Female Movements To Mens Matches

[daniel.ok]

Guys, excuse me. I do not really understand. Can I ask you a few important questions for me.
1. If I transfered, for example, Louisa Necib to Juventus, she will stop to use the women's motion capture, and start moving as a men??
2. If I changed gender in DB for example, for Paul Pogba, he will start moving as women's movements or not?

And perhaps the biggest question. Are you absolutely sure that there is a difference? Personally, I think that women's players are moving better, but maybe it's just an optical illusion ...

#1: correct
#2: no, women movements are related to TEAM ID not to player's gender

yes, absolutely there is a huge difference!!!

 

[bangus]

#1: correct
#2: no, women movements are related to TEAM ID not to player's gender

yes, absolutely there is a huge difference!!!

Hey daniel, let's not go overboard. They're a bit different than the men's animations, yes. But it's not "huge!!!" different lol.

 

[Oxifan]

Ok, thanks. And it's sounds a little sad.

 

[Sieniek]

Hello bangus and all. To be honest I think the difference between women's and men's animations are quite big...other than that there is also a difference in heaviness and because of all that playing as a women's national teams feel so much more fluid and just better and I think it is a lot better. I would like to start my carrer by some team from premiership but I just can't because everytime I will play a match by woman's I can't back to men's gameplay anymore. I hope somebody will find a way to transform women's gameplay to men's. That would be amazing.

 

[daniel.ok]

Hello bangus and all. To be honest I think the difference between women's and men's animations are quite big...other than that there is also a difference in heaviness and because of all that playing as a women's national teams feel so much more fluid and just better and I think it is a lot better. I would like to start my carrer by some team from premiership but I just can't because everytime I will play a match by woman's I can't back to men's gameplay anymore. I hope somebody will find a way to transform women's gameplay to men's. That would be amazing.

You've read my mind with those words! At least someone else it feels my pain!

 

[Sieniek]

Exactly...pain is quite big because we have fifa 16 men's with good gameplay and we have fifa 16 women's with great gameplay (when I played first match by women's it felt amazing...exactly the same feeling last time with videogame I had when I put on disc with pes 5 on my ps2 many years ago and made first pass first turn first shoot and cross). Of course there is a big BIG gap between pes5 and fifa 16 woman's gameplay in terms of technology and of course fifa 16 woman's is better in terms of it but hey...we have 2016 so that should be normal as our expectations should be much higher. And now the point is if a football game made me felt amazing in 2016 that's very very promising. I remember so many voices of saying that is a bad idea to add women's national teams by EA to FIFA 16...and no..I think that is the best in last couple years what could happen to EA sports and their FIFA franchise and for us customers who just love football. EA just showed us that they know "how to" make a football game with "heart" and "feeling"...many peoples keep saying that fifa have no soul and have frantic movement and that there is no enough feeling when you play...not anymore ladies and gentlemens...they just prove us by woman's gameplay that they know how to make an amazing football game with beautiful feeling like for example old PES5 had. I have really big hopes that WE can as all community here find a way to transform women's gameplay to men's game. I would love to start a carrer with that beautiful woman's gameplay.

 

[daniel.ok]

Exactly...pain is quite big because we have fifa 16 men's with good gameplay and we have fifa 16 women's with great gameplay (when I played first match by women's it felt amazing...exactly the same feeling last time with videogame I had when I put on disc with pes 5 on my ps2 many years ago and made first pass first turn first shoot and cross). Of course there is a big BIG gap between pes5 and fifa 16 woman's gameplay in terms of technology and of course fifa 16 woman's is better in terms of it but hey...we have 2016 so that should be normal as our expectations should be much higher. And now the point is if a football game made me felt amazing in 2016 that's very very promising. I remember so many voices of saying that is a bad idea to add women's national teams by EA to FIFA 16...and no..I think that is the best in last couple years what could happen to EA sports and their FIFA franchise and for us customers who just love football. EA just showed us that they know "how to" make a football game with "heart" and "feeling"...many peoples keep saying that fifa have no soul and have frantic movement and that there is no enough feeling when you play...not anymore ladies and gentlemens...they just prove us by woman's gameplay that they know how to make an amazing football game with beautiful feeling like for example old PES5 had. I have really big hopes that WE can as all community here find a way to transform women's gameplay to men's game. I would love to start a carrer with that beautiful woman's gameplay.

i really hope me too that there are people on this forum who can do this (fidel, regularcat, scouser ...) !!

 

[bangus]

Hello bangus and all. To be honest I think the difference between women's and men's animations are quite big...other than that there is also a difference in heaviness and because of all that playing as a women's national teams feel so much more fluid and just better and I think it is a lot better. I would like to start my carrer by some team from premiership but I just can't because everytime I will play a match by woman's I can't back to men's gameplay anymore. I hope somebody will find a way to transform women's gameplay to men's. That would be amazing.

Well women's animations are better as I said, but having better animations is about the last thing this game needs. I just finished a game, leading 1-0 and in the last 15 minutes the CPU pushes me off every ball, is first to every loose ball, runs around like they're riding motor scooters, firing shot after shot that all hit my players and that go out for multiple corners... until of course the CPU finally scores at the 90:00 minute mark to equalize.

This game can have the best animations ever, but it until EA fixes the ridiculous, horrendous, idiotic CPU boost cheats, FIFA will continue to be a steaming pile of worthless dog doo-doo. What would actually be "beautiful" and "amazing" is if EA finally put out a football game that played like football.

 

[Sieniek]

I would say cpu AI is as important as woman's gameplay transfer. For example 5 guy's starting a tournament at home and everyone plays 1p vs 1p and they know how good feeling is when they play by woman's national teams but everyone would love to play by Barca Real etc but again playing by men's is good but definitely not as good as woman's...the gap is very noticeable. So I'm sure this is not about last thing because we should be amazed that there in fifa 16 is an engine which is totally better than engine for man's...that means we have a chance to fight for it somehow if there is any way to make it happen. Cpu AI will be better as always because we have peoples like Fidel ( big big respect for the work which he's doing year by year) who will change it for better if he would like to do it and share it and will disable all these stupid cheats by cpu...but the gameplay the core elements and mechanics are like a heart of every game and I think this is the most important part how you can feel the game and with woman's mechanics EA showed us something fresh and new and much much better than anything they've done before with Fifa game...when you play by them you can just feel everything and that's a pure joy. If I only could have all the knowledge of "how to work on it" I would definitely try to find a way for this woman's gameplay but I don't know how. That's why I am here on this forum trying to help by writing and being a part of it somehow.

 

[Oxifan]

Guys, you have amazing eyes. I also think that women's movements better, but I doubt all the time.

If you move the women's team in another league (men's), women will continue to move as a woman? I mean it is tied only with Team ID, or maybe with League ID too?
Or maybe Country ID too (222)??...

 

[bangus]

but again playing by men's is good but definitely not as good as woman's...the gap is very noticeable. So I'm sure this is not about last thing because we should be amazed that there in fifa 16 is an engine which is totally better than engine for man's...

All I'm going to say is this: I agree the women's animation set is better, the transition animations in particular are indeed smoother. But they are not "amazing," and the difference between them and the men's animations is not "huge." They are still very stilted and robotic, especially given this is all supposed to be next-gen. (When is this next-gen revolution supposed to happen anyway?) Suggesting there is that much of a difference is nothing more than excitable internet-forum hyperbole.

But if you really watch them, they run like women. EA obviously mo-capped women running. So they don't look like men running, they look like women running. Their hips and torsos swing in ways that are different from men. One could go so far as to say that while the women's animations are better, they're also inappropriate for the men, and would look silly. Unless you don't have a problem with that, which is fine. But that's a long ways away removed from beautiful, amazing, will improve FIFA immensely, etc.

That is all.

 

[daniel.ok]

All I'm going to say is this: I agree the women's animation set is better, the transition animations in particular are indeed smoother. But they are not "amazing," and the difference between them and the men's animations is not "huge." They are still very stilted and robotic, especially given this is all supposed to be next-gen. (When is this next-gen revolution supposed to happen anyway?) Suggesting there is that much of a difference is nothing more than excitable internet-forum hyperbole.

But if you really watch them, they run like women. EA obviously mo-capped women running. So they don't look like men running, they look like women running. Their hips and torsos swing in ways that are different from men. One could go so far as to say that while the women's animations are better, they're also inappropriate for the men, and would look silly. Unless you don't have a problem with that, which is fine. But that's a long ways away removed from beautiful, amazing, will improve FIFA immensely, etc.

That is all.

yes, you are right.

but this switch between women & men could be all that we have in order to improve a bit those hideous, ugly robotic movements which are offered by EA year over year.
The last game with decent moving/turning/running mechanics was FIFA 11 ... (god bless tokke - he is keeping alive that game even today ....)

so, at least we have to try ...

 

[bangus]

so, at least we have to try ...

Yes daniel, that I why I have no more to say, and I hope you or someone else can fix this so that you can use the women's animations for the men. Good luck.

 

[Breaker19]

Hey guys,

I was watching this video of womens match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ4oVC-abbg and I agree with you, womens moves is far far far far better than men moves.. I think because we were seeing men moves since fifa 12, 13, 14.. there's still much men moves recicled.

But I think combine men + women moves it would be perfect, not only women moves on men. Do you think this is possible? Because ALL men have the same moves.. it would be nice if you can see for example, Cristiano Ronaldo with 90% men moves and Griezzman with more women moves (its a example) for add more variety.

 

[Oxifan]

daniel.ok, a you have any good news?

 

[daniel.ok]

daniel.ok, a you have any good news?

no , I quit trying.

to bad nobody else, with editing skills cares ....

 

[paulv2k4]

no , I quit trying.

to bad nobody else, with editing skills cares ....

I have quietly been looking at this, more to see what other effects on animation we can get.

I am almost certain it is to do with the script files found in

\data\fifarna\script

 

[campeador]

hey Paul, what you found is very interesting and deserve a better investigation. I wonder if that .bins loaded in scripts are in gameplayattrib files.

 

[daniel.ok]

I have quietly been looking at this, more to see what other effects on animation we can get.

I am almost certain it is to do with the script files found in

\data\fifarna\script

yes, I also mentioned in this thread this. I have also tried to replace the script from men files with script from women files ... but is no use.

first we have to make a clear mapping of how the script files are inter-connected between each-other ...

 

[bangus]

So why not move men onto the women's teams, remove the women, and now you've got a men's league. Can you play tournaments with women's teams? If so, there you go, tournament mode with the men using women's animations.

Better than shit on a stick, as we used to say as kids.