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FC Porto Thread [2005-2006]

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Website: www.fcporto.pt


Stadium: Estádio Do Dragão



History:

September, 1893. Out from nothing, as a secret ambition unfolded by a tough and inflexible reality, F.C. Porto has been founded. António Nicolau d´Almeida, a fine sportsman and an expert Oporto Wine trader, invited, in the quality of F.C. Porto president, F.C. Lisbonense to a football match. It was the first appearance in a football match for the club, the most ancient page written in a hundred years of history.

Deep and insightful enthusiasm marked the years that followed F.C. Porto foundation. To unite the efforts of the local community with the strong English representation in Oporto was the goal of José Monteiro da Costa. This led to extinction of Grupo Recreativo «O Destino» in favour of F.C. Porto. It was the beginning of a solid structure.

The founders were men strongly determined to engender a symbol, an emblem or an icon, in which future generations would have pride on. Their remarkable initiative is still remembered. Blue and white were the colours chosen, as meaning of pureness, calmness and stillness of mind. The colours were represented, at that early time, in the Portuguese flag.

F.C. Porto evolved his purposes to national and universal goals. In the first emblem, the symbol was, of course, a football ball with the F.C.P. initials. Twenty years later the Oporto city shield becomes vital part of F.C. Porto badge. In 1948, the 3-2 victory over Arsenal, team at the time known as the best team in the world, was a proof of the blue and white potential.

Over the years F.C. Porto grew as the conquests were becoming bigger and as his purposes were becoming greater. The symbol of a region astounded the country and surprised the world. De 1980’s were probably the most memorable decade. In 1987 and 1988, F.C. Porto conquered the European Cup, the Intercontinental Cup and the European Supercup, outstanding deed, a proof of the success of special approach in how to deal with sports. Few years later, F.C. Porto achieved a goal that no other club in Portugal dare to accomplish. Five Championships in a row was a remarkable act, another great page in the club's history.

Nowadays the world has changed and Portugal too has evolved. Sports reality is now more complex, but F.C. Porto remains at the top. The club remained winning and the dynamics persist, continuing to be a flag of the region. F.C. Porto has now representation all over the country and all over the world.

The Centro de Treinos e Formação Desportiva PortoGaia and the Dragão Stadium are modern standard of a vanguard difficult to be equalised. The future shines as a reflex of the conquests of the UEFA Cup, in the season 2002/03, of the UEFA Champions League, in 2003/04, and the Intercontinental Cup, in 2004.

Beyond the reality that surrounds football, F.C. Porto showed his greatness in other sports. The honours achieved speak for it. The club that has a Dragon as a symbol holds the Championship title in basketball, handball and roller-hockey, the sports that more cheer up the portuguese. Billiards, swimming, athletics, adapted sport, motor sports, boxing, camping, chess, fishing, karate and weightlifting give also the contribution to this history of success and insure the diversity and necessary involvement in community well being.


Honours:

League Winners:
1921/22,1924/25,1931/32,1934/35,
1936/37,1938/39,1939/40,1955/56,
1958/59,1977/78,1978/79,1984/85,
1985/86,1987/88,1989/90,1991/92,
1992/93,1994/95,1995/96,1996/97,
1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,2003/04

Cup Winners:
1955/56,1957/58,1967/68,1976/77,
1983/84,1987/88,1990/91,1993/94,
1997/98,1999/00, 2000/01,2002/03

Supercup Winners:
1981/82,1983/84,1984/85,1985/86,
1989/90,1990/91,1992/93,1993/94,
1995/96,1997/98,1998/99,2002/03,
2003/04

UEFA Cup Winners:
2002/03

Champions League Winners:
1986/87, 2003/04

European Supercup Winners:
1986/87

Intercontinental Cup Winners:
1987/88, 2004/05


Season 2005/06


Confirmed Transfers:

Players IN:
Lucho González (River Plate)
Lisandro Lopez (Racing Club)
Tomo Sokota (Benfica)
Sandro, Paulo Ribeiro (V. Setúbal)
Anderson (Grêmio)
Fatih Sonkaya (Besiktas)
Marek Cech (Sparta Praha)
Jorginho (V. Setubal)
Alan (Maritimo)
Helton (U. Leiria)
Paulo Assunção, Bruno Alves (AEK, back from Loan)
César Peixoto (V. Guimarães, back from Loan)
Hugo Almeida (Boavista, back from Loan)
Bruno Moraes (V. Setubal, back from Loan)
Adriano (Cruzeiro)

Players OUT:
Costinha, Maniche, Seitaridis (Dinamo Moscow)
L. Fabiano (Sevilla)
Nuno Valente (Everton)
Hugo Leal (Released)
Jankauskas (Released)
Jorge Costa (Standard Liége)

Loans:
Bruno Vale, Paulo Machado (E. Amadora)
Vieirinha, Pedro Ribeiro, Gonzalo (Marco)
Organista (Pontevedra)
Rodrigo Ângelo (Chaves)
Pedro Oliveira (V. Setubal)
Marcos Antonio (Gil Vicente)
Rui Sacramento (Valdevez)
Flávio Igor (Setúbal B)
Ricardo Costa (Tourizense)
Sandro (Tourizense)
Vítor Silva (Santa Clara)
Maciel (U. Leiria)
Claudio (Al Ittihad/Santos)
Leo Lima (Santos)
Areias (Boavista)
Leandro do Bomfim (São Paulo)
Sandro (Vestel Manisaspor)
Marco Ferreira (Penafiel)
Leandro (Cruzeiro)
Hélder Postiga (St. Etienne)


Transfer Rumours:

Players IN:

Players OUT:


Pre-Season Fixtures/Results:

Porto, Portugal
Saturday, July 9th:
Porto x Tourizense (Friendly)
3 x 1
Jorginho, César Peixoto, Postiga; Chano

Doorwerth, Holland
Wednesday, July 13th:
NEC x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 1
Postiga

Doorwerth, Holland
Saturday, July 16th:
Bennekom x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 7
Bomfim (pen), Alan, Ivanildo, Quaresma (pen), Pepe, Sokota, Hugo Almeida

Doorwerth, Holland
Wednesday, July 20th:
Vitesse x Porto (Friendly)
2 x 0
Pedro Emanuel (o.g.), Amoah

Brugge, Belgium
Saturday, July 23th:
Club Brugge x Porto (Torten Goetinck Trophy)
2 x 2 (7-8 after Pens)
Balaban (pen), Balaban; Benni (pen), Ricardo Costa

Amsterdam, Holland
Friday, July 29th:
Porto x Boca Juniors (Amsterdam Tournament)
2 x 0
Postiga, Jorginho

Amsterdam, Holland
Sunday, July 31st:
Porto x Arsenal (Amsterdam Tournament)
1 x 2
Lisandro; Ljungberg x2

London, England
Saturday, August 6th:
Tottenham x Porto (Friendly)
2 x 0
Defoe x2

Penafiel, Portugal
Wednesday, August 10th:
Penafiel x Porto (Friendly)
0 x 2
Hugo Almeida, Sokota

Porto, Portugal
Saturday, August 13th:
Porto x Espanyol (Friendly)
3 x 0
Jorginho x2, Lucho


Squad:

Goalkeepers
99 Vítor Baía
1 Helton
30 Paulo Ribeiro

Left Backs
35 Marek Cech
(21 César Peixoto)

Right Backs
22 Fatih Sonkaya
(12 Bosingwa)

Centre Backs
4 Pedro Emanuel
3 Ricardo Costa
14 Pepe
13 Bruno Alves

Defensive Midfielders
(12 Bosingwa)
18 Paulo Assunção
16 Raúl Meireles

Centre Midfielders
6 Ibson
8 Lucho González

Offensive Midfielders
20 Diego
17 Jorginho
30 Anderson

Right Wingers
7 Quaresma
27 Alan

Left Wingers
(21 César Peixoto)
25 Ivanildo

Forwards
11 Lisandro Lopez
29 Bruno Moraes
9 Benni McCarthy
19 Tomo Sokota
39 Hugo Almeida

Coach: Co Adriaanse


Season Fixtures/Results:


Sunday, August 21th:
Porto x Estrela da Amadora (Portuguese League, 1st round)
1 x 0
Ricardo Costa

Friday, August 26th:
Naval x Porto (Portuguese League, 2nd round)
2 x 3
Bruno Fogaça, César Peixoto (o.g.); César Peixoto x2, Hugo Almeida

Saturday, September 10th:
Porto x Rio Ave (Portuguese League, 3rd round)
3 x 0
Quaresma, Alan, Hugo Almeida

Tuesday, September 13th:
Rangers x Porto (Champions League, Group H, 1st round)
3 x 2
Lovenkrands, Prso, Kyrgiakos; Pepe x2

Sunday, September 18th:
Braga x Porto (Portuguese League, 4th round)
0 x 0

Saturday, September 24th:
Porto x Belenenses (Portuguese League, 5th round)
2 x 0
Benni, Jorginho

Wednesday, September 28th:
Porto x Artmedia (Champions League, Group H, 2nd round)
2 x 3
Lucho, Diego; Petras, Kozak, Borbely

Sunday, October 2nd:
Maritimo x Porto (Portuguese League, 6th round)
2 x 2
Manduca, Marcinho; Lisandro, César Peixoto

Saturday, October 15th:
Porto x Benfica (Portuguese League, 7th round)
0 x 2
N. Gomes x2

Wednesday, October 19th:
Porto x Inter (Champions League, Group H, 3rd round)
2 x 0
Materazzi (o.g.), Benni

Sunday, October 23rd:
Nacional x Porto (Portuguese League, 8th round)
0 x 1
Hugo Almeida

Wednesday, October 26th:
Porto x Marco (Portuguese Cup, 4th round)
1 x 0
Ivanildo

Saturday, October 29th:
Porto x Setubal (Portuguese League, 9th round)
0 x 0

Tuesday, November 1st:
Inter x Porto (Champions League, Group H, 4th round)
2 x 1
Cruz x2; Hugo Almeida

Sunday, November 6th:
Paços de Ferreira x Porto (Portuguese League, 10th round)
0 x 1
Quaresma

Saturday, November 19th:
Porto x Academica (Portuguese League, 11th round)
5 x 1
Lucho x2, Lisandro x2, César Peixoto; Marcel

Wednesday, November 23rd:
Porto x Rangers (Champions League, Group H, 5th round)
1 x 1
Lisandro; McCormack

Monday, November 28th:
Gil Vicente x Porto (Portuguese League, 12th round)
0 x 1
Lucho

Friday, December 2nd:
Porto x Sporting (Portuguese League, 13th round)
1 x 1
Polga (o.g.); Deivid

Tuesday, December 6th:
Artmedia x Porto (Champions League, Group H, 5th round)
0 x 0

Saturday, December 10th:
União de Leiria x Porto (Portuguese League, 14th round)
1 x 3
Fábio Felício; Laranjeiro (o.g.), Lisandro, Diego

Saturday, December 17th:
Porto x Penafiel (Portuguese League, 15th round)
3 x 1
Lucho x2, Lisandro; Bruno Amaro

Thursday, December 22th:
V. Guimarães x Porto (Portuguese League, 16th round)
0 x 2
Quaresma, Jorginho

Sunday, January 8th:
Porto x Boavista (Portuguese League, 17th round)
1 x 0
Quaresma

Wednesday, January 11th:
Naval x Porto (Portuguese Cup, 5th round)
1 x 2
Saulo; Diego, Lucho (pen)

Sunday, January 15th:
E. Amadora x Porto (Portuguese League, 18th round)
2 x 1
Maurício, Coutinho; Lucho

Saturday, January 21st:
Porto x Naval (Portuguese League, 19th round)
1 x 0
Fernando (o.g.)

Sunday, January 29st:
Rio Ave x Porto (Portuguese League, 20th round)
0 x 0

Sunday, February 6th:
Porto x Braga (Portuguese League, 21st round)
1 x 1
Lucho; João Tomás (pen)

Saturday, February 11th:
Belenenses x Porto (Portuguese League, 22th round)
0 x 2
Adriano x2

Sunday, February 19th:
Porto x Maritimo (Portuguese League, 23th round)
1 x 0
Raúl Meireles

Sunday, February 26th:
Benfica x Porto (Portuguese League, 24th round)
1 x 0
Robert

Sunday, March 5th:
Porto x Nacional (Portuguese League, 25th round)
3 x 0
Benni, Pepe, Lucho

Friday, March 10th:
Setubal x Porto (Portuguese League, 26th round)
0 x 2
Adriano, Raúl Meireles

Wednesday, March 15th:
Maritimo x Porto (Portuguese Cup, Quarter-Finals)
1 x 2
Kanu; Benni x2

Saturday, March 18th:
Porto x Paços de Ferreira (Portuguese League, 27th round)
3 x 0
Benni, Adriano, Lisandro

Wednesday, March 22nd:
Porto x Sporting (Portuguese Cup, Semi-Finals)
1 x 1 (5-4 after penalties)
Benni; Liedson

Sunday, March 26th:
Academica x Porto (Portuguese League, 28th round)
0 x 1
Hugo Almeida

Sunday, April 2nd:
Porto x Gil Vicente (Portuguese League, 29th round)
3 x 0
Cech, Quaresma, Ibson

Saturday, April 8th:
Sporting x Porto (Portuguese League, 30th round)
0 x 1
Jorginho

Friday, April 14th:
Porto x União de Leiria (Portuguese League, 31st round)
1 x 0
Adriano

Saturday, April 22th:
Penafiel x Porto (Portuguese League, 32th round)
0 x 1
Adriano (pen)

Sunday, April 30th:
Porto x V. Guimarães (Portuguese League, 33rd round)
3 x 1
Lucho x2, Adriano; Antchouet

Saturday, May 6th:
Boavista x Porto (Portuguese League, 34th round)
1 x 1
Paulo Jorge; Lisandro














Top Scorers:

Lucho 12
Lisandro 8
Adriano 7
Benni 5
Hugo Almeida 5
Quaresma 5







Done!
I'll be updating the info on this first page whenever justified.


This will be a bright season for us m8s, I can feel it :sun:



FORÇA PORTO!
:rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman: :rockman:
 

Paulo Da Silva

Starting XI
awesome job there Massive, couldn't have done it myself (seriously i couldn't, did u see th horrible job i did on the old thread, lol)
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
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Glad you liked it, I did my best :p


Btw people, if there's any transfer rumour I've missed, please let me know so that I can add it to the first post.

The confirmed transfers must be published at the club's site or at uefa.com, I think you agree on this one.


The Sokota deal is being talked again on the press.
Deep sh't if it really comes to happen, it's all I have to say :kader:

And the Leo Lima going to Flamengo rumour is getting stronger..
I say we should loan the guy, he's had few chances here and I liked his football with Maritimo.
 

Amdy Faye

Senior Squad
MaSsiVe said:
Amdy Faye I'm gonna help INFESTA on this one:

- Seitaridis is leaving to Dinamo Moscow aswell, for 10 million €

- Carlos Alberto's been with Corinthians since December/January, undisclosed fee I guess

- N. Valente will stay with us next season yeah, and I don't see him moving to a better club in the future because of his age (~30)

- Fabiano was nicknamed "Fabulous" in Brazil, he was on a 2nd line of strikers in the Brazil NT, behind Ronaldo and Adriano, at the time we bought him..should have been a good buy, but unfortunately nothing went well for him at the club.
R. Oliveira is a great player, but at that time he was rated behind Fabiano for sure....

- Confirmed transfers so far:

Players IN
Lucho Gonzalez (Midfielder, River Plate/Argentinian NT)
Lisandro Lopez (Striker, Racing)

Players OUT:
Costinha, Maniche, Seitaridis (Dinamo Moscow)

- Ibson will have a bright future: he's young, skilled, and humble.



Hope I've helped ;)

Thanks for that mate, yea you've helped :)

Seitaridis.. Damn.. Why's he goin there too? Do Moscow have some sort of agreement? Is he part of the deal of is it just a co-incidence? So that means Moscow are spendin a hella lot of money for those 3 players eh.

Carlos Alberto Corinthians eh.. Hows he doin there and that's with Tevez right? I never even heard when Tevez moved, how come he moved there anyway? (Tevez) I would of thought his next move would of been with a big european club maybe? Does Carlos Alberto still get call-ups for the Brazil team, or has this affair just made him go a bit downhill?

Valente, that's cool never knew he was 30! He did well in Euro has he done well since?

Fabiano, yea I see what your saying but who knows he could come along eh, but if he doesnt will he be sold?

What are Gonzalez and Lopez like? Is Gonzalez tricky like say ... The Sevilla Adriano?

Im sure i'l be hearing of Ibson soon then.

So Diego's gonna be the main man next year I take it?

Cheers bud!
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
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Amdy Faye:

- Seitaridis must be going for the money, as Maniche did...it's the only plausible reason.
Dinamo have already bought half a team of portuguese players, or brazilians that were playing in the SuperLiga, don't ask me why :p
So, they've spent 30 million € on the 3 players (Seitaridis, Maniche, Costinha).

- C. Alberto usually plays with Corinthians, he's one of their stars together with...Tevez.
C. Alberto I think never got any call-ups to Brazil while he was playing for us, and isn't having them now with Corinthians...but he will soon, he has tremendous talent.

- N. Valente had been injured for almost the entire season :(
He'll be back on track as long as his phsyical condition is good.

- Fabiano will most definitely leave, probably to Sevilla.
I wouldn't mind giving him another chance here though, but that is not likely to happen.

- I never saw Lisandro Lopez play, so I can't tell you much about his game now..Just know he's still quite young (22).
Lucho is a regular Argentinian NT starter, he has lots of skills.
He's like a #8 player, likes to have the ball on his feet to provide scoring chances but doesn't let go of the defense when needed...I find him to be very usefull especially now with Maniche leaving.

- Diego's gonna explode! He just needs the team to do well and all of his talent will rise. This kid has everything to be a world class player, and will become one. Mark these words ;)
 

Amdy Faye

Senior Squad
Cheers for the info bud.

Lol that's a bit of a co-incidence that Fabiano may go to Seville when we were speaking about Oliveira, that'd be a good partnership, definately on paper anyway.

So the future doesn't look so grim for Porto, if Diego does make it big then that'll be brilliant and you guys will probably forget the likes of Maniche and Costinha.

So Seitaridis, why do they want him? He didn't have the best season right?
 

Filipower

Bunburyist
yes, and helton and sokota are confirmed too...

lucho gonzalez scored a great goal this week...if he plays like he's been playin over here, he and diego will tare portuguese defences down:rockman::rockman:

:ewan:
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
Staff member
Moderator
yeah, the Dragon's new crib Tajike (H)....hopefully this season will give us many reasons to smile :jap:

Amdy Faye said:
Cheers for the info bud.

Lol that's a bit of a co-incidence that Fabiano may go to Seville when we were speaking about Oliveira, that'd be a good partnership, definately on paper anyway.

So the future doesn't look so grim for Porto, if Diego does make it big then that'll be brilliant and you guys will probably forget the likes of Maniche and Costinha.

So Seitaridis, why do they want him? He didn't have the best season right?


m8, Fabiano may be going to Sevilla FC, not Real Betis from Sevilla where Oliveira is :p

Seitaridis, even after having a poor season, has got the attention of the football world because of his amazing Euro2004 performances.
Before he came to Porto, Real Madrid were very interested in him, but we managed to secure his services in time.
So I guess that people still rate him as being a very good SB, hell, even I still do and I'me a Porto fan (6)
I'm disappointed he left, but the fee was indeed very good for the club.....


I hope we have a good season again, I miss us shocking the world of football(H)
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
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Filipower said:
yes, and helton and sokota are confirmed too...

links for the confirmed transfers, do you have them?
it has not been confirmed on the club's site or uefa.com.....so they are just strong rumours, right?
 

zuppafly

Youth Team
Nice thread Massive :P

I posted this somewhere else, but I'll do it only once in this thread until the start of the season (concerning the transfers in the off-season):

Viana: No, thank you.
Meira: No, thank you.
Sokota: Yes, please.
I want Zé Castro, Nelson, Diogo Valente and Katsouranis.
Promote Paulo Machado, Ivanildo for good, and Vieirinha and Márcio Sousa sould be training with the A team and could make a couple of games too.

And please, sell Pepe, Leo Lima and Pitbull.

My roster for 2005/2006:

GK: Baía/Helton/Sacramento
RB: Nelson /(Bosingwa)
LB: N.Valente/Leandro
CB: J.Costa/R.Costa/P.Emanuel/Zé Castro
DMC: Katsouranis/Bosingwa/P.Machado
MC: Lucho/Ibson
OM: Diego/Bomfim/Márcio Sousa
RW: Quaresma/Vierinha
LW: Ivanildo/Diogo Valente
SC: Postiga/Lisandro/Sokota

Aren't coaches always looking for 25 players in their roster? Here you have them.

Oh,and that's 16 portuguese.... + 5 brasilians , 2 argentinianss, 1 Greek and one Croatian.
No more samba school and Co would have a lot of kids there to develope.
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
Staff member
Moderator
zuppafly said:
GK: Baía/Helton/Sacramento
RB: Nelson /(Bosingwa)
LB: N.Valente/Leandro
CB: J.Costa/R.Costa/P.Emanuel/Zé Castro
DMC: Katsouranis/Bosingwa/P.Machado
MC: Lucho/Ibson
OM: Diego/Bomfim/Márcio Sousa
RW: Quaresma/Vierinha
LW: Ivanildo/Diogo Valente
SC: Postiga/Lisandro/Sokota

Kind of a nice squad there zuppa, I just don't see Sokota playing for us, as I hate the guy :p
And I mainly agree with Nelson, D.Valente and Zé Castro coming, they are great prospects!
Pepe and Claudio should definitely leave us.. :kader:


Btw man, some time ago I sent you a PM asking you not to leave the forums...but it's unread yet (6)
Good to know you're back either way :jap:
 
V

Virgo

Guest
why the hell do you want Sokota? He's crap

If it's just to piss off Benfica fans... well guess what, most are quite happy about if he does join Porto :D
 

zuppafly

Youth Team
MaSsiVe said:
Kind of a nice squad there zuppa, I just don't see Sokota playing for us, as I hate the guy :p
And I mainly agree with Nelson, D.Valente and Zé Castro coming, they are great prospects!
Pepe and Claudio should definitely leave us.. :kader:


Btw man, some time ago I sent you a PM asking you not to leave the forums...but it's unread yet (6)
Good to know you're back either way :jap:
Unread? Nope... I read it ;)
And I'm back only for occasional posts. Sort of like the last one, and the ones praising Bock and Freamunde :P
 

zuppafly

Youth Team
Virgo said:
why the hell do you want Sokota? He's crap

If it's just to piss off Benfica fans... well guess what, most are quite happy about if he does join Porto :D

I see him as a new Jankauskas. Many porto fans complained about Jan, but I found him extremely usefull back on his times (ask Mourinho). Sokota won't be a starter... probably not even the 2nd option, but I think he can be usefull. I don't want another roster with 3 or 4 players fighting for only one spot, all being able to be starters like this year. I want Postiga to start, Lisandro to be the 2nd option and Sokota to the rescue :P

And no, it's not to piss off Benfica fans. I couldn't care less about it. I only care about my team.
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
Staff member
Moderator
zuppafly said:
Unread? Nope... I read it ;)
And I'm back only for occasional posts. Sort of like the last one, and the ones praising Bock and Freamunde :P

Well it's just that I usually ask for a read receipt and that PM is still considered unread.
But whatever, stay cool m8 ;)
 

bmpv666

Reserve Team
why have Sokota when we have Hugo Almeida? who can be even more useful if you consider his heigth...Almeida can perfectly fill the 2nd or 3rd option for the attack, and can be of great help in those 2nd halfs when we need to desperatly score one
 

zuppafly

Youth Team
I was a fan of Hugo Almeida a few years ago... Now I see him as another Romeu. I don't think he'll ever be good enough for Porto.
And I do see some qualities in Sokota.
 

SCP19O6

Senior Squad
I would love to see Hugo Viana at FC Porto. With the options FCP has for the midfield he would be in the bench 90% of the time.
If instead, he goes to Benfica, he would play even with a broken leg.
 
I have to admit, I find that very hard to beleive that any Portista is actually glad to have Sokota on their side :| Sounds very insincere to me...Benfiquistas have thought he was useless and Portistas always agree and then some. Oh well, at least he'll be not scorring for you guys now.

If Sokota was smart he would have went to Braga or Guimaraes, at least there he would have been a starter and got to play in the UEFA cup. Then again, I guess going from Benfica B to warming the bench at Porto is still technically a step up. Although with our luck, he'll end up being a great player in a Porto kit after doing nothing with us....sounds familiar don't it?
 
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