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FIFA 14 Better Career Patch

dalb2k

Youth Team
First, pls stop that offtopic talking !

huzzuk;3564710 said:
has the enquiry bug been fixed?

Yes, it is fixed.


Proceeded my career and can confirm the things i´ve mentioned before.

Youthplayers overall is too low. (Maybe because im playing a lower league team ?)

Unrealistic transfers happening. Teams give away their potential/perspective players without any need. (unrealistic, because they give them away to teams rated lower then themself)
 

beta990

Reserve Team
Fifamonkey2012;3564459 said:
hehe, I can agree that its nice to be able to have nothing at all here :)
In every FIFA game I just really like the music. :)
bulkan;3564535 said:

2 - You don't have to delete any file on your documents.
Just you have to start a new career to see the career mode tweaks. bcoz this tweak doesn't affect to your exist career.
Thanks bulkan for pointing this out. I've done some testing, it seems that deleting the Documents files is only necessary when changing the settings.txt file (at the moment not used).
bulkan;3564553 said:
You have to make some changes on 2 parameters;

[LOCALE]
LEGAL_SCREEN_DISPLAY_TIME=0
USE_LANGUAGE_SELECT = 5
PUBLISHING_REGION = EU
DEFAULT_LANGUAGE = spa,es
AVAILABLE_LANG_1 = eng,us
AVAILABLE_LANG_2 = fre,fr
AVAILABLE_LANG_3 = ita,it
AVAILABLE_LANG_4 = ger,de
AVAILABLE_LANG_5 = spa,es
AVAILABLE_LANG_6 = cze,cz
AVAILABLE_LANG_7 = *,hu
AVAILABLE_LANG_8 = pol,pl
AVAILABLE_LANG_9 = rus,ru

then save it & regenerate. done.
Thanks for the info, I didn't give any. :P

I'm using the (custom) rna.ini so I can use Europe settings on an English locale (Meters, Euro's, etc.). I don't like the Dutch commentators, English is the best one.
Fifamonkey2012;3564685 said:
Purchase the game and dont use a pirate cracked version :yc:
I agree. Their is also no support (here on this forum) for pirate versions. Again, 30 euros is not that much of money. Even when you consider you get (squad) updates and you don't have to work with a crappy version.

But please don't discuss here, bit off-topic. :P
huzzuk;3564710 said:
has the enquiry bug been fixed?
Yes, it has been fixed. :)

fifaCCitiu.com;3562401 said:
I'll add these lines about product.ini affecting the career mode.
When you play the career mode you will notice that strong teams are much stronger in career mode than friendly mode, as weak teams are weaker in career mode than friendly.
Now you can edit this behaviour with this code.Is commented by EA so it is easy to understand:
Code:
[CAREER_MODE]
..
Thanks fifaCCitiu for pointing me to this. I tested it (they can also be found in the full game) and this made a differences. Now I can also win from lower teams and my deference & goalkeeper know how to stop goals from flying in now.. :P
 

pedrito79

Youth Team
Hi Beta,I hope u can help me,I noticed when I do a career the cpu team does a formation not good,for example I played versus Juventus and in formation there was Pepe, padoin etc,while in beach Pirlo Liechesteier etc,I checked the stamina of theese players but it was all green. Is there a method that the CPU formation can stay in default?TY.
 

dalb2k

Youth Team
@beta990

beta990;3564719 said:
I will try to set the player values more on the remaining contract length. I don't want to lower it to much, because high (potential) players will move to easier to another club.

Yes, diff. between clubs is set to max 60%. So the buying team should be in that range. It can however be tweaked lower, so that low teams doesn't lose their (best) players. But unfortunately this is also happening in the 'real world'.

That's a good point. Will try to see if this can be realized. However it's not only the player who decides, in FIFA (14) is more a club than player decision.

Your settings are already fine, so dont waste much time on this. I know that it is more a team decision. On vanilla you can see how good players, dont change their team for years, just because no other team tried to buy them.

beta990;3564719 said:
Yes, it was better before. I'm having the same issue here. Will increase their max grown in youth team value. :)

Yes, pls. I will not continue my career because of this. I just love good youth players ;)

beta990;3564719 said:
What scouting do you mean? In the global marked or youth scouting? :)

Actually global market as well as youth scouting. Never seen a brasilian scout in my careers for example.

beta990;3564719 said:
Will try to get this tweaked. However I think database editing is needed.

What exactly would you tweak? (which table?) I´ve edited my db a little to put up some potentials.

beta990;3564719 said:
Well, you know Chelsea is a selling/buying club? And you also know that clubs in Italia play with older player ages? :P

Will be added to the todo list. :)

Haha, this was a good one ;)
You know, i was not only wondering about juve giving him away, it was more like, why Sevilla ? I think i will edit the transfer budget for some teams in my db, as fifa just messed it up.

beta990;3564719 said:
Thanks for you great input! You give me a lot of good and helpful information. By this I can improve the tweaks even more. :D

Keep up the good work. :)

I am glad you share your work with us. If you need someone to test anything, im your man ;)
 

beta990

Reserve Team
dalb2k;3564747 said:
@beta990
I am glad you share your work with us. If you need someone to test anything, im your man ;)
Thanks dalb2k for offering testing!

It would be great if you would test V2_RC1 for me: http://www.mediafire.com/?w61ztkqf1t6d8ru

Focus fields:
- Player values a little bit tweaked (e.g. contract/potential/age)
- In game (better gameplay/again changed some 'cheats')
- Player fitness
- Transfer changes: player will move (more) to higher league/team, team budgets, etc.
- Player Retirement increased to 38
- Higher player growth
- Scouting changes (also changed player max. peak level)
And more values I'm forgetting..

It would be nice if you (guys/girls) could give me a report about things you like and hate. :)

Remember that this is a testing version, bugs can occur!
 

pedrito79

Youth Team
pedrito79;3564740 said:
Hi Beta,I hope u can help me,I noticed when I do a career the cpu team does a formation not good,for example I played versus Juventus and in formation there was Pepe, padoin etc,while in beach Pirlo Liechesteier etc,I checked the stamina of theese players but it was all green. Is there a method that the CPU formation can stay in default?TY.

Up for Beta,I think u miss the message.

I have another problem whit my db Beta,All defenders cost very low ,for example chiellini value 550k etc,How can I raise his value?I have this problem only for defender because I did change their vaues in db.TY.
 

beta990

Reserve Team
pedrito79;3564808 said:
Up for Beta,I think u miss the message.

I have another problem whit my db Beta,All defenders cost very low ,for example chiellini value 550k etc,How can I raise his value?I have this problem only for defender because I did change their vaues in db.TY.
Sorry pedrito79, indeed misses your post. :)

Hmm, in what season are you playing? Defender values are lower than attackers, but if things are to low.. Are you playing with V2_RC1 or with V1?

Thanks.
 

pedrito79

Youth Team
beta990;3564820 said:
Sorry pedrito79, indeed misses your post. :)

Hmm, in what season are you playing? Defender values are lower than attackers, but if things are to low.. Are you playing with V2_RC1 or with V1?

Thanks.

Hi beta,I am plaing whit my db ,not whit the EA default db.So for example The maximus value Standing Tackle is for a top defender is 49 ,for this I have Chiellini o Bonucci very low price. I do so to have more fouls in game.So whit your files as playersvalue and playerwage is all busted,

what can u say me about ideal formation in career mode? the Question up.thanks very much
 

demiurgous

Club Supporter
Hi beta, 1st of all i would like to thank you for your incredible work, now the career mode is almost perfect!

Just one question, there's only one point in which our tastes are different, and i would like to re-introduce the news about other matches during my game:

- Complete disabled Radio! (Do you also 'hate' the guy that talks about matches when you wanted to listen to the music?)


What can i do?
 

Fifamonkey2012

Reserve Team
Its posted on previous page but within many replies to put radio reports back:

just remove/don't use scripts/radio.lua. In cmsettings.ini their is also a value that needs to be changed back to 1 rather than 0 (PLAY_RADIO_ON_SIM = 1).

Beta maybe this could be put in the readme/first post?
 

dalb2k

Youth Team
beta990;3564799 said:
Thanks dalb2k for offering testing!

It would be great if you would test V2_RC1 for me: http://www.mediafire.com/?w61ztkqf1t6d8ru
...

So after testing V2_RC1 a few hours, this is my feedback:


beta990;3564799 said:
- Player values a little bit tweaked (e.g. contract/potential/age)
Player values are so far ok. I will explain with samples, what is not working so well atm:

-Draxler from Schalke begins with 80ovr and has 90 potential (my tweaked db) and developed as following
Summer 13/14 - 19 age - 80 ovr - €13.500.000 - Schalke wanted something around €30.000.000 - €35.000.000 ->ok
Winter 13/14 - 20 age - 81 ovr - €16.500.000 - still Schalke was calling a price of ~+ €40.000.000 -> ok
Summer 14/15 - 20 age - 86 ovr - €45.000.000 - now Schalke goes crazy and wants to see €95.000.000 from me and even rejected offers around €80.000.000. (i think €65.000.000 would be right)

Though his growth was way too fast (i will come to this later), i still think he is a little bit overpriced. Of course we see Real paying over €90.000.000 for a player worth the half of it, but i think such crazy transfers are reserved for Real only ;)

It´s like player with overall over 85 are a little bit too high rated. Considering clubs will mostly ask about 80-100% above the market value, there are too many transfers over €50.000.000 going on.

You could also increase the values for CB and RB/LB and decrease for CAM a little.
Maybe tweak the ratingrange, position, age & contract values in playersvalues.ini. ?

I also found out, that playerwages are controlled too much by teamprestige. Signing the same player for two different teams (once low team and then a top team), the requested fee can vary a lot.

For low team, player asked €5.000/week, while with the top team, he asked for €35.000. Difference is too big !

beta990;3564799 said:
- In game (better gameplay/again changed some 'cheats')

To be honest, it is hard to recognize those changes. Especially as im still trying to find the right slider settings for me. Maybe you want to share your sliders with us ?

beta990;3564799 said:
- Player fitness

Dont take me wrong, but im not a big fan of this fitness model. Just because of the simple fact, that the gameplan in fifa is so f*****g messed up. If only two days between matchdays, my whole team is in the yellow area of their fitness,.....except of the gk and players with fitness over 84.

beta990;3564799 said:
- Transfer changes: player will move (more) to higher league/team, team budgets, etc.

I think unrealistic transfers are fixed so far. Still some transfers happening i didn´t expect. Suarez moved to BVB and Özil moved to Man City after 6 months at arsenal :confused2:. Suarez went for €55.000.000, while Özil moved for €68.000.000, which is okay.

Team budgets are confusing. Starting with budget of €55.000.000, ending the season with a budget of €90.000.000 i dont really understand, why i get only €40.000.000 for the next year.

Dont know how it works with CPU budget. At the beginning some medium teams are surprising with doing some good and expensive transfers, but after some years, it seems their budget gets too low and they are not so active on transfer market anymore. Is this possible?

An other strange thing i found, is that topteams are obviously collecting players. They dont get rid off, their old players, or players they dont need. Instead they proceed to buy every year some new players. So after some seasons they have mostly about 35 players. Maybe increase again the chance of lower teams buying from higher teams?

beta990;3564799 said:
- Player Retirement increased to 38

Player Retirement is a little bit buggy.
Goalkeepers retire too late (average is 38, but should be 36). Generally the average retirement age is a little bit too high. Went up to something like 35 instead of 33.

Some examples:

Ferdinand - 38
Vidic - 36
Ashley Cole - 34
Evra - 35
Terry - 36
Fletcher - 32
Ribery - 35 (81ovr at the end)
Lahm - 36 (79ovr at the end)
Z. Ibrahimovic - 34
Hildebrand - 40 (wasn´t even playing the last 2 years)
Pinto - 41
Valdes - 37
Casillas - 38

On the other hand, there are some players retire way too early.

Rafinha - 29
Fuchs - 29
And an other player, i can´t remember the name, retired at the same age.
Also interesting, that all 3 players are wing backs.

beta990;3564799 said:
- Higher player growth

It´s too much.

Some players grow 6-8 points within one season, while others if at all only one point.
For youth players it´s ok, but i think a growth of 4 points a season is enough.

Young goalkeepers grow very slow.

Edit: Compared to your official release before, i didn´t saw older player getting positive growth any more. Negative growth takes overhand and players loose 2 points per season, even playing a lot of matches.

beta990;3564799 said:
- Scouting changes (also changed player max. peak level)

Way better then before.

They still have sometimes very low values, when they arrive at my youth squad. After some months in my youth squad their ratings go high up, so if i sign them after an year or two, they start with an overall around 66-69.
It is just strange, that it doesnt matter how old the players are. So it doesnt make any difference, if the player is 16 or 18, when he arrives at my youth squad. After two years, they will start with the same overall. Hope you know, what i mean.

Didn´t managed to find a player with overall over 70 till yet. Except from an 14year old player in my youth squad. But who knows, how many times his ratings will change.

Unfortunetaly still no scouts from Spain/England/Italy/Brazil for my Bundesliga team ;)


Sorry for so much text, but i have problems to keep it short in english :confused2:
I really appreciate your work and pls keep in mind, that some things i´ve mentioned above reflect my personal opinion.

I can´t await to play some day a career with gameplayzer from fifacittiu and your final career files.
This will be awesome. Of course i hope we won´t face any compatibility problems.

Edit:
What im really missing for a perfect career mode is the FIFA Club World Cup.
 

calilassad

Club Supporter
edit career mode overall

I wonder how to edit the player in career mode player, wanted to edit the skills to kick 99 overall putting them among others, someone some health editor for this.

player career mode
 

beta990

Reserve Team
dalb2k;3564981 said:
So after testing V2_RC1 a few hours, this is my feedback:



Player values are so far ok. I will explain with samples, what is not working so well atm:

-Draxler from Schalke begins with 80ovr and has 90 potential (my tweaked db) and developed as following
Summer 13/14 - 19 age - 80 ovr - €13.500.000 - Schalke wanted something around €30.000.000 - €35.000.000 ->ok
Winter 13/14 - 20 age - 81 ovr - €16.500.000 - still Schalke was calling a price of ~+ €40.000.000 -> ok
Summer 14/15 - 20 age - 86 ovr - €45.000.000 - now Schalke goes crazy and wants to see €95.000.000 from me and even rejected offers around €80.000.000. (i think €65.000.000 would be right)

Though his growth was way too fast (i will come to this later), i still think he is a little bit overpriced. Of course we see Real paying over €90.000.000 for a player worth the half of it, but i think such crazy transfers are reserved for Real only ;)

It´s like player with overall over 85 are a little bit too high rated. Considering clubs will mostly ask about 80-100% above the market value, there are too many transfers over €50.000.000 going on.

You could also increase the values for CB and RB/LB and decrease for CAM a little.
Maybe tweak the ratingrange, position, age & contract values in playersvalues.ini. ?

I also found out, that playerwages are controlled too much by teamprestige. Signing the same player for two different teams (once low team and then a top team), the requested fee can vary a lot.

For low team, player asked €5.000/week, while with the top team, he asked for €35.000. Difference is too big !



To be honest, it is hard to recognize those changes. Especially as im still trying to find the right slider settings for me. Maybe you want to share your sliders with us ?



Dont take me wrong, but im not a big fan of this fitness model. Just because of the simple fact, that the gameplan in fifa is so f*****g messed up. If only two days between matchdays, my whole team is in the yellow area of their fitness,.....except of the gk and players with fitness over 84.



I think unrealistic transfers are fixed so far. Still some transfers happening i didn´t expect. Suarez moved to BVB and Özil moved to Man City after 6 months at arsenal :confused2:. Suarez went for €55.000.000, while Özil moved for €68.000.000, which is okay.

Team budgets are confusing. Starting with budget of €55.000.000, ending the season with a budget of €90.000.000 i dont really understand, why i get only €40.000.000 for the next year.

Dont know how it works with CPU budget. At the beginning some medium teams are surprising with doing some good and expensive transfers, but after some years, it seems their budget gets too low and they are not so active on transfer market anymore. Is this possible?

An other strange thing i found, is that topteams are obviously collecting players. They dont get rid off, their old players, or players they dont need. Instead they proceed to buy every year some new players. So after some seasons they have mostly about 35 players. Maybe increase again the chance of lower teams buying from higher teams?



Player Retirement is a little bit buggy.
Goalkeepers retire too late (average is 38, but should be 36). Generally the average retirement age is a little bit too high. Went up to something like 35 instead of 33.

Some examples:

Ferdinand - 38
Vidic - 36
Ashley Cole - 34
Evra - 35
Terry - 36
Fletcher - 32
Ribery - 35 (81ovr at the end)
Lahm - 36 (79ovr at the end)
Z. Ibrahimovic - 34
Hildebrand - 40 (wasn´t even playing the last 2 years)
Pinto - 41
Valdes - 37
Casillas - 38

On the other hand, there are some players retire way too early.

Rafinha - 29
Fuchs - 29
And an other player, i can´t remember the name, retired at the same age.
Also interesting, that all 3 players are wing backs.



It´s too much.

Some players grow 6-8 points within one season, while others if at all only one point.
For youth players it´s ok, but i think a growth of 4 points a season is enough.

Young goalkeepers grow very slow.

Edit: Compared to your official release before, i didn´t saw older player getting positive growth any more. Negative growth takes overhand and players loose 2 points per season, even playing a lot of matches.



Way better then before.

They still have sometimes very low values, when they arrive at my youth squad. After some months in my youth squad their ratings go high up, so if i sign them after an year or two, they start with an overall around 66-69.
It is just strange, that it doesnt matter how old the players are. So it doesnt make any difference, if the player is 16 or 18, when he arrives at my youth squad. After two years, they will start with the same overall. Hope you know, what i mean.

Didn´t managed to find a player with overall over 70 till yet. Except from an 14year old player in my youth squad. But who knows, how many times his ratings will change.

Unfortunetaly still no scouts from Spain/England/Italy/Brazil for my Bundesliga team ;)


Sorry for so much text, but i have problems to keep it short in english :confused2:
I really appreciate your work and pls keep in mind, that some things i´ve mentioned above reflect my personal opinion.

I can´t await to play some day a career with gameplayzer from fifacittiu and your final career files.
This will be awesome. Of course i hope we won´t face any compatibility problems.

Edit:
What im really missing for a perfect career mode is the FIFA Club World Cup.
Thanks dalb2k for your great input as always!

I'm currently looking at these issues and will try to release a V2_RC2 today or tomorrow.

Be sure to check out this post, because I will update this when I need more info! :)
 

pepfs

Club Supporter
This will sound really stupid but how do I even know if the patch is active...?

Edit: Messi sells for $ 109,000,000.- in the first season, yet I do not know this is a legit number or this is because of your patch. Maybe you can determine wether your patch is active yes/no by looking at that number lol.
 

Fifamonkey2012

Reserve Team
Simplest way, when you exit a game, do you hear after game reports of match results? If you never do, its active :)

Make sure you place files in correct dlc location and use Iards regen, BFL's seems to ignore these files on regen.
 

pepfs

Club Supporter
Fifamonkey2012;3565168 said:
Simplest way, when you exit a game, do you hear after game reports of match results? If you never do, its active :)

Make sure you place files in correct dlc location and use Iards regen, BFL's seems to ignore these files on regen.

Ah of course, the comments at the end.. Forgot about those. I regened with the generator also used in FIFA13 so thats ok (the one in first post here). Lol I tried so many things, including loaning players out but I just couldn't figure out if the mod was active, I'll get back to u ty.

Edit: got it working, did a fresh install besides numerous other attempts. Think that is what solved it. 66kk for Neymar, sounds like a deal ^^.

Ty.
 

pepfs

Club Supporter
I'm still getting a lot of quick throw-ins, my players tire at amazing rates (whilst opponents are still fit, giving kind of bizarre and unfair situations), not really sure if this patch was meant for low star teams like Wolverhampton

Edit:

Can u just edit the .ini's and regenerate and they will take effect in the game?
 

calilassad

Club Supporter
help me pliz

I wonder how to edit the player in career mode player, wanted to edit the skills to kick 99 overall putting them among others, someone some health editor for this.

player career mode
 


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