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GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
You are not interested in editing 2000s and it is fully understood and respected. You might not be a big fan of 2000s and it is fully respected. You were born few years earlier than me. But... So many great players played or even had their best career years in 2000s including a lot of Italian stars. Italian teams winning UCL, Italian national team winning 2006 WC. I know "Calciopoli" cannot be forgotten. Anyway, for me 2000s was still decade that gave us a lot of emotions and great memories. I can't believe how much you hate it :)
It is not a question of victories or champions. Each era has its champions. But the football of the last 15-20 has become shit. Purely shit. It makes me sick. It's not just a question of scandals. I don't like anything. Footballers have become money-stuffed pussies thinking of selfies and tattoos, sometimes clowns, and often mercenaries. Look at the bullshit Antony did. The unnecessary pirouettes were not even at the Bolshoi and then missed the through ball which was certainly not difficult to do. He's a jerk with a certificate! 20-year-old boys who have full power over the club (Mbappe). Cristiano Ronaldo, who is 37 years old, wants to be the first woman and throws a tantrum not even he was a child, disrespecting his teammates and fans. The game has become extremely tactical, boring. You already know where the ball goes after a few passes. There is talk of capital gains, debts, capital increases, financial fair play, share capital. That is not football and yet all the newspapers and TVs are obsessed with this aspect. And then you leave at all hours, every day. What balls! You used to wait for the day of the game, you were looking for someone to see or hear the game with. Now you watch the game sitting in the toilet! What's great about today's football? NOTHING! Absolutely nothing! I hope all the teams implode in debt and go bankrupt. All, including my Cagliari. Only by starting from scratch can we start again for what football was, that is sport. Now it is no longer sport. It's business. I like sports, not business. and I didn't talk about the world championship bullshit in Qatar ...
 

DeWoo

Club Supporter
It is not a question of victories or champions. Each era has its champions. But the football of the last 15-20 has become shit. Purely shit. It makes me sick. It's not just a question of scandals. I don't like anything. Footballers have become money-stuffed pussies thinking of selfies and tattoos, sometimes clowns, and often mercenaries. Look at the bullshit Antony did. The unnecessary pirouettes were not even at the Bolshoi and then missed the through ball which was certainly not difficult to do. He's a jerk with a certificate! 20-year-old boys who have full power over the club (Mbappe). Cristiano Ronaldo, who is 37 years old, wants to be the first woman and throws a tantrum not even he was a child, disrespecting his teammates and fans. The game has become extremely tactical, boring. You already know where the ball goes after a few passes. There is talk of capital gains, debts, capital increases, financial fair play, share capital. That is not football and yet all the newspapers and TVs are obsessed with this aspect. And then you leave at all hours, every day. What balls! You used to wait for the day of the game, you were looking for someone to see or hear the game with. Now you watch the game sitting in the toilet! What's great about today's football? NOTHING! Absolutely nothing! I hope all the teams implode in debt and go bankrupt. All, including my Cagliari. Only by starting from scratch can we start again for what football was, that is sport. Now it is no longer sport. It's business. I like sports, not business. and I didn't talk about the world championship bullshit in Qatar ...
I fully agree to above, but I would refer this strongly to past 2010 football era. In 2000s many players from 90s were still leaders in their teams and discipline with appropriate atmosphere was still kept in the locker rooms I think, but that's my opinion only.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
I fully agree to above, but I would refer this strongly to past 2010 football era. In 2000s many players from 90s were still leaders in their teams and discipline with appropriate atmosphere was still kept in the locker rooms I think, but that's my opinion only.
You can have a wonderful garden with rare and fragrant flowers. But the moment your sewer breaks you know that even those rare and fragrant flowers now smell like sewer. The same thing in football. Even the strongest and most beautiful players to behold being in a harmful environment are no longer able to appreciate them.
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
It is not a question of victories or champions. Each era has its champions. But the football of the last 15-20 has become shit. Purely shit. It makes me sick. It's not just a question of scandals. I don't like anything. Footballers have become money-stuffed pussies thinking of selfies and tattoos, sometimes clowns, and often mercenaries. Look at the bullshit Antony did. The unnecessary pirouettes were not even at the Bolshoi and then missed the through ball which was certainly not difficult to do. He's a jerk with a certificate! 20-year-old boys who have full power over the club (Mbappe). Cristiano Ronaldo, who is 37 years old, wants to be the first woman and throws a tantrum not even he was a child, disrespecting his teammates and fans. The game has become extremely tactical, boring. You already know where the ball goes after a few passes. There is talk of capital gains, debts, capital increases, financial fair play, share capital. That is not football and yet all the newspapers and TVs are obsessed with this aspect. And then you leave at all hours, every day. What balls! You used to wait for the day of the game, you were looking for someone to see or hear the game with. Now you watch the game sitting in the toilet! What's great about today's football? NOTHING! Absolutely nothing! I hope all the teams implode in debt and go bankrupt. All, including my Cagliari. Only by starting from scratch can we start again for what football was, that is sport. Now it is no longer sport. It's business. I like sports, not business. and I didn't talk about the world championship bullshit in Qatar ...
I can only say everything is fine until you don't forbid us to feel joy.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
I can only say everything is fine until you don't forbid us to feel joy.
But I certainly can't be responsible for your joy in football. Also because your joy corresponds to my sadness (in football). You all know that the decade of 2000 was a concession that I made. But as said at other times you cannot expect me to love it. Whether you like that era or not, I don't care, it's none of my business.
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
But I certainly can't be responsible for your joy in football. Also because your joy corresponds to my sadness (in football). You all know that the decade of 2000 was a concession that I made. But as said at other times you cannot expect me to love it. Whether you like that era or not, I don't care, it's none of my business.
Nobody forces you to like it. It's still great that you're with us despite that, because I think you're not alone in that mindset, but many such people just stopped caring a long time ago and started another hobbies. I just say it's fine until you start to disregard people seeing value that you do not see in it. Everyone is responsible for yourself, but this responsibility is also self-control.

Anyway I don't to start another 2-hour topic. I just wonder, as you said some time ago, that after ending 2000s, the focus will go to pre-war era and I keep a thumbs up for it, because it's pretty much terra incognita for me.
 
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GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Nobody forces you to like it. It's still great that you're with us despite that, because I think you're not alone, but many such people just stopped caring a long time ago and started another hobbies. I just say it's fine until you start to disregard people seeing value that you do not see in it. Everyone is responsible for yourself, but this responsibility is also self-control.

Anyway I don't to start another 2-hour topic. I just wonder, as you said some thime ago, that after ending 2000s, the focus will go to pre-war era and I keep a thumbs up for it, because it's pretty much terra incognita for me.
But I think I'm free to say if I don't like something. Especially when I repeat the same things and no one seems to listen to me. I look like Don Quixote with windmills. I'm tired of saying the same things too. Just don't stress me out asking for 2000s stuff anymore. It's a lot simpler than it sounds.

However, I know that one thing has not been understood. I didn't say that I stop adding 2000s stuff. I said that I have no reason to want to start projects related to this era. You won't see me adding teams or making kits from this era directly. This for me means active editing. As for this era, I will add what comes from the CMPs or from the jerseys that ACICOG will make. (Today he handed me the betis 04-05 kits and I am sure I add them) Obviously the top 5 European championships will have more interest in the 2000 period. So I will do passive editing, without a goal, without goals.

I will focus on the rest of football history. 1870-1999. Now I care about finishing the 90's Serie A for various reasons. The main one because it is the one that is graphically more complex, more weighted. So, after the 90s, I will have a downhill job when I slowly create the 80s teams and even more downhill with the 30-40-50-60-70 base jerseys. Let's say that doing the 90s is like climbing everest. So there is a mental reason too. Mental in the sense that if I made it through that decade then I can do them all. A kind of mental step that is bypassed. First I posted a huge list of teams first. That's the basic single season team plan. My goal is to try to turn as many red teams into yellow as possible. For now I have drawn it from 1950-51 So also recreate the Latin Cup. I am interested in doing the period 1870-1909. I'd like to recreate the complete first English championship of 1888-89. The early FA Cup finalists. Theoretically we have in mind the Copa America from 1916 to 1989. In the 90's there is a question of complex kits and I don't feel like going out of balance. I have a lot to do on a football that I love for that I can no longer waste time planning something for a football that I don't like. I left the guideline to make the top 5 leagues until 2031. In 4.0 there are pre-created tournaments that just need to be expanded as the teams arrive until 2009-10.
 

Skoczek

Fan Favourite
But I think I'm free to say if I don't like something. Especially when I repeat the same things and no one seems to listen to me. I look like Don Quixote with windmills. I'm tired of saying the same things too. Just don't stress me out asking for 2000s stuff anymore. It's a lot simpler than it sounds.

However, I know that one thing has not been understood. I didn't say that I stop adding 2000s stuff. I said that I have no reason to want to start projects related to this era. You won't see me adding teams or making kits from this era directly. This for me means active editing. As for this era, I will add what comes from the CMPs or from the jerseys that ACICOG will make. (Today he handed me the betis 04-05 kits and I am sure I add them) Obviously the top 5 European championships will have more interest in the 2000 period. So I will do passive editing, without a goal, without goals.

I will focus on the rest of football history. 1870-1999. Now I care about finishing the 90's Serie A for various reasons. The main one because it is the one that is graphically more complex, more weighted. So, after the 90s, I will have a downhill job when I slowly create the 80s teams and even more downhill with the 30-40-50-60-70 base jerseys. Let's say that doing the 90s is like climbing everest. So there is a mental reason too. Mental in the sense that if I made it through that decade then I can do them all. A kind of mental step that is bypassed. First I posted a huge list of teams first. That's the basic single season team plan. My goal is to try to turn as many red teams into yellow as possible. For now I have drawn it from 1950-51 So also recreate the Latin Cup. I am interested in doing the period 1870-1909. I'd like to recreate the complete first English championship of 1888-89. The early FA Cup finalists. Theoretically we have in mind the Copa America from 1916 to 1989. In the 90's there is a question of complex kits and I don't feel like going out of balance. I have a lot to do on a football that I love for that I can no longer waste time planning something for a football that I don't like. I left the guideline to make the top 5 leagues until 2031. In 4.0 there are pre-created tournaments that just need to be expanded as the teams arrive until 2009-10.
I hope we're all set up and look forward for the future...or rather for the past
 

DeWoo

Club Supporter
But I think I'm free to say if I don't like something. Especially when I repeat the same things and no one seems to listen to me. I look like Don Quixote with windmills. I'm tired of saying the same things too. Just don't stress me out asking for 2000s stuff anymore. It's a lot simpler than it sounds.

However, I know that one thing has not been understood. I didn't say that I stop adding 2000s stuff. I said that I have no reason to want to start projects related to this era. You won't see me adding teams or making kits from this era directly. This for me means active editing. As for this era, I will add what comes from the CMPs or from the jerseys that ACICOG will make. (Today he handed me the betis 04-05 kits and I am sure I add them) Obviously the top 5 European championships will have more interest in the 2000 period. So I will do passive editing, without a goal, without goals.

I will focus on the rest of football history. 1870-1999. Now I care about finishing the 90's Serie A for various reasons. The main one because it is the one that is graphically more complex, more weighted. So, after the 90s, I will have a downhill job when I slowly create the 80s teams and even more downhill with the 30-40-50-60-70 base jerseys. Let's say that doing the 90s is like climbing everest. So there is a mental reason too. Mental in the sense that if I made it through that decade then I can do them all. A kind of mental step that is bypassed. First I posted a huge list of teams first. That's the basic single season team plan. My goal is to try to turn as many red teams into yellow as possible. For now I have drawn it from 1950-51 So also recreate the Latin Cup. I am interested in doing the period 1870-1909. I'd like to recreate the complete first English championship of 1888-89. The early FA Cup finalists. Theoretically we have in mind the Copa America from 1916 to 1989. In the 90's there is a question of complex kits and I don't feel like going out of balance. I have a lot to do on a football that I love for that I can no longer waste time planning something for a football that I don't like. I left the guideline to make the top 5 leagues until 2031. In 4.0 there are pre-created tournaments that just need to be expanded as the teams arrive until 2009-10.
It's ok :) No need to be angry. My question had nothing in common with adding more 2000s staff. There is much more I even expected year or two years ago. It was only curiosity of so much hate for 2000s football. I wanted to understand why you see only negatives while this decade (or at least time to WC 2006) was full of great and spectacular goals, memories. There was no intention to convince you to like it. You have your own feelings and focus and I wanted to know it better than before ;)
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
It's ok :) No need to be angry. My question had nothing in common with adding more 2000s staff. There is much more I even expected year or two years ago. It was only curiosity of so much hate for 2000s football. I wanted to understand why you see only negatives while this decade (or at least time to WC 2006) was full of great and spectacular goals, memories. There was no intention to convince you to like it. You have your own feelings and focus and I wanted to know it better than before ;)
Because every time I think about 90s football, only one sentence comes to mind ... "What did you miss?" The beauty is that I'm not the only one. On Facebook it is full of groups where videos and photos from past years are posted. A lot of people ban you if you put on 2000s stuff. So there are people much more extremist than me towards that football. During the quarantine, with the leagues locked, there was a page that posted full games from past years, all pre 2000. Views skyrocketing! It means that many regret and want that football back. on that page I saw the entire 1954 World Cup final in color and restored! I was ecstatic! Then they took it off because it seems they violated some rights ... There were more comments under the "live" match of the 1994 Champions League final than on any match today. If you go for 40 like me it is normal to feel hatred for a toy that is broken. Because yes, the football toy is broken. You feel hatred because you know you have reached the perfection between quality, price, waiting for an event. It was all very well balanced. Then the TV money came and they killed football. In Italy we all hate the "spezzatino football" that is football in which a football day is divided into several days at several times. Nobody likes it. In England it is the norm in Italy not. For 70-80 years we have had all but one match at the same time, on the same day. It was wonderful because on the radio you could listen to all the matches together, on the TV there were programs that were entertainment containers with a more or less football background where they updated you on every goal. Now you can no longer do this if they play 1-2 games and not 7-8 games at that particular time. There was "cup Wednesday." In Italy it was sacred. You were waiting for that day to feast and see teams and players you didn't know for European cup matches. Now you have to pay to see a possibly poor match with Norwegian or Icelandic teams. Before for free you got all the matches of the Italian teams. A show. Then the prices. I'll give you an example of a small thing. The Panini stickers. In 1998 a package cost 500 lire (25 cents, considering the current inflation they are about 45-50 euro cents). Now a package costs 1 euro and there is also a card less XD So imagine when it can cost everything else related to football.
 

Bruno Passarelli

Youth Team
WC 2022 venues were the only missing piece from the stadiums pack! Thanks, Bruno Passarelli!

I will be the last person to critisize any stadium since I can't do them myself at all, but is there something dark going on with the lighting here?
I am not an expert on lightings as well, but I noticed that happens in domes when played at daylight.
 

chesfunk

Youth Team
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Can you tell me the reason why the hair color is dark black in the game?
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
DLC 90: Two victory points awarded for tournaments and championships that used this criterion. So, for example, the 1992-93 Serie A will have two points per victory while the 1995-96 one will have three points. The same for all the other leagues, the Champions League, World Cup, European Championship ... throughout the decade

DLC 80: Awarded three points per victory for all the English First Division from 1981-82.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
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Can you tell me the reason why the hair color is dark black in the game?
it usually happens when the face is not active on the database. But it seems to me that this player has an active face. When a face does not have the check in certain faces, the hair colors become darker or lighter. Blond players turn red, almost orange. The browns, on the other hand, are almost black.
 


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