Manchester United F.C Thread [2010/2011]

[Pogba4Now]

He's not a United fan as well... so thats understandable.

But his comment about his team mates not being ambitious is not right. Would you openly say that you wanna quit your job because your colleagues at work are not ambitious? He should've shown more respect to his team mates.

 

[Recrero152]

You guys are too anal about this issue. Who doesn't work for money and only money nowadays??? Players don't play for the heart anymore. That's for old timers.

...Which is the one thing that is wrong with the modern football today. Plus stupid refs. In the old days, the better days people played for their heart, not for their wallets. Just look at national football today. People just see it as a way to reach more success, get a better club and gain more cash. Özil is an excellent example. If he was truly patriotic, he'd go and play for the country he is from which is Turkey. Instead, he went with Germany, became one of the best players in the entire tournament and is today one of Germanys most important players and got a transfer to Real Madrid because of the World Cup. He would have never reached such success if he had chosen Turkey who didn't even play at the World Cup. Btw, don't ever forgive Rooney.

 

[Mandieta6]

United are like the beat-up wife that sticks with her husband after he cheats on her and breaks her nose with a coffee mug.

 

[Help?]

Who said we are going to stick with him?

 

[mnj2x]

Crap..why is he staying. By the way, anyone who thinks money wasnt his motivation..it is being reported that the new contract has made him the highest paid player in the history of the football club. That says it all.

He will never receive the the same kind of support from the fans though..thats for sure.

 

[Mandieta6]

Who said we are going to stick with him?

The club did, by extending his contract.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Crap..why is he staying. By the way, anyone who thinks money wasnt his motivation..it is being reported that the new contract has made him the highest paid player in the history of the football club. That says it all.

Well duh. Inflation + he's the star right now.

 

[Dah Shinin']

Rooney is pimping Manchester united, they look like a bunch of hoes for begging back a player that disrespected the club. This might have been okay if it was Ronaldo, but Rooney? thats sum desperate stuff, he isn't worth it.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Has anyone seen a number on this new deal? I'm guessing 200k per week, but haven't seen anything.

 

[Pogba4Now]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6462422,00.html?

Rooney will become the highest-paid player in United history, set to earn around £150,000-a-week, having received assurances from the Glazer family about the future direction of the club.

But he will not be able to assist United on the pitch for a little bit as he spends the next three weeks recovering from an ankle injury, which was the cause of so much angst in the first place.

 

[Zakov]

Wow, this was cleverly played by the Rooney camp from start to finish.

Similar to the Neymar deal with Santos, where he was linked with us and had his father come out with statements of him leaving, only to have his contract extended and salary increased massively.

The only question is, what kind of reception will he get from the Utd faithful when he steps on the field at OT.

 

[AsmodaiPlay]

...Which is the one thing that is wrong with the modern football today. Plus stupid refs. In the old days, the better days people played for their heart, not for their wallets. Just look at national football today. People just see it as a way to reach more success, get a better club and gain more cash. Özil is an excellent example. If he was truly patriotic, he'd go and play for the country he is from which is Turkey. Instead, he went with Germany, became one of the best players in the entire tournament and is today one of Germanys most important players and got a transfer to Real Madrid because of the World Cup. He would have never reached such success if he had chosen Turkey who didn't even play at the World Cup. Btw, don't ever forgive Rooney.

That's highly contentious. Mesut Özil was born in Gelsenkirchen, Germany and therefore is completely within his rights to play for the nation in which in grew up. He has Turkish ancestry no doubt, but I don't see why that means he has to play for Turkey.

A far more clear cut example is Eduardo of Croatia. In no way shape or form is he Croatian, he moved there as a young man to further his career and gained citizenship which allowed him to represent Croatia. That, like Almunia or Arteta representing England, is in my opinion wrong but doing what Özil did isn't.

On the whole Rooney thing I'm actually wondering if Ferguson has agreed to give him the move he wants on the condition that he signs a new deal so that the club get a fair transfer fee. Obviously it would benefit the club but Rooney himself would benefit from a higher wage for the remainder of his time with the club and also a higher signing on fee. Both will know if Real or City want him then they will be prepared to pay a ridiculous sum to get him out of Old Trafford. Fergie never usually allows a player to get away with this sort of thing and surely a bond has been broken between him and his team mates (obviously not Rio, but perhaps Evra).

 

[Recrero152]

I didn't say that only because he comes from the country doesn't mean that he should play for it, it is his choice. I used him as an example to explain my point which obviously you didn't get.

 

[fender]

After reading the news of him signing a new contract after the big circus, i half-expected Ashton Kutcher to pop up to say "You've been Punk'd!"

 

[ladylover]

Apparently what else came out of the whole Rooney saga was a promise from the Glazers to give SAF a huge transfer kitty

 

[AsmodaiPlay]

I didn't say that only because he comes from the country doesn't mean that he should play for it, it is his choice. I used him as an example to explain my point which obviously you didn't get.

I didn't get it? Its not exactly difficult to understand. What your saying is player decisions are more money and trophy orientated than based on loyalty, identity e.t.c which is fair enough, but your example is factually inaccurate as far as Özil is concerned because he isn't glory chasing or anything by representing Germany, he's playing for his country of birth. Although, success is more likely with Germany than Turkey granted. As I said before Eduardo is a better example because he knows he isn't good enough for Brazil so he's latched onto another reasonable nation where he is good enough to play internationals,that isn't playing with your heart as you put it.

As for the Glazers, no chance will they make funds available. Rooney's given the impression that he actually spoke to them, which I doubt ever happened.

 

[Recrero152]

Ehh... You're misunderstanding yet again. I said that you didn't get that I used Özil merely as an example to explain, not that you didn't understand the very point of it all. You thought that I used him to say that everyone should play for the nation they come from which is not what I am saying at all.

 

[Help?]

The club did, by extending his contract.

see below

On the whole Rooney thing I'm actually wondering if Ferguson has agreed to give him the move he wants on the condition that he signs a new deal so that the club get a fair transfer fee. Obviously it would benefit the club but Rooney himself would benefit from a higher wage for the remainder of his time with the club and also a higher signing on fee. Both will know if Real or City want him then they will be prepared to pay a ridiculous sum to get him out of Old Trafford. Fergie never usually allows a player to get away with this sort of thing and surely a bond has been broken between him and his team mates (obviously not Rio, but perhaps Evra).

 

[Mandieta6]

If it's a ruse, there's still problems behind the scenes, which will show on the field, his price will go down anyway, and if ManU hold out, you risk keeping him for another year, while paying him more money. It's certain that you'll pay a dissenting player more money, but it's not certain that you'll sell him for a big-buck sum. Doesn't sound all that wise.

 

[cfdemarco]

This was already said, but I find it to be the most interesting part of the whole story-

Evidently, one of the factors that made Rooney decide to sign a new contract was that the Glazers have promised to give Ferguson 100 million pounds to spend on new players.

I can't wait to see if this actually happens, this is going to be make or break for both the Glazers and Ferguson in my mind. If the Glazers really promised this money they damn well better give it, and if Ferguson does get 100 million he better spend EVERY SINGLE PENNY of it while he can.

A keeper, a defender, a winger and an attacking midfielder at the very least. Off the top of my head, I'd like to see us go after Davide Santon, Giovanni, Elia, and a young keeper.