FIFA MASTER 08 - Development plan

bruce

Youth Team
Hmm about locking of CEP database, looks like Okham is punishing the whole world because of 1 guy who copywrited his work in FIFA 06. ROFL!!!

In my opinion, if one wants to make a patch, no matter how big it is, they should really spend time and passion to complete their work isn't it? For the CEP, like 1 of the member of the previous post said that some of the things are taken from previous FIFA game, thats ridiculous in the sense changing what is improved in the current FIFA game. Also in the CEP, i find that the front number for lots of international teams are missing and shorts number for lots of clubs and international team are also missing. Ever seen teams playing without front number (for international) and short number (for both international and clubs) on TV before? 1 last thing, the player numbers are all wrong!!!

So let me tell you this Okham. If you really want to make a patch, please complete and make a good patch if you got the time and passion. If not, den dont make that patch and release to people around the world, let others do the job instead. Unlike in FIFA 06, i can see that time and effort you had put in are too far from satisfaction. Hope you can put in more effort this time and PLEASE DONT GET STUFF FROM PREVIOUS FIFA GAME. That is not the way to make a good update. Hope that my words are fair to you and every FIFA gamers:)
 

Jomi

Reserve Team
StevePitts;2410628 said:
and as I've responded to his post, I don't think he's right, because we are talking about editing data and I don't see anything in CM that infringes on EA's IP in any meaningful way (though that's not to say that that would stop them sending 'cease and desist' notices, or even sending the boys round)

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I'm not an expert for copyrights but keep in mind that EA pay a lot of money to the different leagues and associations like Fifpro to have the right to use the proper names of the players, teams , equipment etc...it's not a free service...( PES for ex. did not buy the licence for certain leagues , that's why there are fake names in some leagues and teams )
so the database is also a sensitive case in a way ...For 2 years I think, a PES site was forced to remove all the patches dealing with the EPL because of the copyrights owned by the league itself...We live in a world ruled by internet and there is an army of lawyers ready to get in action to "protect" the rights of their clients...easy money to make ...
That's why I always laugh when I see the comments of some kitmakers for ex, ( this guy stole my collar, or he's copied my adidas stripes... ) Did they ask Nike, Adidas, Umbro etc.. to copy their logos or kits ?
so, to come back to the story, I think EA is just fair enough to let the game be edited ...It's a kind of gentlemen agreement...but it could come to an end too ( of course I hope not )
 

B9Goal

Senior Squad
StevePitts;2410628 said:
Assuming that it hasn't changed from the demo, then no (I don't have the game, and don't intend to drop thirty quid for a roster update and a handful of gameplay tweaks) but there are some significant changes to the player data that would require a major re-work of the attribute page.

I understand your point Steve. IF it's just attributes, then there really shouldn't be much work for Rinaldo to do. He could just release an updated CM 07 with FIFA 08 compatibility instead of wasting a lot of time and energy making a brand new CM tool. All I edited in FIFA 07 was attributes for certain players as well as adding players that were missing on certain teams.
 

leomessi77

Youth Team
Shame on you CM mate. The Lord will punish all the people that do something good for the others and then charges them for that good deed, including FIFA editors and "divas" face makers (not you Sebbe). It's in the big book mister!

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

BANG BANG BANG Rinaldo out of the game!! (only if he dont reconsider)
 

Rac3r

Club Supporter
For sure, this definitely deserves my first post.:taz:
I've been modding plenty of games lately, it's fun, I do it to cure boredom and get more from the game (BF2, GTA, COD, GTR2 and so on). People like Rinaldo keep me busy, keep my games playable. Hats off to the them talented guys.

How many hours do you think, it takes to create a tool that works perfect?
Honestly, I don't know, but it must be ages.
Could we do any better?
I doubt it.
Would you pay for modding software?
Me? No! But many people will, leaving a lot of people, unable to mod. Kinda shady.
Does this tool need to be distributed to make money?
I doubt it, but money helps.
Is making money, off EA's game, legal?
I would say NO, but I could be wrong.
Is making money, off gamers like us, right?
Hell no.

Either way, he can do what he wants as far as I'm concerned. If he wants to make money, let him try. Just check google daily, not everyone is a 'money grabbing [email protected]#&er".
Donate, Donate, Donate, Donate, Donate, Donate, Donate, Donate, Donate
 

Royce

Club Supporter
When is the damn thing going to be released already, pay or no pay I just want the software ASAP.
 

B9Goal

Senior Squad
Lack of patience

Royce;2411626 said:
When is the damn thing going to be released already, pay or no pay I just want the software ASAP.

That's just my point right there. A new game and everyone goes running to Rinaldo, Monkey Dragon, and other editors demanding the tools ASAP. Everyone is always rushing the editors to put out their tools or patches to a point where the editors either charges money for it or makes it to where you can't even modify a teams rating. :kader:

To be honest I don't care how long it takes Monkey Dragon, Esterry, OckHAM or Rinaldo to release their stuff. They can take their time as I'm still pretty entertained with FIFA 07. :hump:
 

lol15

Youth Team
Zefilio;2409343 said:
The cost of the license is 14 EUR! Lol you got to be kidding me... I bet the crackers are already sharpening their knives...
You are right. I'm sure, and I'm hope that someone will crack it. Unlucky, I dont know how to do it.

EDIT:
6) I have not any relationship with Fify Centrum. My pages will be hosted by sweetpatch.
You did not understand me. I just said about CF 'cause they did the same think like you will do. You had to pay for every SINGLE file from they site. But they have started to think, and make most of files "free to download". Anyway, I will not pay for any FIFA file. Thats all what I want to say. Cheers.
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
That's just my point right there. A new game and everyone goes running to Rinaldo, Monkey Dragon, and other editors demanding the tools ASAP. Everyone is always rushing the editors to put out their tools or patches to a point where the editors either charges money for it or makes it to where you can't even modify a teams rating.

To be honest I don't care how long it takes Monkey Dragon, Esterry, OckHAM or Rinaldo to release their stuff. They can take their time as I'm still pretty entertained with FIFA 07.

I agree here entirely. If '08 comes out in october, lets see if we can give Rinaldo at least 2 months to put it out and hope for the game by Xmas. If that's not enough time then we'll just wait a little longer, who really cares when we move over. FIFA '07 would have worked fine for us if we never heard of '08. Just stay with the old version until the editors are available. You won't be far behind.
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
Jomi;2410650 said:
a PES site was forced to remove all the patches dealing with the EPL because of the copyrights owned by the league itself...
I don't think that that is comparing 'like for like'. They may have had to remove content that was someone's IP, but no doubt not the editing tools that were used to make that content. The only path I could see for EA to build a genuine case would be over 'reverse engineering' but again I don't see that reverse engineering data formats can be considered illegal, so as long as the code itself hasn't been reverse engineered as part of decoding the data (and I know it isn't necessary to do so - I worked out all I know about the data structures by trial and error) then that approach has no merit. Doesn't stop them threatening, of course, which is generally the approach taken by large corporations that can afford teams of lawyers (and other bully boys)

Zefilio;2410918 said:
and I thought I was weird.
No matter how weird you think you are there is always going to be someone out there (especially on t'Interweb) that is more weird than you are ;)

Royce;2411626 said:
When is the damn thing going to be released already, pay or no pay I just want the software ASAP.
If you were Rinaldo would you respond to the opprobrium generated by this thread with a positive attitude towards producing new versions??
 

Royce

Club Supporter
StevePitts;2412622 said:
If you were Rinaldo would you respond to the opprobrium generated by this thread with a positive attitude towards producing new versions??

No, but I'd also consider the fact that this forum is also filled with a bunch of ungrateful little pricks.


No rush, I just want to be able to pay for this & start using this tremendous product as soon as humanly possible, FIFA08 is unplayable without it IMO.

Rinaldo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fifa:amika:
 

Zefilio

Red Card - Racist/Insulting Members [Life]
Life Ban
Royce;2412647 said:
No, but I'd also consider the fact that this forum is also filled with a bunch of ungrateful little pricks.


No rush, I just want to be able to pay for this & start using this tremendous product as soon as humanly possible, FIFA08 is unplayable without it IMO.

Rinaldo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fifa:amika:

The only little prick is you n00b, I've been reading your comments for a few day now, and I would seriously advise you shut the shiathole you have for a mouth son. If you would act like that on the street your face would hit the pavement real quick and you would shiat the awhole bunch of crap in your hippie flower pants, so now go eat your cornflakes or go suck mummies breasts and STFU, celtic assclown. Yeah, I'm pissed, Milan lost to the subhumans, so for the next three weeks the whole world can **** off.

RAAAGH, that relieves 1%. Good, now do you have any clue in your pee brain how long it takes to make an editing program? And you're already demanding one while Crap08 isn't even one week old. Woohoo, you are a cuckooooo!

Or you could learn it the hard way, get UniDB, Ms Access, FifaFS and get to work, or go to bed and zwijgen, stilte, silence, STOI! silencio, stai zitto! (and you get to save 14 bucks, which I'm sure for a rich boy like you will make no difference, but still, you can get a few fluo strings for that in the K-MArt I bet)
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
Royce;2412647 said:
No, but I'd also consider the fact that this forum is also filled with a bunch of ungrateful little pricks.


No rush, I just want to be able to pay for this & start using this tremendous product as soon as humanly possible, FIFA08 is unplayable without it IMO.

Rinaldo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fifa:amika:

You have no f*cking principles, a n00b such as yourself just wants a half-baked rushed and unfinished program ASAP ASAP, and you'd pay for it too (H)! Seriously, don't ruin it for the rest of us. :mad:

In fact you're the ungrateful one here, you don't seem to understand that it takes time to develop programs of Rinaldo's quality :p
 

Interista13

Starting XI
Zefilio;2412650 said:
The only little prick is you n00b, I've been reading your comments for a few day now, and I would seriously advise you shut the shiathole you have for a mouth son. If you would act like that on the street your face would hit the pavement real quick and you would shiat the awhole bunch of crap in your hippie flower pants, so now go eat your cornflakes or go suck mummies breasts and STFU, celtic assclown. Yeah, I'm pissed, Milan lost to the subhumans, so for the next three weeks the whole world can **** off.

RAAAGH, that relieves 1%. Good, now do you have any clue in your pee brain how long it takes to make an editing program? And you're already demanding one while Crap08 isn't even one week old. Woohoo, you are a cuckooooo!

Or you could learn it the hard way, get UniDB, Ms Access, FifaFS and get to work, or go to bed and zwijgen, stilte, silence, STOI! silencio, stai zitto! (and you get to save 14 bucks, which I'm sure for a rich boy like you will make no difference, but still, you can get a few fluo strings for that in the K-MArt I bet)

Hey mate, chill out. It's your own fault that you support one of the cruddiest teams at the moment. Take the hit little man!!! (Sorry to all the OTHER Milan fans) AC MILAN AIN'T GONNA DO ANYTHING THIS YEAR!! Biggest losers ever!!! MAUAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

Inter per sempre!!!! PAZZA INTER!!!!:rockman:
 


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