FIFA 11 vs. FIFA 10

[MKDAWUSS]

How much of an upgrade is FIFA 11 (PC) over FIFA 10 (PC)? I know that with getting the newer FIFA I'm basically saying goodbye to a mod I'll probably never finish - essentially making the player pool completely fictional. Why - freedom with team personalities, allowance of ignorance in offseason roster moves, that sort of thing. That sort of mod might have worked better with the NFL or MLB, where there's only about 30 teams to deal with - there's just too many leagues, teams, and nationalities in FIFA (game-generated players/teams would have made it easier, since then all I'd need to do is transfer players here, here, and here).

As you can tell I'm kinda mod-intensive (tweaking and downloading) when it comes to PC games. Yes, I understand that the game just came out and most of the mod tools are now in alpha stage (if they're even being worked on at all), so as of right now, what (if anything) can be modded/created?

Apart from the mods, how's the game better than FIFA 10? Is it more realistic or more arcade-y?

 

[Erevos]

believe me... its day and night... FIFA 11 is miles better from the 10, on gameplay, A.I. physics its superb, its realistics byeong you can imagine, ofcourse isnt perfect but its in the road of perfection, already they are some small mods.

 

[MKDAWUSS]

Cool. Might be worth abandoning my FIFA 10 Roster project. No way I'm doing that in 11 without some help from the game itself, like I did with Madden.

Still might have to do a few roster tweaks, though. Most notably being the players who go by their nicknames. Back of the jersey is one thing, but for the name slot it's what your BC says...

 

[amifla]

believe me... its day and night... FIFA 11 is miles better from the 10, on gameplay, A.I. physics its superb, its realistics byeong you can imagine, ofcourse isnt perfect but its in the road of perfection, already they are some small mods.

Totally Agree. Fifa 10 is a SHAME. Poor, Easy and Stupid Arcade.
Fifa 11 is Absolutely Great!!! The Day and The Night.
Cheers

 

[Duong]

Yeah yeah yeah. Now that FIFA 11 has come out everybody's saying FIFA 10 is sh1t when they used to be raving fanboys over FIFA 10 mods. Show some balance in your arguments please.

 

[The Doctor76]

Yeah yeah yeah. Now that FIFA 11 has come out everybody's saying FIFA 10 is sh1t when they used to be raving fanboys over FIFA 10 mods. Show some balance in your arguments please.

Not me - I never even bought Fifa 10 PC, because it was a complete rehash of Fifa 09 PC - which I had fun with, but I wasn't about to spend £24.99 on the same game. Fifa 11 PC vs Fifa 10 PC is like putting Cassius Clay up against Hornswoggle from WWE.

 

[nentautako]

one thing i noticed is the size of the files. fifa10 is more than 8GB while fifa11 is less than 6.5GB..... easports has done a good job on compression files now.

 

[persian52]

Totally Agree. Fifa 10 is a SHAME. Poor, Easy and Stupid Arcade.
Fifa 11 is Absolutely Great!!! The Day and The Night.
Cheers

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one thing i noticed is the size of the files. fifa10 is more than 8GB while fifa11 is less than 6.5GB..... easports has done a good job on compression files now.

that's a good thing!

 

[arkapd]

When you are comparing default installed versions of Fifa 10 and Fifa 11 (PC versions), Fifa 11 is light years ahead (no doubt).

But that does not mean Fifa 11 is the ultimate soccer gaming experience on PC. Yes, graphics are better, animations are better, default gameplay is better, many many things are better. The difference is not THAT HUGE when u compare a properly modded Fifa 10 and the current Fifa 11. After applying Duong's graphics and RegularCat/Onsche's ai files and emotion files (thanks to FifaiCttu and RC), Fifa 10 was very much enjoyable (I should not use "was" though). Add to that the moddability in terms of stadium adding, face modification, roster modification etc, the great tools like CM10 FM10 etc.

Fifa 11 is being worked on by the modders for about a month or more, but it is still not clear whether Fifa 11 will be even 50% as moddable as Fifa 10 was.

Surely there are many major glitches in Fifa 11, which needs to be sorted out immediately (like lagging problem for many users, Manager mode problems, weird generic faces to name a few), but if the game is not moddable as Fifa 10 was, I cannot say there is a difference of light years (or day and night) between a default Fifa 11 and a properly modded Fifa 10.

P.S. : Please dont mention that Fifa 11 PC is nothing but a rehashed Fifa 10 console, coz we are discussing about PC versions only, and majority of the users in this PC section play PC versions only. We should be happy that at last "NG version" has come in PC this year, and we are lucky to get two decent football games in PC this year. Its unfortunate that after getting NG version this year, people are still moaning about PP+ etc. What would have happended to u guys if EA had given a "CG" Fifa 11 (as it was for the last 3-4 years)?

 

[Champion757]

^I agree with arkapd's statement 100%. I do not like the heavy feeling of FIFA 11 compared to FIFA 10 PC. It seems that everything in FIFA 11 is a slow plodding experience. With a properly modded FIFA 10 PC, the game is full of technique and has a back and forth pace to it. I didn't feel as comfortable playing FIFA 11. FIFA 11 feels more clunky and sluggish compared to a modded FIFA 10 PC.

FIFA 10 PC was the last game based on the original FIFA 10 PS2 engine. The way in which the game was designed is day and night when you look at the engine that FIFA 10 PC is designed on compared to the engine that FIFA 11 was designed on. FIFA 11 is a much more basic engine. The graphics are more detailed, but the gameplay doesn't seem as versatile as the PC version of FIFA 10.

 

[Champion757]

Cool. Might be worth abandoning my FIFA 10 Roster project. No way I'm doing that in 11 without some help from the game itself, like I did with Madden.

Still might have to do a few roster tweaks, though. Most notably being the players who go by their nicknames. Back of the jersey is one thing, but for the name slot it's what your BC says...

Don't abandon your roster project for FIFA 10. What roster project was it by the way?

 

[Erevos]

When you are comparing default installed versions of Fifa 10 and Fifa 11 (PC versions), Fifa 11 is light years ahead (no doubt).

But that does not mean Fifa 11 is the ultimate soccer gaming experience on PC. Yes, graphics are better, animations are better, default gameplay is better, many many things are better. The difference is not THAT HUGE when u compare a properly modded Fifa 10 and the current Fifa 11. After applying Duong's graphics and RegularCat/Onsche's ai files and emotion files (thanks to FifaiCttu and RC), Fifa 10 was very much enjoyable (I should not use "was" though). Add to that the moddability in terms of stadium adding, face modification, roster modification etc, the great tools like CM10 FM10 etc.

Fifa 11 is being worked on by the modders for about a month or more, but it is still not clear whether Fifa 11 will be even 50% as moddable as Fifa 10 was.

Surely there are many major glitches in Fifa 11, which needs to be sorted out immediately (like lagging problem for many users, Manager mode problems, weird generic faces to name a few), but if the game is not moddable as Fifa 10 was, I cannot say there is a difference of light years (or day and night) between a default Fifa 11 and a properly modded Fifa 10.

P.S. : Please dont mention that Fifa 11 PC is nothing but a rehashed Fifa 10 console, coz we are discussing about PC versions only, and majority of the users in this PC section play PC versions only. We should be happy that at last "NG version" has come in PC this year, and we are lucky to get two decent football games in PC this year. Its unfortunate that after getting NG version this year, people are still moaning about PP+ etc. What would have happended to u guys if EA had given a "CG" Fifa 11 (as it was for the last 3-4 years)?

I dont know how much better was FIFA 10 with the mods, and its unfair to compare the modded FIFA 10 with the FIFA 11. a half month released game, and in this short time we already have the beta of DB Master 11 and the modding is near. And if you do compare them, the Gameplay the A.I. all the things that are happening in the field on a match, in FIFA 11 these things are superior...

When the base of a game, the default engine is bad (FIFA 10) you can just only cover the bad things, but when you have a good base (FIFA 11) then you can launch it to the stars with the mods

 

[arkapd]

I dont know how much better was FIFA 10 with the mods, and its unfair to compare the modded FIFA 10 with the FIFA 11. a half month released game, and in this short time we already have the beta of DB Master 11 and the modding is near. And if you do compare them, the Gameplay the A.I. all the things that are happening in the field on a match, in FIFA 11 these things are superior...

When the base of a game, the default engine is bad (FIFA 10) you can just only cover the bad things, but when you have a good base (FIFA 11) then you can launch it to the stars with the mods

I agree that the default engine of FIFA 10 was bad, but it was an evolution process starting from FIFA 06, and so modding tools were all the similar since 06 version. As days went, new things were "discovered" for modding different stuffs in FIFA 06-10. So it was possible to scale a bad game like FIFA 10 to something playable and enjoyable. If I am not wrong, the maximum number of mods that were released for any FIFA installment was during FIFA 10 (coz of maturity of editing tools and knowledge of the modders). Even I, as a non-modder, knew pretty much many things about the files of FIFA 10 and their nitty-grittys.

Now the situation is different. We really do not know whether we can edit the gameplay AI, whether we can edit the teams, players, tournaments, seasons etc, what is the limit of the number of leagues/teams/players in the game, whether we can add commentaries and chants, whether the annoying errors can really be fixed (like many Manager mode blunders, scoreboard fixes, weather effects etc). We do not even know if any editing of some part will hamper other parts of the game (i.e. leading to a new "bug").

To gain the maturity level of modding that was reached in the previous generation of FIFA series will require some time, and that may even cross 1 year (i.e. the next installment of FIFA may come up).

 

[Erevos]

inm possitive, i just saw that textures editor is out!

 

[MKDAWUSS]

Don't abandon your roster project for FIFA 10. What roster project was it by the way?

100% fictional players. I've done it for Madden 08 (PC), and it was a heck of a lot easier to do it on Madden than FIFA. For one, less teams in the NFL than in FIFA; another, one nationality to worry about; and also, the game would generate players with create-a-team, spawning players much faster than I ever could - it was then a simple process of 3rd partying them over to an actual NFL team FIFA 10 it's venture into CM, find an unused ID (there's a nice gap from 200000 to about 400000), determine what country he's from, find a name that you might see in that country, then randomize and tweak his features and stats.

Back when I first started doing some of the players (when I didn't realize about the ID gap), some of them collided with used IDs and wound up adopting the name that Clyde Tilsley would say when they got the ball (which was actually kind of nice - they end up rather mute without the real player reference).

The list of "finished teams"

FC Kaiserslautern
FC Köln
FC Nürnberg
FSV Mainz
1860
Ajax
Alemannia
Arsenal
Atalanta
Atlético Madrid
Barcelona
Barueri
Leverkusen
Bayern München
Birmingham City
Blackburn
Borussia Dortmund
Chelsea
Columbus
D.C.
Eintracht Frankfurt
England
Düsseldorf
Augsburg
Genoa
Germany
Hamburger SV
Hannover
Hertha
Houston
Hull City
Porto Alegre
Inter
Juventus
Los Angeles
Leeds
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
AC Milan
Napoli
Palermo
Portsmouth
PSG
PSV
Racing Club
Deportivo
RC Lens
Real Madrid
Roma
Freiburg
Slovenia
Seattle Sounders
Sparta Rotterdam
Tottenham
United States
Valencia
Valenciennes
Stuttgart
Werder Bremen
Wolverhampton

 

[kenzo]

cant wait for FIFA 12. :P

hoping EA fix all.
-the specs ( like PES can run whatever PC)
-cinematic
-tournament
-weather in manager mode


so, we all can enjoy it, no need to patch! hehe :P

 

[Tizzi]

I just baught the PC version of Fifa 11,and it’s incredible,accept for 1 thing,can anyone tell me,if you look on the cover of the FIFA 11 package or a screen shot of David villa,u will see he has the blue itunit boots,but when u play the game,he is wearing the purple f50 boots.harly any of the boots in screen shots are availble when u create a player.Can anyone tell me if i still have to unlock these boots or wats going on???rest of the game is amazing,EA REALLY WENT ALL OUT ON THIS.

Would apreciate if anyone can help me understand this situation about the boots.Cos in vertual pro there are round about 20 boots that are locked,but none of them are these blue itunit boots,or any nice boots.

PLease anyone HELP!!!!

 

[persian52]

I just baught the PC version of Fifa 11,and it’s incredible,accept for 1 thing,can anyone tell me,if you look on the cover of the FIFA 11 package or a screen shot of David villa,u will see he has the blue itunit boots,but when u play the game,he is wearing the purple f50 boots.harly any of the boots in screen shots are availble when u create a player.Can anyone tell me if i still have to unlock these boots or wats going on???rest of the game is amazing,EA REALLY WENT ALL OUT ON THIS.

Would apreciate if anyone can help me understand this situation about the boots.Cos in vertual pro there are round about 20 boots that are locked,but none of them are these blue itunit boots,or any nice boots.

PLease anyone HELP!!!!

Go to edit, find him ,then edited you ll find Tons of other Boots, that are unlocked already!

 

[fungus303]

I cant even compare FIFA 10 for PC with FIFA 11 for PC, FIFA 11 just kick ass

Of corse there is always something to whine about in all FIFA games

 

[The Doctor76]

I cant even compare FIFA 10 for PC with FIFA 11 for PC, FIFA 11 just kick ass

Of corse there is always something to whine about in all FIFA games

Not just in Fifa, but in all games. No such thing as a perfect game - even Fifa 10 'NG', with its 50 awards - picked up plenty of complaints.

Fifa 11 PC does indeed 'kick ass'!!