FIFA 2005 Career Customizer

[Mighty Tiger]

I don't know why people are finding this such a hard thing to work out - In time you should be able to manage/play for the team of your choice but when you start off its like anything, you just won't/shouldn't start from the top and stay there.

Sure the 1st season might be boring however it is a 15yr career mode and things do take time even on a game style situation such as this.

 

[Eire2k6]

anything self-extracting that does not have one of the extensions that outlook refuses to pass. i know zip works.

thanks

 

[Eire2k6]

problem is, career mode being what it is, players get better, get worse, retire, etc - both on your favorite team and on its rivals. so if you wait a year or two you might find your team a bit different.

i once got to the rovers after two or three years waiting, only to find no dickov up front, and no friedel in goal anymore, and no keane to play against at man-u, etcetera, and all the players were either a bit better or a bit worse in odd ways.

it isn't the wait per se, it just is not the same.

a big marketing mistake by EA if you ask me. i paid for the game, why the heck can't i friggin do what i want with it?
:-puke:

 

[Eire2k6]

Stop Presses - Career Mode Hack!!!

I did it! You can indeed start from year one in the EPL with the team of your choice! Or as many upgrade points as you like.

I only tried it with the first manager that pops up, didn't even change his name, but I suspect it would work no matter what you did for name or even picture.

(ed - yes, it does)

Here is what I did to the database.

table_team_manager

under the record beginning with manager_id = 0

set team_id and prev_team_id both = 3
this gave me Everton in EPL, and congratulated me on being hired back.

(ed - you only need to set team_id, and for how the team_id codes work different from the rest of the db see further down this thread - basically 0-1-2-3 here is team id's 1-3-5-7 from the rest of the db and I have no clue yet how to get an even-numbered team)

set upgrade_(whatever) = however upgrade points you want in each category

(on a scale of 0-125 for 0-10 stars, or 0.08 stars - 8 actual upgrade points - per point, otherwise it wraps around modulus-style)

note a couple things I tried did not work in this, these are the only fields I found that did anything constructive and when I for instance tried to set my season_count to 1 I started in the post-season screen.

Also, team_id 3 is supposed to be Blackburn Rovers (well, actually, I know it is) but I got Everton (id=7) doing this.

So someone creative can maybe figure out the relation between the entry here and the team_id.

But we're there mates!

 

[Mighty Tiger]

Originally posted by Eire2k6
problem is, career mode being what it is, players get better, get worse, retire, etc - both on your favorite team and on its rivals. so if you wait a year or two you might find your team a bit different.

i once got to the rovers after two or three years waiting, only to find no dickov up front, and no friedel in goal anymore, and no keane to play against at man-u, etcetera, and all the players were either a bit better or a bit worse in odd ways.

it isn't the wait per se, it just is not the same.

a big marketing mistake by EA if you ask me. i paid for the game, why the heck can't i friggin do what i want with it?
:-puke:

I see your point. I think what really would be best is if you had the standard EA career mode like we do already and then had the option for a Customised Career mode which is played along the same lines just you choose your team then should please everyone

 

[Mighty Tiger]

What did Team Id 7 make avaliable?

 

[Eire2k6]

team = 0 is Arsenal (team_id = 1 in the rest of the db)
team = 1 is Blackburn (team_id = 3 in the rest of the db)
team = 3 is Everton (team_id = 7 in the rest of the db)

bear in mind when trying to figure a pattern that computers sometimes start at 0 instead of 1 and that there is no team_id = 6 team. but I am still mystified, and delerious because there are the Rovers!

every 10 points in upgrade_* is 80 upgrade points (0.8 stars)

i think the generic upgrade points at the start of the record is for your upgrade point "bank" and there may be a limit there (100?) but you can take each indivdual upgrade coach all the way up (10 stars = 125 I suppose) this way (with corresponding lack of fun in the game kind of)

still, the way i see it the suspension of reality for anyone being hired as even Cheltenham Town's manager is so ridiculous one might as well start out as Arsenal's, and if you are going to presume "well you have a low-level career before this" then you might as well presume part of that is the league 2 etc.

 

[Chacarita Juniors]

for my upcoming coaching season (like in 3 months when i get done with my current season)...i might try to hack the team by subbing in the crappy players and i will probably get to start of with UNAM....

...but dropping a team into lower divisions is just wrong, and even if i could do it (i play on ps2)...i wouldnt do it.

...i've already planned this for my next coaching season:

i will create Pele, Maradona, and Gil Ambriz...my self...RATINGS: (Pele; 17 years old; *89rating) (Maradona; 16 years old; *88rating) (Gil Ambriz; 18 years old; *84rating)

1. name of coach: Hugo Sanchez
2. 1st team=UNAM 2nd team=Santos (brazil) 3rd team=Madrid
...after i've been with Madrid for 2 seasons...i will take a journey through: A.C. Milan OR Juve...Bayer Munich...Arsenal...Monaco...maybe FC Porto...and finish it off with Madrid ...just so i can unlock all the 3rd jerseys & Colina...and maybe some balls
3. by this time...Fifa 2006 should be knocking at the door

...it seems so far away, i'm only in my 7th season with my first coach

 

[rob_illinois]

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[Rochester Rhino]

Originally posted by Eire2k6
team = 0 is Arsenal (team_id = 1 in the rest of the db)
team = 1 is Blackburn (team_id = 3 in the rest of the db)
team = 3 is Everton (team_id = 7 in the rest of the db)

i guessing it goes something like this

team = 0 is Arsenal (team_id = 1 in the rest of the db)
team = 1 is Blackburn (team_id = 3 in the rest of the db)
team = 2 is ????? (team_id = 5 in the rest of the db)
team = 3 is Everton (team_id = 7 in the rest of the db)
team = 4 is ????? (team_id = 9 in the rest of the db)
team = 5 is ????? (team_id = 11 in the rest of the db)

 

[Phoenix]

Sounds like the community is making progress. I might ditch FM2005 for a while once it's all been worked out.

 

[Eire2k6]

Okay, anyone have an idea if this sequence really holds? If so, how do you get even-numbered teams?

 

[Eire2k6]

OT reply: I s/b getting FM-2k5 in a few days, can't wait to start managing Cork City since apparently EA decided not to include Ireland, Wales, Uruguay or Argentina and FM-2k5 even has the Irish lower division league. If I can figure out how to do kits there is probably enough player data in FM-2k5 to make a FIFA Eircom patch, by about the time FIFA-2k6 comes out.

 

[Eire2k6]

Okay folks, I think the pattern holds. I tried team=2 and it is indeed Chelsea (team_id=5). So that is team_id's 1-3-5-7 for team=0-1-2-3. The fact that there is no team_id 6 doesn't appear to matter at all. Probably freak your program out if put in a team that does not exist in the db.

You also only need to actually edit 1 field, the table_team_manager field called team_id in the rocord for the first manager. It still thinks you are hiring back in.

So this becomes a very, very simple edit.

btw if you need a list of team_id's for the bulk of the database I got mine off Paul Applegate's Team Creation Tutorial page on disciplenations. Like most of the database stuff, it now resides in a very handy excel spreadhseet I made up.

And it appears the upgrade points scale is correct, 0-125 for 0-10 stars (0-1000 actual points or 8 actual points, 0.08 stars, per database point).

Now the huge looming question is - what the heck do you do to get even-numbered teams?

 

[Eire2k6]

Well, tried team -2 just for the heck of it (figured -1 was the default and non-negative small integers yield positive odd integers, so maybe negative integers are even integers).

Crash and burn, it is the probably the result when you put a team not in the game. As soon as you go into the team selection screen from your region (at least for region 1) the program crashes back to windows.

So, must be something else. I suspect there is some "magic number" (no, wait, that's :drevil: magic number) above which you start at team 2, 4, 6 (empty), 8, 10... etcetera.

By an odd coincidence, however, most of the real popular teams seem to be odd numbers.

 

[Eire2k6]

Tried some more stuff...

The highest-numbered even-odd pair in the game are:

Cesena is team_id 110915 in most of the databse which should correspond to team_id 55457 for this field.
(pretty sure this works, I tried a number as high as the one for Gremio just to test it, across regions and everything, hasn't failed yet)
Sinaloa is team_id 111032 in most of the databse which is still to be determined for this field.

(don't know anything off-hand about these teams or if they national teams or rest-of-wrold or teams you can select)

The first few (EPL) even-numbered teams in the game are

Aston Villa = 2
Bolton Wanderers = 4
Leeds United = 8
Manchester City = 10
Middlesbrough = 12
Nottm Forest = 14
Tottenham Hotspur = 18

So just on a lark I figured 55457 is pretty close to 65536 which is 2^16.
So I tried 65537, figuring 65535 would get the highest odd team, 65536 team 0 (non-existent) and 65537 team 2 (Aston Villa) or at least team 4 (Bolton) if I am wrong about the 0.

Well, no joy yet, another crash and burn with a non-existent team slot.

So still searching for the even-numbered team solution.

any bright ideas? anyone already cracked this long ago?

 

[Eire2k6]

Okay, the team_id for this works in a modulus fashion like the upgrade points did.

The modulo is 268435456, or 2^28. Any multiple of this number gives you Arsenal (team_id 1 normally). I only tried a couple, but I suspect any multiple of this number, then add 1, gives you Blackburn (team_id 3 normally). And while I haven't tried any other offsets with any base except 0, I am also pretty sure add 2 still gives id 5, add 3 still gives id 7, etcetera.

You can go all the way as low as negative 2^31, but UniDB will give you an overflow if go even with a few of positive 2^31. Not sure what upper limit is before the overflow - would've assumed 2^31-1 but not so.

However, none of this has revealed what I am looking for, a number, even one, which selects an even-number team_id, for any of the teams with even numbers.

Without that bit of dumb luck half the teams in the database will remain unplayable at start.

Anyone have a friend at EA to ask?

 

[UCLANUPE]

Hey guys. I am new to this forum but not to editing games.

There is a relativly simple way to Manage ANY team you want from the very start of your career. The only caveat is that you have to start the team in the lowest divsion.

Example: I was able to move Roma from Serie A to B and manage them from the start. You'll need Blueshell Data guy and UniDB to do it. All you have to do is switch the Roma teamid with that of the serie B team you want to swap up in the leagueteamslinks db and the rtsg db. You can also easliy change the stadium the side plays its games in the stadiums db.

So you'll play one serie B season and then move up to serie A after one good season.

 

[Eire2k6]

But you no longer need to relegate, and in fact the new manager db change is much simpler _not_ to (only required changing 1 field of 1 record).

the relegation trick one was about two pages ago...


Relegation is just not the same not playing against the expected opposition (for me anyhow)

 

[UCLANUPE]

Well just one season simmed against the serie B teams plus the Coppa Nationale against the serie A teams is not a big deal. The bigger deal is EA not allowing you to play the thing the way you want from the start by making all this stuff optional.

BTW, the method stated two pages ago is the long way, I was talking about a MUCH shorter way to dothis by just changing two id's in two files