[DOWNLOAD] Classic Patch 14

jeymer

Club Supporter
Actualizado en consecuencia a la versión 3.3.
+ 96 equipos;
+ 2 palos;
+ Corrección de la hoja 'League NT' (Copa Internacional);
+ renombrado el nombre del club Artmedia Petrzalka al actual FC Petrzalka.

I was checking the database it's pretty good but you left out a great team Ferenváros T.C from the 45-50's that won a few championships and has the 4 greatest scorer of all time Ferenc Deák.

 

V.K

Starting XI
I have currently removed 266 specifcadboards for the top leagues teams and inserted 210 specificadboards for the new leagues for the whole period 1989-2010
All UCL balls from 1998-99 to 2009-10 have been set with REVMOD for UCL only. From today and in the future it will be possible to set another ball different from the UCL one currently present in the database.
Quick question about graphics, maybe @GIGGIRIVA or someone else can clarify: is the focus of CP14 switching from the best teams from each season (UCL and top UEL) now to just top leagues season by season?

With the current system we have: we can have 1 adboard, 1 ball, 1 kitoverlay, 1 specificwipe assigned for the whole "league" (e.g. UCL 2009-10), very efficient - so where did the 266 specificadboards come from?

With the new system we are going to have to assign a team-specific-adboard, ball, kitoverlay, etc for every single team in the patch, if we want to play a UCL friendly game between Barcelona 09-10 and Man Utd 09-10 because these will now be in different "leagues" (i.e. Spain 2009-10 and England 2009-10).
That means: specificball (ucl 09-10) for Barca 09-10, specificadboard (ucl 09-10) for Barca 09-10, etc.

Or do we now focus on domestic leagues, so the Spain 2009-10 "league" will only have 1 adboard (generic La Liga 2009-10 season) assigned?
In that case, I know I know, some people won't care, but 1 generic adboard for the whole league will not look anywhere good enough (Barca 09-10 will need Nike, Estrella, Unicef adboards and Real madrid 2009-10 will need adidas, Bwin, FIFA 10 adboards, etc).

And then in this case we can no longer play friendlies with correct UCL graphics for each season like we do now - something I've personally done almost exclusively to this point.

Besides, and I know @GIGGIRIVA you personally are not a fan, but does this plan include full leagues recreation up to 2010? Teams like Charleton 2004 or Osasuna 2005 - do we really have enough recources to recreate that all?

And in that case, will "leagues" like Russia 2006-07 only have 1 team for example?


If I understand this correctly, the alternative right now for people who like UCL "by default" is to stay on the current version of CP14.
Especially for those who focus on post-2000 content, if, again given that I understant this correctly, full leagues for 2000s are not planned at all for the nearest future.

I would like to invite @Jbou41 @valambrosio2 to share their thoughts as well.
Maybe I'm just missing some genius trick here :)
 
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GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Quick question about graphics, maybe @GIGGIRIVA or someone else can clarify: is the focus of CP14 switching from the best teams from each season (UCL and top UEL) now to just top leagues season by season?

With the current system we have: we can have 1 adboard, 1 ball, 1 kitoverlay, 1 specificwipe assigned for the whole "league" (e.g. UCL 2009-10), very efficient - so where did the 266 specificadboards come from?

With the new system we are going to have to assign a team-specific-adboard, ball, kitoverlay, etc for every single team in the patch, if we want to play a UCL friendly game between Barcelona 09-10 and Man Utd 09-10 because these will now be in different "leagues" (i.e. Spain 2009-10 and England 2009-10).
That means: specificball (ucl 09-10) for Barca 09-10, specificadboard (ucl 09-10) for Barca 09-10, etc.

Or do we now focus on domestic leagues, so the Spain 2009-10 "league" will only have 1 adboard (generic La Liga 2009-10 season) assigned?
In that case, I know I know, some people won't care, but 1 generic adboard for the whole league will not look anywhere good enough (Barca 09-10 will need Nike, Estrella, Unicef adboards and Real madrid 2009-10 will need adidas, Bwin, FIFA 10 adboards, etc).

And then in this case we can no longer play friendlies with correct UCL graphics for each season like we do now - something I've personally done almost exclusively to this point.

Besides, and I know @GIGGIRIVA you personally are not a fan, but does this plan include full leagues recreation up to 2010? Teams like Charleton 2004 or Osasuna 2005 - do we really have enough recources to recreate that all?

And in that case, will "leagues" like Russia 2006-07 only have 1 team for example?


If I understand this correctly, the alternative right now for people who like UCL "by default" is to stay on the current version of CP14.
Especially for those who focus on post-2000 content, if, again given that I understant this correctly, full leagues for 2000s are not planned at all for the nearest future.

I would like to invite @Jbou41 @valambrosio2 to share their thoughts as well.
Maybe I'm just missing some genius trick here :)
In the version you have, teams from each nation are in the same league. So the German teams to differentiate the adbords from the Italian or the Greek one I must have it specific to the team. Each team in his adboards. In this new system I save space in memory.

If you want to play UCL, you play UCL. I am basing myself as the default FIFA where as a general setting there are also the championships in friendly matches.

That's right now all Spanish teams will have a single adbords for the whole league. The patch already weighs 80GB, I can't think of the obsessive detail. As said at other times, I don't care about the obsessive detail. I'm not interested in specific team adboards and things that are of little consequence to me.

I am no longer interested in having UCL as a supporting graphic for clubs. That phase is over, now we are expanding and making those teams useful for any kind of tournament (championship, fantasy, cup). The era of UCL alone is over.

As said other times. I don't work openly on the 2000s but I'm leaving it open to building those leagues with lots of tournaments already created, trophies awarded and everything ready. Slowly whoever wants to make the teams I will add them but for me they have "priority 0". Like you handed me City 209-10. That will be integrated into Premier 09-10 and will increase the tournament by one team in the DLC.

The teams that are not part of those 5 leagues (therefore Russian, Ukrainian, Turkish, Swedish, Dutch ...) are in the current old league which become a sort of Rest of the World.

Those who love UCL as their main competition will make the graphics changes to have them as their main graphics. I'm not interested in having that kind of graphics as the main one. It's not a problem for me. But in the classic UCL is no longer the main tournament ... but just a tournament like any other that should not be prioritized.
 

adams06

Club Supporter
Sorry because of this question.
Is it possible to recreate ball model of 'Mitre Premier League' ball and old Mitre balls to be more spherical?
Now is like hard edge tiles composed into ball..
 
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MadbaLL

Club Supporter
I have currently removed 266 specifcadboards for the top leagues teams and inserted 210 specificadboards for the new leagues for the whole period 1989-2010 The number is obviously similar because we currently have only two teams in many leagues. therefore the ratio between eliminated files (2 teams, 2 adboards) is the same and the added one (1 league, 2 adboards) Leagues, such as Serie A, which are instead complete, have had a totally different ratio of numbers. 18 files deleted and only 2 added. The good thing is that any team added in the future in the 5 leagues in question in this period will not need to set up the adboards ... it's already done. While the teams that are not part of those 5 leagues (holland, belgium, portugal, turkey, greece and so on) will keep their specific boards set on the team.

i also hope duplicate, wrong (kits with wrong model/design) and kits without numbers will also be removed for 4.0, since there are many club teams with mentioned issue. i assume some test or beta kits ended up in the patch somehow.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
i also hope duplicate, wrong (kits with wrong model/design) and kits without numbers will also be removed for 4.0, since there are many club teams with mentioned issue. i assume some test or beta kits ended up in the patch somehow.
I have never encountered problems of this kind. I checked the inter you reported to me and did not notice anything strange. Not to mention that both ACICOG and Tomasoni are Inter fans and on the Inter they also check the hairs of the asshole of the third goalkeeper XD
 

DeWoo

Club Supporter
I have never encountered problems of this kind. I checked the inter you reported to me and did not notice anything strange. Not to mention that both ACICOG and Tomasoni are Inter fans and on the Inter they also check the hairs of the asshole of the third goalkeeper XD
He is right. I saw some missing numbers, white font numbers and names on white kits etc., but I don't want to provide mess right now as that could changed through last few updates I didn't install :D

Giggi, one more topic regarding club leagues number within one decade db.

If I count accurately, now we have
10 combined teams leagues per each season + 2 x 5-year teams leagues, what gives us 12.

In v4.0 when new system will be applied we get:
5 top leagues x 10 separate seasons + 10 seasons of "Rest of World" leagues +possibly 2 x 5-year teams leagues (until removal/replacement for single year teams) what gives us approximately 60-62 leagues?

12 vs 60+ for one decade? I don't remember, what is the limit. Can you remind me?

I know you will say you don't care of our personal modifications of db as it's not your business. However, I focus on merging few db into one as I want to play 1970s-2000s randomly and I don't like to change db every time I decide to change teams for friendly match.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
He is right. I saw some missing numbers, white font numbers and names on white kits etc., but I don't want to provide mess right now as that could changed through last few updates I didn't install :D

Giggi, one more topic regarding club leagues number within one decade db.

If I count accurately, now we have
10 combined teams leagues per each season + 2 x 5-year teams leagues, what gives us 12.

In v4.0 when new system will be applied we get:
5 top leagues x 10 separate seasons + 10 seasons of "Rest of World" leagues +possibly 2 x 5-year teams leagues (until removal/replacement for single year teams) what gives us approximately 60-62 leagues?

12 vs 60+ for one decade? I don't remember, what is the limit. Can you remind me?

I know you will say you don't care of our personal modifications of db as it's not your business. However, I focus on merging few db into one as I want to play 1970s-2000s randomly and I don't like to change db every time I decide to change teams for friendly match.
I've never seen missing fonts ...

European 5-year teams have been downsized into friendly teams. The mega tournament is gone and they will slowly be eliminated. At least until 1990. Then we will see the evolution of the patch, of the various limits. For now the teams from 1990-95 will be slowly eliminated and converted into 1 year teams. I said that long ago.

In the future, club tournaments will be national leagues and UCL (I have shown numerous screenshots about it). However, I repeat this too. It is not my intention to recreate all the top 5 European leagues. I'm not that crazy. I want to remake Serie A and in the same way I decided to give the same opportunity to others to enter teams from other leagues and try to recreate entire seasons.

At the same time, this system streamlines the search for menu teams compared to the current version. Currently To go and look for Manchester United or Napoli you have to scroll through several
teams of the same season. With 4.0 you have a faster and less boring choice than the team search because Manchster is in the English league where at most there are 20-22 teams and not 50-60-100 teams that could be part of the same league season as in the version. current.

The limit is around 2400-2500 teams per database. So the more stuff you add, the less chance there is of merging the various databases. I split them for this reason, so as not to have to redo all the work as the patch grows.

However, I will work on the patch until I have reached every database limit, as long as the health is there, and with the hope of not going to war since I have been a soldier for quite a few years. So the current decades may still be split in other parts. But I still don't know ... I don't foresee the future.
 

MadbaLL

Club Supporter
I have never encountered problems of this kind. I checked the inter you reported to me and did not notice anything strange. Not to mention that both ACICOG and Tomasoni are Inter fans and on the Inter they also check the hairs of the asshole of the third goalkeeper XD

i have encountered mentioned issue with various teams in 2000s databases, but two examples i remember since i'm an inter fan are as follows:

1. inter 2001/2002 - two same alternate jerseys with wrong collar;

2. inter 2003/2004 - two same alternate jerseys without numbers;
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
i have encountered mentioned issue with various teams in 2000s databases, but two examples i remember since i'm an inter fan are as follows:

1. inter 2001/2002 - two same alternate jerseys with wrong collar;

2. inter 2003/2004 - two same alternate jerseys without numbers;
I have no duplicates on these teams. And then how does the font of the inter 2003-04 go missing if the font 12 is the default of the game?
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
i have encountered mentioned issue with various teams in 2000s databases, but two examples i remember since i'm an inter fan are as follows:

1. inter 2001/2002 - two same alternate jerseys with wrong collar;

2. inter 2003/2004 - two same alternate jerseys without numbers;
ah yes, now I remember ... it's a weird database bug. The two kits do not always appear on the cm. If you remove a "duplicate" you also remove the graphics from the other good. Two slots on the database are connected on one kit. The solution would be to completely eliminate the shirt. But it doesn't seem like a drama to have a fake double on the menu. The game is not made to have many shirts per team.
 


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