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FC Porto out of the Champions League

Tiago_10

Senior Squad
This has been happening for the last two decades, and Mourinho wasn't their manager all that time, as obvious as it is, so no it doesn't really take much from him, imo.

I won't say much more than what I said when the decision to take 6 points from Porto was made.

This time however, it gets larger visibility, it really gets noticed around Europe at least.


And one last thing but not the least, I remember when very dubious referring was taking place, and many fans would come to the Portuguese Leage Thread here in SG and complain about it 'cause it was so obvious and yet, all the Porto fans said things like "Oh not this conspiracy theories again" "You have to prove that" "You're just making up excuses" etc. kinda talk and now finally they are proved wrong.


Now I also understand it's not the fans fault, they did not corrupt anyone but Pdc did, and I must say it's really sad that blind worship of him still continues after this.
 

SCP19O6

Senior Squad
bruno167;2532554 said:
I just would like to know if Porto can´t go to CL why Juve and Fiorentina are in:clapwap:


Because there wasn't such regulation when their convictions came out, that's the diference.
 

Filipower

Bunburyist
Tiago_10;2532558 said:
This has been happening for the last two decades
You make those kind of accusations and then talk about the need for proofs. You probably take dumps smaller than that piece of crap.
 

Tiago_10

Senior Squad
Really, do you need more evidences? Are you seriously beliving it was only on the refered season this kind of actions took place??

I'm pretty sure José Pratas running away form the Porto players in your stadium is a pretty clear example, for instance. He was actually afraid of them, he knew if he expelled the bunch of them for their behaviour his career was fcked. Hell, every ref knew it.

How about those checks and paid travels to Brazil some refs received from a company owned by some the Porto's SAD directors?? That is just me making up things I suppose, even after it was shown some years ago in all Portuguese open TV channels.
 

SCP19O6

Senior Squad
Not only José Pratas. Augusto Duarte, José Silvano, José Guimaro, Carlos Pinto, João Mesquita, Paulo Costa, Paulo Paraty, José Leirós, Martins dos Santos...

Basically every portuguese referee from the 80's and 90's, with the exception of Jorge Coroado and Veiga Trigo.
 

Avalanche

Senior Squad
$teauA;2532546 said:
Man, along with CFR Cluj being in the group stage, those are two teams right there that I guarantee at least 80% of Europe has never heard of.

My knowledge of Romanian football may be spotty at best, but do CFR Cluj still suck from the teat of the railroad industry like Rapid Bucharest?
 

Capela

Reserve Team
if this confirmed it's bad for porto and for portuguese football
we loose our strongest team at the moment and a chance of making points for the ranking
but the reason that porto gives as an appeal is ridiculous. you commited a "crime" but there wasn't a law against it yet so you can't be blamed for it...
come on... you (pinto da costa) screwed up, now take it like a men
 

$teauA

Superstar
Avalanche;2532602 said:
My knowledge of Romanian football may be spotty at best, but do CFR Cluj still suck from the teat of the railroad industry like Rapid Bucharest?

Neither one of those two clubs has anything to do with the railroad industry anymore other than maybe their logos. Both are owed by middle-aged white millionaires who don't know what to do with their money so they invest in a football club.
 

yoyo913

Team Captain
Yeah I just checked their wiki, holy crap they have alot of foreigners. What are the rules for foreign players in romania? Can they have alot of EU members?
 

RuiCosta_10

Starting XI
Filipower;2532522 said:
Benfica, as you can see by RuiCosta_10 creaming

You're pathetic, really.

To put things clear on this, i couldn't care LESS if Benfica is going to Champions League or not, WE DO NOT DESERVE IT, end of.

If i'm happy, it's not because of that, but because finally justice has been made, even tho it's nothing compared to what you've done, it's still something, and most important of all, the new is spread around the Europe and the World, so now maybe our past accusations will make some sense and won't be considered only as fanatic points of view.


Filipower;2532507 said:
Mourinho.
That's what annoys the crap out of me, why the **** would you try to win a game by corrupting a referee when you have Mourinho? :D



Also, to all you sore, sore fans of other clubs, just shut the **** up already with the "fairness" and the singing and the happiness. For once just be gracious when bad things happen to other clubs. If Pinto da Costa did corrupt referees, no Porto fan wants to have anything to do with it. Also, it was only proven in two games, so stop with the "25 years of corruption blablabla". You ****ers couldn't win **** for those 25 years, don't blame it on Porto. You know very well that it's Porto didn't corrupt referees every single game for the past two decades, and they certainly didn't corrupt european referees when we won the Uefa Cup and the Champions League(twice). The same **** happened to clubs like Milan, Juve and Fiore and nobody complained about unfairness then, but of course, you whining benfiquistas and sportinguistas have to talk through your asses in the first chance you get, just because your clubs cannot produce on the field.

So yes, I am obviously ashamed and disappointed with the people who run my club of heart, who I thought put Porto's interests above all else and who have disappointed the fans of my club, but I also think that appearing as if you were the biggest saints on earth - as you are doing - shows that you are nothing a but sorry losers. The only thing worse than being ungracious when things go wrong, is being ungracious when things go right. So please stop with the party, men.

You clearly don't know me, so please stop with the moral accusations and being pretentious AND, stop being so rude on the internet.

For things like this i am now, more and more beginning to dislike football, corruption, the exorbitant proportions that this is getting in terms of money, the constant rivalries taken to the limits, etc...

What makes me more sad about this is the hypocrisy that reigns in our people and specially in our media, to me, it's absolutely unreal how a person like PdC can get so much praise by your fans, can pass immune on the media that does nothing but lick is balls and can still manage to laugh on everyone's face knowing that he has the power that allows him to do pretty much everything he wants with no problems at all.

Luckily, i've been more addicted to football than i am now, i still love it, i specially love Benfica and the game that it's still the same with a difference here and there, but seriously, on the day that i know Benfica is accused of corruption i can safely say i want them to go DOWN as they deserve, i have far more important things to care about now, really...


About not going on the fans, you sure don't have a direct fault on what's happening, but you're not that good on the picture, are you? I can only get a conclusion about your reactions after this decision, and also about your 'blindness' on the past 25 years:

You are either really dumb, or you are intellectually dishonest.

Either way, it's useless to get in a discussion.
 

Filipower

Bunburyist
it's useless to get into a discussion because the only problem here is the way you do things....obviously nobody is happy about Porto being accused, and nobody is proud of PdC(and others, because he hasn't done it alone) because of what his done...but saying things like "for the past 25 years" Porto has been a corrupt club, because you know that as well as I know that Benfica and Sporting have been just as corrupt...everyone knows some of the Porto administrators have corrupted referees, I want the people that did it dead as much as the next guy (probably more, seeing as it is my club), but you cannot say things like that, specially when there are few clubs on the country who are free of such crimes...
 

RuiCosta_10

Starting XI
Filipower;2532731 said:
it's useless to get into a discussion because the only problem here is the way you do things....obviously nobody is happy about Porto being accused, and nobody is proud of PdC(and others, because he hasn't done it alone) because of what his done...but saying things like "for the past 25 years" Porto has been a corrupt club, because you know that as well as I know that Benfica and Sporting have been just as corrupt...everyone knows some of the Porto administrators have corrupted referees, I want the people that did it dead as much as the next guy (probably more, seeing as it is my club), but you cannot say things like that, specially when there are few clubs on the country who are free of such crimes...

Like i said, and you confirmed it with this post, it's useless.
 

Filipower

Bunburyist
glad you agree you were talking out of your ass, then...

because if I remember correctly it was you who started the thread
 

RuiCosta_10

Starting XI
You're just plain ..., i'm sorry.

Let's do one thing, stick with your punishment this year, and forget the "25 years thing" ok? Because i will not discuss that kind of arguments with people like you.

But hey, at least you admit this situation is a shame and you don't like it, props for that... i guess...
 

yagami

Youth Team
i think its necessary to explain things properly to those who dont live in portugal.

Pinto da Costa is a corrupt manager and FC Porto only wins by corruption.

it was clear that when porto won uefa and champions with mourinho, it was because he is king of mafia, world mafia. he is the ruler of all referres !

WE HAD TO CORRUPT the referee against E. Amadora, because , well , E. Amadora was a fearfull team that year. It had C. Ronaldo, Van nistelroy, Ronaldinho Gaucho, Pepe, Pirlo and Ricardo carvalho on its team. If we didnt bought the referee , we would never had any change of winning againt them.

Sure , we werent afraid of Manchester United, Desportivo, Monaco, Real Madrid. But those teams are nothing compared to the Mighty E. Amadora.

Even caught , i am happy that Pinto da Costa bought the referee. It was the only thing we could do.

Even Mourinho , when he was in porto, was a crappy manager. he only won in portugal because of the referees. every portuguese soccer fan said so those years that he was in FC Porto.

And justice was done finally. and its clear... as a result we never won anything since this "Apito Dourado" process was started to get Corrupt Pinto da Costa.

I just hope that FC Porto go into second division.

Now that justice was done, we will see benfica again winning everything nacionally and internacionally ! yes , beware Manchester United, because now that there is justice in portugal, benfica is going to win the champions ! they are such an organized team , with world class players.

Justice was done... Because Carolina Salgado would not lie ... ever !!!

this is very good for portugal. i just hope because Pinto da Costa is the king of the world mafia ( i have suspicions as to where he was in September 11, and i am certain that he knows bin laden personally ), porto wont get cleared in uefa by his influince.
 

RuiCosta_10

Starting XI
If you needed the referees or not in those games, i don't know, probably not.

Fact is, that when you choose not to fight back the 6 points decision you assume yourself as guilty. And the excuse that you didn't needed the 6 points was no excuse at all, it was actually just a way to throw some sand to FCP fans (which by some comments actually worked out pretty well) and at the same time provoke Benfica a bit.

The ridiculous it's the fact that people don't discuss if Porto is guilty or not, what you say is:

"Yes, we are corrupt! But Italian teams also were and didn't had the same treatment!"

Do you realise how ridiculous you all look when you talk/write sometimes?




And, btw, it's ironic how all these years you used b*tches to persuade referees as a form of corruption, and after all it was a b*tch who f*cked you, haha, oh man...
 

sl benfica

Reserve Team
Oh boy another one ...

Well after Porto, and CSKA Sofia have been been banned from CL looks like Steaua Bucharest will be next according to report after they were also accuses and docked 7 points for a bribery scandal. The 3rd place team will be filing a complaint with UEFA this week.
 


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