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Election 2004 Prediction Thread
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Originally posted by Vagegast
Ya can't vote three times ElderWhat do you think this is, a presidential election?
Ya forgot ShiftyPowers and Flyer, the other American conservatives here.
Anyway, even tho I am of voting age, I'm not voting in this election, although earlier this year I was planning to. Why? I feel like I am voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush and Kerry have basically the same ideas, with only minor differences. Plus, I live in a state that is dominated by one party, so that pretty much limits the options. Lastly, I feel that no matter what, the efforts of the Democrats to get out the vote among the youth won't matter, as Bush will get re-elected, and the GOP will gain more seats in the House and Senate.
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man just don't give up, if you have a chance of contributing for that monkey to be thrown out of the power, you should take it. Every vote matters.
Originally posted by Avalanche1996
Ya forgot ShiftyPowers and Flyer, the other American conservatives here.
Anyway, even tho I am of voting age, I'm not voting in this election, although earlier this year I was planning to. Why? I feel like I am voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush and Kerry have basically the same ideas, with only minor differences. Plus, I live in a state that is dominated by one party, so that pretty much limits the options. Lastly, I feel that no matter what, the efforts of the Democrats to get out the vote among the youth won't matter, as Bush will get re-elected, and the GOP will gain more seats in the House and Senate.
Go vote third party, no matter who it's for. The higher amount of votes for the 3rd party, the better chance they have to get on ballots and debates in the future.
xxxFLYERxxx
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Originally posted by Avalanche1996
Ya forgot ShiftyPowers and Flyer, the other American conservatives here.
Anyway, even tho I am of voting age, I'm not voting in this election, although earlier this year I was planning to. Why? I feel like I am voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush and Kerry have basically the same ideas, with only minor differences. Plus, I live in a state that is dominated by one party, so that pretty much limits the options. Lastly, I feel that no matter what, the efforts of the Democrats to get out the vote among the youth won't matter, as Bush will get re-elected, and the GOP will gain more seats in the House and Senate.
I never said im voting for Bush.
I never said that im voting for Kerry either.
Brondbyfan
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Elder, how could the weapons have been taken by looters in April 2003, by Saddam in Summer 2002, AND by the Russians (*snicker*) in March of 2003? How is this is the fault of the troops, as Giuliani says? Doesn't make a damned bit of sense. Certainly all of those explanations have been shot down as soon as they pop up. The point is that when someone gives you a whole bunch of false explanations and keeps changing their story, odds are good you're not going to magically get the truth the third or fourth or fifth time. And the original story most CERTAINLY has not been dubunked, especially since videotape from an ABC affiliate shows what appears to be the explosives there (David Kay confirmed it). Nice to know where you get your information from though, since Sean Hannity told the same lie about the story being debunked.
xxxFLYERxxx
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I dont know.
I just might not vote, I hate this election.
I just might not vote, I hate this election.
USA Supporter
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I wish I was a year older so I could vote. I would vote for Badnarik.
But if I had to pick between Kerry and Bush, I would definitely go with Kerry. Four years ago, Bush made himself look like a moderate. He has proven in four years that he is no where near the center. I had no problems with him going into Afghanistan (and I don't think many people here had a problem with that either), and I wasn't even against the war in Iraq. However, he sucks on social issues and I think the war on Iraq wasn't planned out all that well.
But if I had to pick between Kerry and Bush, I would definitely go with Kerry. Four years ago, Bush made himself look like a moderate. He has proven in four years that he is no where near the center. I had no problems with him going into Afghanistan (and I don't think many people here had a problem with that either), and I wasn't even against the war in Iraq. However, he sucks on social issues and I think the war on Iraq wasn't planned out all that well.
What I am saying is that there is alot more to this story than the simplistic view that you take. That view is "Bush is evil, I hump Kerry, and any negative story about Bush is what I will believe."
Just on this story alone there are at least 5 different explanations being floated around.
1. The IAEA, through the UN is trying to influence a US election.
2. The weapons were taken away by Saddam before the war started... there are pictures from the Pentagon to give this theory weight.
3. Looters did take them because of faulty US protection.
4. The Army destroyed them as one person has stated.
5. There were only about 3 tons there in the first place.
That doesn't include the assertion that the Russian may have had a hand in it, etc. etc. etc.
The big difference between you and I is that I see ALL of these different views being floated around and don't know which one is true. You see all of these stories and pick out the ONE, number 3, that helps you make an argument that Bush is incompetent. You have no idea what actually happened, and even the Kerry campaign has said as much.
He is responsible for the biggest swelling of the government in years... from things such as farm aid packages, more money for education, welfare in the form of prescription drugs, etc. etc... he hasn't been a conservative, so I think you are off base on this one. About the only conservative thing he did was lower taxes...
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