback of the game without always bitching which is best, FIFA this year is a much much much much better game, and i dont care what PES get on your knees and deepthroat KONAMI fanboys say, i like the game this year and there are plenty of positive things to say, the trouble is now FIFA'S rep precedes itself and it doesnt get a fair judgement, and b4 all you PES ass spreaders get on my back ive never bought a FIFA game coz they have all sucked as hard as you groupies do, but this year is a different story and no matter what anyone can dribble out my mind will NOT change on that, so try hard, talk **** and dream on, but ya wasting that precious breath youre gonna need with KONAMI's long john in ya gobs!!, half you tards talk as if FIFA isnt even worth mentioning, simply moronic, and definately biased 100%, say what you will but its so obvious, this year im getting FIFA and i know im gonna enjoy it, as far as reviews go, what do they really stand for, not much, usually its someones opinion, and remember sum people like country music, most people talk out their anus to defend their own tastes, and others hold their own opinion so sacred they are unwilling to be open minded to change................change is coming fanboys and you are the ones that will have to prostitute ya asses to another GOD!! pathetic. :brow:


lol
seems like you did what everybody else did, ah...retard
at least i gve my opinion... you trash talked people... but thats normal behind a pc monitor.
try hard what? dream on what? to change your mind??
FFS, do you really think i give a flying [email protected] for which game you buy? MUAHHAAHA
thats pathetic


ps-
SYMO said:
change is coming fanboys and you are the ones that will have to prostitute ya asses to another GOD!!

are you on drugs?
 

Hans

How big is YOUR penis?
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Reviews are means to guide you or give an idea of what a game would look like. If the guy rates it at 50 but you feel personally that the game is fun, then why bother ? He got his opinion, you got yours. Time to grow up and make your own decision, why does a review bothers you so much ? I don`t deny that I read reviews ( for games, movies, etc ), but I will definitely follow my decision no matter what the reviewer says.
 

LeBaNeSe_FoOl

Youth Team
Best thing would be for a person who doesnt give a **** about fifa and pes and just seriously sites down and rates the game from an overall perspective and not just give it a crappy rating because its name started with a Fifa and not a Pes like seriously sit down and give it a proper go with an open mind. If some dude just changed the names for instance instead of fifa 06 to Pes 5 then pes fans will all be talking about how great the new pes manager mode is and crowds menus etc. even though the gameplay wasnt as good but is pritty close they'll rate it a much higher game. They'll be like :Bow: wow how much effort did konami put in this year
 

Leftos

Youth Team
I have to heavily disagree with those that actually stated that 150 words are enough for a review. Most serious reviews take nearly 500 words, sometimes more.

180 words in a composition/letter/review was the top limit I had when I was still learning English and was 12 years old. That limit went to 220 for low and 300 for high, once I got to the Proficiency level of English.

This, my friends, is not a serious review. He doesn't even state clearly what his points are, he doesn't prove them, and he goes around to bash the game in a review that a 13 year old kid could write.

But I'll take his points one by one.

Player animations? There, I disagree. I like the animations much better than any other game, because the players actually feel like they're running (I don't like PES' running animations at all, just imho.)

First Touch? It's still something that I miss every time I play PES4 or 5 with my friends. Just a single move of the stick, and you've went past the defender, or have lost the ball and are up for a nice counter-attack by the opponent. Either when the player's receiving the ball or when he's with the ball on his feet, you can pull quite good stuff with First Touch. I, for one, use it all the time.

Ball Physics? I agree, they're not good, and I miss some realistic ball physics from the FIFA series. But just the arguments he uses to comment on the physics, make HIM look more ridiculous than the physics themselves.

So, there are my 2 cents on yet another review or comment on FIFA.

Ciao.
 

Miki23

Club Supporter
LeBaNeSe_FoOl said:
Best thing would be for a person who doesnt give a **** about fifa and pes and just seriously sites down and rates the game from an overall perspective and not just give it a crappy rating because its name started with a Fifa and not a Pes like seriously sit down and give it a proper go with an open mind. If some dude just changed the names for instance instead of fifa 06 to Pes 5 then pes fans will all be talking about how great the new pes manager mode is and crowds menus etc. even though the gameplay wasnt as good but is pritty close they'll rate it a much higher game. They'll be like :Bow: wow how much effort did konami put in this year

Finally someone who knows what he's talking about!

It's about being open minded and fair, not biased, wether it's called FIFA, PES, GTA or whatever.

"Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Reviews are means to guide you or give an idea of what a game would look like. If the guy rates it at 50 but you feel personally that the game is fun, then why bother ? He got his opinion, you got yours."

Difference is, just like you said, his oppinion is there to guide people in most cases before they buy/rent a game , unfortunately.

thisempty - say whatever you like, but you are a PES fan, and that's different from being a football fan, actually, football gaming fan. You base your oppinions on the name of the game, just like people from abovementioned site did. I don't mind if you give an honest and "credible" oppinion based on your experinece with the game, good on you for that, but your PES this, PES that, type of an oppinion is pathetic. I love PES, and it's definitely best football simulation, but PES fanboys are symply disgusting. I disliked FIFA from 2000 to 2004, but after 2005 and now 2006 you have to admit that the things are changing for good and 50% is just unacceptable.

"Oh, im a football fan, believe me... thats why i love pro evolution soccer.
And yes, this is the best FIFA, but i wouldnt give it more than 70% in a review."
"but my opinion is that this is the best fifa ever... and it deserves 50%, because there's a football game called pes5."

Check this out, and tell me nothing's wrong in your comments. Don't you think you are a bit hypocrite? 20% is a lot.
 

khseol

Youth Team
what are u guys arguing about?...fifa didnt get very good ratings from anyone really....so this is a non issue...maybe decent in some mags........but if you want to compare overall reviews for pes/we vs fifa ....we/pes has the higher ratings........no doubt........also i know alot of you guys here are from the usa.G4tv.com voted we/pes the best OVERALL sports game period.......so it seems fifa just realy is worse...but then i can see how it appeals to some people....as it isnt a compete pile of ****.....but pretty close :D in the end play what you enjoy........nothing wrong with that...but lets not deny truth either :)
 

mns

Senior Squad
I don't like PES, but i must say that FIfa 06 is the biggest piece of [email protected] i have ever seen from ea sports. Nice bling bling game with many features, but the gameplay is impossible, it is not realistic. How can the computer win all the tackles? You can play with ronaldinho and still lose the ball to a 2nd league defender, what's going on with the referee? I get red for a tackle from behind, the computer yellow. This game is not playable, too bad because the feeling is great.
 

Jomi

Reserve Team
mns said:
Nice bling bling game with many features, but the gameplay is impossible, it is not realistic.

The gameplay is very realistic. You just have to play with a lot of passing.
play with tempo, walk, make crossings, send payers on run...everything is there...
No more one or two passes and you shoot.
Change your way of playing. I like this midfield battle with no gaps between the lines
 


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