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FIFA Creation Studio 13

thebaddie

Fifa Baddie
regularcat;3341264 said:
my opinion is no gui for it, just make the tool calculate the amount of games so it automatically configures the advancement.

this could be ok for new simple tournaments but not for complex one and for existing tournaments is needed to be loaded anyway

jschuck12001;3341331 said:
I like the tree format Rinaldo used, I think it makes sense to everyone.

do you mean group ranking with button for each position?
 

thebaddie

Fifa Baddie
Currently Solution: Group Teams contains Advancements and Tasks (invisible values to distinguish between them)

 

skeptik

Reserve Team
If my understanding are correct, advancement.txt of FIFA 13 are similar to FIFA 12 version.

If that is the case, making an advancement is not that complex. Yes, Rinaldo's CM tournament UI is suitable for that. However, should you want to make it different, should be no problem.

Thebaddie, let me share my view
Advancement.txt has 4 columns
column 1 = wherefrom - competitionID referring to compid.txt
Column 2 = position of the team in the tournament, if not position, also can be call team no.
column 3 = whereto - it must go to what stage
column 4 = home or away of that stage.

For examples,
tournament with 32 teams, then it must have 32 teams no in column 2. but in FIFA 13, it use 0 which I believe means any team.

I can check more if you want by looking at what you're at now.
 

thebaddie

Fifa Baddie
skeptik;3341481 said:
If my understanding are correct, advancement.txt of FIFA 13 are similar to FIFA 12 version.

If that is the case, making an advancement is not that complex. Yes, Rinaldo's CM tournament UI is suitable for that. However, should you want to make it different, should be no problem.

Thebaddie, let me share my view
Advancement.txt has 4 columns
column 1 = wherefrom - competitionID referring to compid.txt
Column 2 = position of the team in the tournament, if not position, also can be call team no.
column 3 = whereto - it must go to what stage
column 4 = home or away of that stage.

For examples,
tournament with 32 teams, then it must have 32 teams no in column 2. but in FIFA 13, it use 0 which I believe means any team.

I can check more if you want by looking at what you're at now.

Partially correct, look at the picture in my previous post

in Group Teams you can see the position the team will have in the group (Semi Finals / G1, in Tournament Structure) and from where teams are picked (1st in Quarter match 1 and 1st in Quarter match 2)

So in Semifinals's match 1 teams are the winners of Quarter's match 1 and 2.

Insteed in Setup Stages teams are not picked from previous stages (advancement) but are picked from task (single teams, full leagues, max from tournaments and so on)

Same for leagues in witch they are picked from league (FillFromLeague)

But if you look at more complex tournaments things changes, like for Supercup in witch teams are picked from league and national cup, but if the winner of the league is the same as the national cup it picks the second classified; in situation like this you have to use tasks like FillFromCompTableBackupLeague.

FIFA 12/13 Tournaments structure is really flexible but complex, so Rinaldo's CM11 approch could just partially fit with FIFA 13 one, just for simplest league/cup format

I'm trying to keep all possibilities offered by FIFA 13 tournament structure, but i think that just medium/expert editers will be able to use it, cause they have to understand the complexity of the structure, when to use Setup Stages and how to use correct task. Maybe i'll add some premade structure to add new league/cup hoping to keep complexity down

P.S. btw skeptic i loved your work last year, send me a pm if you have a gmail/gtalk account
 

bangus

Starting XI
Just a thought, but wouldn't it make sense to focus on a basic editor and get that up and running, before adding all these complex features which -- in all honesty -- very few people are even going to use? How many people are going to use a tournament-creation function, let alone care about having such a wide variety of tourney setup options available? As I see it 90% of people are going to use the editor to import graphics, while 10% will want it for its player editing functionability.
 

thebaddie

Fifa Baddie
bangus;3341526 said:
Just a thought, but wouldn't it make sense to focus on a basic editor and get that up and running, before adding all these complex features which -- in all honesty -- very few people are even going to use? How many people are going to use a tournament-creation function, let alone care about having such a wide variety of tourney setup options available? As I see it 90% of people are going to use the editor to import graphics, while 10% will want it for its player editing functionability.

first of all this tool is intend for people who want to create medium to big patches.

btw the road map is to end closed beta testing on basic function to release it and, meanwhile, to work on new features like tournaments.
 

bangus

Starting XI
thebaddie;3341528 said:
first of all this tool is intend for people who want to create medium to big patches.

btw the road map is to end closed beta testing on basic function to release it and, meanwhile, to work on new features like tournaments.
Sounds good thanks, looking forward to the basic editor as I said. Just my two cents etc.
 

gonzaga

Reserve Team
It would be great if we can add new leagues and respectively add new participants in the european tournaments without messing up all scheme of the competitions.
 

barrie53

Youth Team
FIFA Creation Studio 13

Hi Baddie
Keep up the good work, I am looking forward to the ability to extend existing league structures and the creation of new ones. I have been struggling with this particular problem in FIFA 12 and have had some great assistance from Regularcat. But try as I may, I still cant get the additional leagues to be available in Career Mode.

Your Editing Program will make a life a lot simpler for people who want to customize their game.

Best Wishes
Barrie
 

MichaelCorleone

Youth Team
Just finished reading every single post from page 1 to 39. Have to say that impatient spamsters are really making life tough for others.

Thanks to Baddie for the Hope. And to the Moderators for keeping the dignity of the thread intact.

I am brand new to this whole editing stuff but I am learning fast. I would really have liked to contribute to this endeavor in a positive way. I'll do that by just avoiding the negative - i.e simply by being PATIENT and not making unnecessary posts. PATIENCE is the word.





;)
 

skeptik

Reserve Team
thebaddie;3341497 said:
Partially correct, look at the picture in my previous post

But if you look at more complex tournaments things changes, like for Supercup in witch teams are picked from league and national cup, but if the winner of the league is the same as the national cup it picks the second classified; in situation like this you have to use tasks like FillFromCompTableBackupLeague.

FIFA 12/13 Tournaments structure is really flexible but complex, so Rinaldo's CM11 approch could just partially fit with FIFA 13 one, just for simplest league/cup format

I'm trying to keep all possibilities offered by FIFA 13 tournament structure, but i think that just medium/expert editers will be able to use it, cause they have to understand the complexity of the structure, when to use Setup Stages and how to use correct task. Maybe i'll add some premade structure to add new league/cup hoping to keep complexity down

I proposed an advance editing mode be available via the Studio, to re-edit or polishing the tournament structure and save it directly to the related txt file.

P.S. btw skeptic i loved your work last year, send me a pm if you have a gmail/gtalk account

Thanks.
 

skeptik

Reserve Team
sepak;3341618 said:
@skeptik, sepak means football in malaysia?

Sepak in Malay language is kick. But football or soccer translated as bola sepak here in malaysia, while sepakbola in Indonesia.
 

jschuck12001

Senior Squad
thebaddie;3341408 said:
this could be ok for new simple tournaments but not for complex one and for existing tournaments is needed to be loaded anyway



do you mean group ranking with button for each position?

If you ever used CM11 or any CM prior to that version the tree format was used. I really cant say what people would on this board would feel is too complex, I dont think editing the tables is that complex but 99% of the people on this board do.
 

MichaelCorleone

Youth Team
regularcat;3341997 said:
what are you talking about, how does discussion in this thread have anything to do with what the baddie does ?

I know Baddie and some expert modders like you are working together. And I also see that you and keegan have to come up here again and again to set spamsters straight. I just requested everyone to chill down so that people like you are active in the development of the tool can focus on the development instead of bashing spamsters here.

This was what I meant to convey. May be it came through differently. Sorry but english is not even my 2nd language. Hope I have clarified my stance.
 

thebaddie

Fifa Baddie
Cave_Love;3342056 said:
Can we add or move international tournaments
from Career mode to normal tournament mode?

tournament mode and carrier mode works togheter, sharing same files. but for carrier mode you have to deal with id restriction
 


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