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Demo Impressions

Acorn

Club Supporter
First post but I have to agree with the whole "heavy" feeling in terms of gameplay, plus I was hoping that the AI in terms of Goalkeeping would be improved it seems it is actually is slower.
 

muahahahauz

Club Supporter
what is your problem????????


for everyone that think that barcelonas AI are impossible, or GK are unbeatable, i'll tell you how to fix it:

lower the difficulty ;)


what is the point to make a world class difficulty if you want it to be easy????


if you were good enough to beat the AI on world class with ease, you would be here complaining that the game is to easy and that EA should make world class level stronger.


put this in your mind: The world class difficulty(or the highest difficulty in any game) are made to be almost impossible, so experienced player can have some fun and challenge playing their games.
 

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
Diego_10;3112569 said:
LOL at the Impact engine glitches vid!!! The one from Arsenal kick-off is hilarious!

the impact engine is cheap copy of nhl 12's for console.

it has its pluses & minuses though, it make for player who dive seem as if they are diving but at the same time a lot of the players flopping are fouls the cpu never calls.

its quite annoying, i hope it all worked out for the final release.
ea has finally made a gem.
 

Diego_10

Club Supporter
regularcat;3112578 said:
the impact engine is cheap copy of nhl 12's for console.

it has its pluses & minuses though, it make for player who dive seem as if they are diving but at the same time a lot of the players flopping are fouls the cpu never calls.

its quite annoying, i hope it all worked out for the final release.
ea has finally made a gem.

Well I hope its polished on the game, cause sometimes none sense things happends.

Now, back to the game, the more I play it, the more I like it, it's because I'm getting used to it, I'm playing on professional level, and now I win matches by 3-0, 2-1 even came back from a 0-2 and won the game 3-2. My favorite team is Man. City they are a very strong team!
 

gibanica

Youth Team
muahahahauz;3112499 said:
what is your problem????????


for everyone that think that barcelonas AI are impossible, or GK are unbeatable, i'll tell you how to fix it:
lower the difficulty ;)
what is the point to make a world class difficulty if you want it to be easy????
if you were good enough to beat the AI on world class with ease, you would be here complaining that the game is to easy and that EA should make world class level stronger.

put this in your mind: The world class difficulty(or the highest difficulty in any game) are made to be almost impossible, so experienced player can have some fun and challenge playing their games.

pls noob give me a break ok? I know what am I talking abt
I ve played against man city (not even barcelona), and players behavior inst like in real match. modern football today is based on reception-passing game like, and I noticed that some midfield players making even 15-20 touches before pas the ball..and that s not a big problem if playerd doesnt have balance 85 and higher!
on legendary class I can handle it easily..but i repeat 75 and more passes during the AI attack (half of that on their own half) just killing the gameplay.
so the point is not to make game easy, but make AI focused on opponents goal.
ridicilous players diving for every contact makes me laugh as well.
I didnt change my question: how to uninstal FIFA12 DEMO
 

info0

Youth Team
Yup regular.

Many people doesn't know that FIFA gameplay engine is just a slightly modified NHL engine :).

Player Impact Engine and physics engine was made for NHL. It's not even well implemented in FIFA (anyone seen the ball glitch? When you pass the ball randomly... goes back to you!)

In NHL it makes perfect sense to have it as you can now... Shatter the glass with a player if you push him against it hard enough xD. Or break the stick on player head ^^.

In football game hmm, it looks nice on paper. Finally the fould would have brutallity in them, but... such feature must be tested for hours in and it shouldn't have ANY glitches/bugs.

Btw you would see mooooore glitches/bugs if you play 6/10 minute halves ;). Some bizarre things happen :D
 

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
info0;3112641 said:
Yup regular.

Many people doesn't know that FIFA gameplay engine is just a slightly modified NHL engine :).

Player Impact Engine and physics engine was made for NHL. It's not even well implemented in FIFA (anyone seen the ball glitch? When you pass the ball randomly... goes back to you!)

In NHL it makes perfect sense to have it as you can now... Shatter the glass with a player if you push him against it hard enough xD. Or break the stick on player head ^^.

In football game hmm, it looks nice on paper. Finally the fould would have brutallity in them, but... such feature must be tested for hours in and it shouldn't have ANY glitches/bugs.

Btw you would see mooooore glitches/bugs if you play 6/10 minute halves ;). Some bizarre things happen :D

i have nhl 12 for 360, its amazing, doesnt get any better.

if they use the physics engine for fifa, which they dont in full cause the physics engine in nhl is related to everything on the ice from players, puck, glass, nets, sticks & even the goalies water bottle.

fifa only uses it for players & they implemented it in the wrong manner.

if they get it right on full release this game will crush any fifa title & pes 6 hands down.
 

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
im actually starting to have different thoughts about this game.

while playing on legendary im starting to realize that i have given this game too much credit.

as said before tactical defending is officially a joke, regardless of what level you play on your defenders do nothing, whether it be tactical or completely stupid they do nothing.

the more & more i play the impact engine is becoming worse & worse, they arent demo issues they are just plain ****ty reactions to what goes on in game.

i guess maybe i was in awe of how the ai played & thought this is a good game, from the cpu ai & defending aspect its a great game, but from the human/ai aspect its complete trash, defenders just let players go by at full speed before they decide they want to start moving from a stand still, making chasing them 100% pointless.

i can go on for days w/ the bs i see in the human/ai tendencies & the way it works, i dont have the desire to edit ai anymore so to me the game needs to be fixed by full release or i have o give up on fifa.

& any other level of difficulty is a joke.
 

Waldo1639

Senior Squad
regularcat;3112927 said:
im actually starting to have different thoughts about this game.

while playing on legendary im starting to realize that i have given this game too much credit.

as said before tactical defending is officially a joke, regardless of what level you play on your defenders do nothing, whether it be tactical or completely stupid they do nothing.

the more & more i play the impact engine is becoming worse & worse, they arent demo issues they are just plain ****ty reactions to what goes on in game.

i guess maybe i was in awe of how the ai played & thought this is a good game, from the cpu ai & defending aspect its a great game, but from the human/ai aspect its complete trash, defenders just let players go by at full speed before they decide they want to start moving from a stand still, making chasing them 100% pointless.

i can go on for days w/ the bs i see in the human/ai tendencies & the way it works, i dont have the desire to edit ai anymore so to me the game needs to be fixed by full release or i have o give up on fifa.

& any other level of difficulty is a joke.
+1.
Exactly! First impression was great, but after more and more playing some things are coming into surface, and real face of FIFA 12 is not good. Again EA has pour cold water on us.
Maybe in full version there will be improvement... But we must be happy whit what we have...
 

info0

Youth Team
I can say, it may get fixed in a massive patch when game is released.

But atm if the final product doesn't meet your demands/needs you are validated to have a full refound (I have pre-ordered the game thinking it won't be a flop as FIFA 11 was great).

Hmm. Wondering what to do now. Have anyone seen random ball physics bug? (when you string 2, 3 or more passes and then you try to do LONG pass, the ball... can change trajectory mid way, go back few yards and... go to opposition player on the sideline out of the blue). If not I will try to record it. I am 100% certain IT won't be FIXED on full game release :/.

EDIT:

Ok, when selecting 3 min halves the glitches/bugs are less visible due to how fast game goes xD.

But setting it to 10 min halves or better yet 20 minutes makes World of difference :/. The bugfest, glitches galore! I could do a compilation like the one above in only 1 half of the match. O_o

I really hope it's very early demo build... If not... Pray@!
 

Erevos

Reserve Team
info0;3112959 said:
I can say, it may get fixed in a massive patch when game is released.

But atm if the final product doesn't meet your demands/needs you are validated to have a full refound (I have pre-ordered the game thinking it won't be a flop as FIFA 11 was great).

Hmm. Wondering what to do now. Have anyone seen random ball physics bug? (when you string 2, 3 or more passes and then you try to do LONG pass, the ball... can change trajectory mid way, go back few yards and... go to opposition player on the sideline out of the blue). If not I will try to record it. I am 100% certain IT won't be FIXED on full game release :/.

EDIT:

Ok, when selecting 3 min halves the glitches/bugs are less visible due to how fast game goes xD.

But setting it to 10 min halves or better yet 20 minutes makes World of difference :/. The bugfest, glitches galore! I could do a compilation like the one above in only 1 half of the match. O_o

I really hope it's very early demo build... If not... Pray@!

Im not glad that i was probably one of the first guys that saw many faults, Tactical Defence is unplayable, but since Legacy is there ok... pass speed terrible slow, players in the same team much too often are bump to each other, not enough support from teammates in attack and so on, but im optimistic since editing is fixing many problems and hopefuly full releace will fix the rest...

still EA should have been more carefull...
 

Chuny

Chairman
Staff member
Administrator
Super Moderator
Erevos;3113469 said:
Im not glad that i was probably one of the first guys that saw many faults, Tactical Defence is unplayable, but since Legacy is there ok... pass speed terrible slow, players in the same team much too often are bump to each other, not enough support from teammates in attack and so on, but im optimistic since editing is fixing many problems and hopefuly full releace will fix the rest...

still EA should have been more carefull...

Excuse me for being this ignorant but... WTF is "Legacy"?
 

smf_fede

Youth Team
Legacy is the defending mode quite similar to FIFA11, on exhibition, when u select options as assisted passes, crosses and so on, on the bottom u can choose defensive style, use legacy to defend as Fifa11, it's less efective on tackles but u can cover better the empty spaces, and with time it's way better that lame tactical defense.
 

lordtom

Youth Team
Erevos;3113469 said:
Im not glad that i was probably one of the first guys that saw many faults, Tactical Defence is unplayable, but since Legacy is there ok... pass speed terrible slow, players in the same team much too often are bump to each other, not enough support from teammates in attack and so on, but im optimistic since editing is fixing many problems and hopefuly full releace will fix the rest...

still EA should have been more carefull...


+1
 


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