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Limitation in FIFA 10?

soccerlover1224

Club Supporter
Hi,

I downloaded and installed CEP 2010. Now I want to expand it via Creation Master 10. I want to create some more teams, stadiums, leagues and tournaments for all countries in the world. If you don't mind my asking, I have a few questions.

1) What is the limit for teams, stadiums, leagues and tournaments in FIFA 10? How many teams in maximum can be stored in FIFA 10?

2) How many stadiums in maximum can be stored in FIFA 10?

3) How many leagues in maximum can be stored in FIFA 10?

4) How many tournaments in maximum can be stored in FIFA 10?

Thanks for your help.
 

Champion757

Youth Team
soccerlover1224, great questions. I think I have the answer for you, as I found it out myself through some testing.

I don't think there's a specific limit to teams, stadiums, tournaments, or leagues. But there is a limit to how many additional files you can add to the zdatas. By this I mean, there's an overall limit to how many files you can add through zdatas. when you reach a certain point, fifa will give you an error when you try to start it. this happened to me a few months ago. when this happens, you won't be able to start fifa 10 until you delete some files from the zdata. (and regen through FM10)

so what i did was once I reached this limit, I started to go through the stadiums that weren't very good, and I deleted a few of them to get me under the limit. I got the stadium ids for those ones through CM10, once I got the stadium id of the stadium i needed to delete, I searched through all the zdatas for the stadium files that pertained to that stadium id through FM10. (each stadium file you add to the zdatas when you import a stadium via CM10 contains the stadium id in the filename)

so basically i deleted a bunch of stadiums that I didn't need to get me back under the limit so fifa 10 started. then i deleted the stadium listing from CM10. (don't delete the stadium from CM10 until you check what id it is so you can then find the files you need to delete in the zdatas to get your back under the limit)

I hope this answers your question because I was wondering this myself for a long time, and it wasn't until a few months ago that I reached the zdata file limit. each stadium you import contains many files so installing stadiums push you towards the limit faster then anything else I think.
 

trest

Youth Team
to understand how many things you can store in database use program dbmaster, open fifa.db and you'll see maximum value (i'm not sure about tournaments).
About graphic, i use unlimited fifa fat and i have really a lot of different graphic things.
 

Champion757

Youth Team
trest;3408393 said:
to understand how many things you can store in database use program dbmaster, open fifa.db and you'll see maximum value (i'm not sure about tournaments).
About graphic, i use unlimited fifa fat and i have really a lot of different graphic things.

but even if you have unlimited fifa fat, still eventually fifa 10 will not start when you add too many files to the zdatas right?
 

trest

Youth Team
Champion757;3408519 said:
but even if you have unlimited fifa fat, still eventually fifa 10 will not start when you add too many files to the zdatas right?
Yes, but it's much more than you can add to original fifa fat.
What's more, the game understands some graphic even if you just place it in root folder without putting it in zdatas. As far as i know it's possible for kits, logos, numbers and stadium graphic.
 

soccerlover1224

Club Supporter
Champion757;3407861 said:
soccerlover1224, great questions. I think I have the answer for you, as I found it out myself through some testing.

I don't think there's a specific limit to teams, stadiums, tournaments, or leagues. But there is a limit to how many additional files you can add to the zdatas. By this I mean, there's an overall limit to how many files you can add through zdatas. when you reach a certain point, fifa will give you an error when you try to start it. this happened to me a few months ago. when this happens, you won't be able to start fifa 10 until you delete some files from the zdata. (and regen through FM10)

so what i did was once I reached this limit, I started to go through the stadiums that weren't very good, and I deleted a few of them to get me under the limit. I got the stadium ids for those ones through CM10, once I got the stadium id of the stadium i needed to delete, I searched through all the zdatas for the stadium files that pertained to that stadium id through FM10. (each stadium file you add to the zdatas when you import a stadium via CM10 contains the stadium id in the filename)

so basically i deleted a bunch of stadiums that I didn't need to get me back under the limit so fifa 10 started. then i deleted the stadium listing from CM10. (don't delete the stadium from CM10 until you check what id it is so you can then find the files you need to delete in the zdatas to get your back under the limit)

I hope this answers your question because I was wondering this myself for a long time, and it wasn't until a few months ago that I reached the zdata file limit. each stadium you import contains many files so installing stadiums push you towards the limit faster then anything else I think.

so basically, what are the limits of teams, stadiums, leagues and tournaments that you found out back then? I need those numbers (even only approximate ones) so I can decide which items can be made and which ones can be ignored.

The CEP package has lack of many tournaments. I intend to create all leagues and tournaments, including different divisions, for all countries in the world (more than 200 sovereign states). In order to do this, I have to create many new teams and perhaps many new stadiums. I'm sorry if my requests annoyed you. I hope you don't mind give me the limit numbers, if you remember them.

ps: sorry for my English
 

Champion757

Youth Team
soccerlover1224;3409142 said:
so basically, what are the limits of teams, stadiums, leagues and tournaments that you found out back then? I need those numbers (even only approximate ones) so I can decide which items can be made and which ones can be ignored.

The CEP package has lack of many tournaments. I intend to create all leagues and tournaments, including different divisions, for all countries in the world (more than 200 sovereign states). In order to do this, I have to create many new teams and perhaps many new stadiums. I'm sorry if my requests annoyed you. I hope you don't mind give me the limit numbers, if you remember them.

ps: sorry for my English

I thought it is a great post. I just wanted to make you aware of the overall zdata file limit. I'd like to know if there is a way to increase that limit.

I didn't know there were specific limits for teams, stadiums, leagues and tournaments. i have about 350 stadiums installed, and only a handful of custom teams, tournaments and leagues and just recently reached the limit that caused fifa to not start. (not a CM10 limit, but a Fifa10.exe limit) i'm not sure if there's anything I can do to install more stadiums.

I'd like to know the answer to your questions. Maybe it has something to do with the "expand database" option in CM10. but for stadiums, I don't think you will be able to have more then 300 or 400 at a time. You'll be able to physically do it, but at a certain point around there, you'll hit the overall zdata file limit and your fifa won't start until you delete some of the zdatas and regen.
 

soccerlover1224

Club Supporter
Champion757;3409157 said:
I thought it is a great post. I just wanted to make you aware of the overall zdata file limit. I'd like to know if there is a way to increase that limit.

I didn't know there were specific limits for teams, stadiums, leagues and tournaments. i have about 350 stadiums installed, and only a handful of custom teams, tournaments and leagues and just recently reached the limit that caused fifa to not start. (not a CM10 limit, but a Fifa10.exe limit) i'm not sure if there's anything I can do to install more stadiums.

I'd like to know the answer to your questions. Maybe it has something to do with the "expand database" option in CM10. but for stadiums, I don't think you will be able to have more then 300 or 400 at a time. You'll be able to physically do it, but at a certain point around there, you'll hit the overall zdata file limit and your fifa won't start until you delete some of the zdatas and regen.

According to the file Cms_Stadiums.xml in the CMS folder of CM10, there are 440 stadiums listed. I wonder if it is a maximum number of stadiums allowed in FIFA10. It is closed to your numbers 300 and 400. I'll see what's gonna to happen when I reach it. Thanks for your help. In case if you remember the exact numbers of limits, please let me know a.s.a.p. Thanks again.
 


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