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I figure I should start with one of the topics that I've encountered the most in my time as a football fan:



Chelsea and Barcelona

History
Chelsea and Barcelona seem to have created one of the stronger international rivalries in recent years, with the clubs facing each other 10 times since the 2004-05 season, and it has been reported that some Barcelona players dislike Chelsea more than they do Real Madrid. Few people know that the two clubs have actually faced each other 5 other teams before the José Mourinho era at Chelsea. The first was the Semi-final of the 1965-66 of the Inter Cities Fairs Cup, the predecessor of today's Europa League. In that match-up both teams got 2-0 victories at their respective stadiums, before Barcelona smashed Chelsea 5-0 in the play-off.

They faced again in the 1999-00 Champions League Quarterfinals. Chelsea got a 3-1 lead at Stamford Bridge (Zola and Flo (twice) scored the goals for Chelsea, and Figo for Barcelona). At the Camp Nou, goals from Rivaldo and Figo gave Barça the edge before Flo scored his third goal in the tie to put Chelsea through. 7 minutes from time, Dani equalized the tie with a goal, sending the match to extra time. Rivaldo and Kluivert would both go on to score, allowing Barcelona to advance, although they would succumb to Valencia in the Semifinals.

But the real magic started in the 2004-05 season. Facing each other in the 1st knock-out round, Chelsea got a first-half lead the Camp Nou off a Belleti own-goal, stemming from a low cross from Didier Drogba. Drogba would see himself sent off for a 2nd yellow in the 56th minute, which allowed the tide to swing in Barça’s favour. Goals from Maxi Lopez and Eto’o put Barça ahead before the teams met at the Bridge.

The match started well for Chelsea, with Lampard taking advantage of a slip from Xavi to dispossess him and play a through-ball out wide to Kezman, who put in a low cross for Gudjhonsen. The Iceland man would turn Marquez out with his first touch before slamming the ball home. Chelsea would follow this up with Joe Cole cutting inside and shooting with his left-foot. The ball would hit a Barcelona defender and confuse Valdes, who managed to parry the ball but only far enough for Lampard to nick in before anyone else and tuck it inside. Damien Duff would add a 3rd after a quick Chelsea break-away saw Lampard put him through for an easy finish. Ronaldinho would give Barça hope with a well-taken penalty after Ferreira handled the ball. Ronaldinho would later also score one of his most magical goals, feinting a pass on the edge of the box before shooting from a standing position and placing the ball into the bottom corner. At 3-2, Barça were through. But it didn’t end that way, with John Terry heading a corner into the far corner of the net, and putting Chelsea through after half an hour of trying, and 15 minutes from time.

The following year the two teams faced off again at the same stage, only this time Barcelona would emerge victorious (and win the competition altogether). For the 2nd time running Chelsea would play with 10 man for most of the 1st leg, with Del Horno seeing red in the first half. A Thiago Motta own goal seemed to give Chelsea and edge before Terry returned the favour with an OG of his own, and Eto’o would score another with 10 minutes to go. In the 2nd leg, both teams were more cautious, with Ronaldinho scoring the breakthrough in the 78th minute, before Lampard score a consolation penalty in injury time.

The following year the two giants would face again, this time at the Group Stage. A Drogba goal would prove the only goal in the first match in London. At the Camp Nou, Deco would draw first blood in the 3rd minute, scoring against his future club. Lampard would put the visitors ahead with a lovely chip from a tough angle in the 2nd half, only for Gudjohnsen to score 6 minutes later against his former club. The match was scrappier, and Barcelona looked set to get the victory only for Drogba to score 3 minutes into injury team, and give Chelsea the edge in this years’ match-up between the two.

The two teams would not face each other until the well-known semifinal of 2008-09. The first match at the Camp Nou would end goalless after some resolute defending from Chelsea. At Stamford Bridge, less than 10 minutes into the match, this happened:


But unfortunately, 3 minutes into injury time, this also happened:


The match would signify a low point for Chelsea, with many believing the poor officiating from Ovrebo to have handed Barcelona the victory. Here is a video showing most of the moments Chelsea would feel robbed for, you can make up your own mind:


This would leave a bad taste in Chelsea’s mouth for years to come, making Barcelona their most hated international rival. And 3 years later, they would get their revenge. The two sides would face in the Semifinals last year, with Barcelona seen as overwhelming favorites. Chelsea were having a tumultuous season, with another midseason change of manager, and poor performances in the league and in Europe. Chelsea would again get the first goal, with Drogba scoring on the brink of half-time in the 1st leg after Lampard spotted Ramires speeding through on the left, who proceeded to cross the ball through 4 Barcelona defenders for Drogba to score. The match at the Bridge ended 1-0.

In the 2nd leg, Chelsea would see Gary Cahill go off injured in the 12th minute, forcing Di Matteo to push Ivanovic inside and play Bosingwa, often seen as a liability in defense, on the right for most of the match. In the 35th minute, Barcelona would equalize the tie with Sergio Busquets tapping it in from close range. Only two minutes later John Terry would see himself sent off soon after with a foolish knee to Alexis’ back, forcing RDM to play Ramires at right-back, with Bosingwa moving inside. Things would get worse for Chelsea moments later when Iniesta scored to put Barcelona ahead in the tie. Chelsea were a man down and without their 3 first choice CBs, playing away from home. Things looked bleak. But then this happened:


And Chelsea had hope again. Barcelona had 45 minutes to score a goal, and soon after the restart, it looked like they would get it. Drogba, playing excellently throughout the tie, caught Fabregas inside the box, forcing the referee to call for a penalty. It was Messi against Cech, but the bar would emerge victorious, with Messi hitting it too hard and hitting the crossbar. With the match nearing its completion, and Chelsea hanging on by a thread, a longball from defense saw Torres 1-vs-1 with Valdes, where he proceeded to round the keeper, and unlike a similar opportunity against Manchester United earlier in the season, he tucked it in, ending the match 2-2, 3-2 on aggregate for Chelsea.

The final tally in these matchups reads as:

__________W D L GF GA GD
Chelsea____ 4 4 5 18 23 -8
Barcelona__ 5 4 4 23 18 +8

With the overall head-to-head (1 point for whoever advances or finishes above the other) at: 3-4 for Barcelona

And if we're only considering matches in the Abramovich era:

__________W D L GF GA GD
Chelsea____ 3 5 2 14 11 +3
Barcelona__ 2 5 3 11 14 -3

With the overall head-to-head standing at 3-2 for Chelsea.

Next time I'll try to get into differences in tactics and style.

Other entries:

24/10 - Marouane Fellaini
28/10 - Chelsea - ManU Preview
16/01 - Luke Shaw, Chelsea Fan
 

Filipower

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And all thanks to Zé Mário. (H)


Nice one, you guys definitely got robbed in that semi-final; who knows what the Footballing world would be like today if that ref wasn't blind...
 

Mandieta6

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Pep's Barca's might not have gotten the aura it had today, and Englaf would likely still be dominating Europe.
 

VanTheMan

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We have a Chelsea and Barcelona Team thread my friend..
and for custom blogs, we have wordpress.org
 

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Marouane Fellaini - The Missing Piece
When Everton announced in the summer of 2008 that they were breaking the bank on a lanky midfielder from Belgium, spending 15m, a club record, to bring the young, awkward-looking giant to Goodison Park most of the club's supporters were surprised. Who was this unknown player who David Moyes was willing to pay so much money to get. Money wish Everton were notorious for not having. Today, 15m seems like a bargain. In his first season Fellaini becomes garnered a cult following for his impressive play (which earned him a Young Player of the Season Award from Everton), 9 league goals, a tendency to get stuck in (Fellaini was the most carded player of the Premiership that season) and of course, that superstar look, prompting many a follower to come to matches with fake afros.

Earlier this season Fellaini came out with the following:

Marouane Fellaini said:
I am just starting my fifth season at Everton, this will be one of my last. I have seen everything. In January or at the end of the season I will turn to another club or championship.

Understandably, many a fan promptly went crazy, frothing at the mouth at the prospect. Fellaini had started this 2012-2013 season superbly, notching 3 goals and an assist in 7 matches, playing fantastically as the focal point of everything Everton did, and being the MoM in their 1-0 victory over ManU on opening day. Everton fans were obviously disappointed, but few could really ask more from the towering Belgian. He had given the club 4 good seasons, he worked hard and along Leighton Baines, he pushed Everton from a midtable club to a Europa League contender. Everton do not have the money to keep him and could not reject a sensible amount of money for his services. Here was the biggest fish in Everton, and he wanted a bigger pond to swim in. The question is, where?

The easy answer is: anywhere. Only 2-3 clubs in the world would not want or need to invest 20-30m on a player like Fellaini, but all things considered, only two clubs make sense from every angle, and coincidentally, where Marouane chooses to go come January (or more like July) could tip the balance of the Premiership in years to come. Those clubs are Manchester United and Chelsea F.C

To get it out of the way, yes. Manchester City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool would all be interested and would all (barring perhaps Liverpool) signify a step up for the player. But I don't think any move if likely. Fellaini owes as much to Everton as they him, and the fans absolutely adore him. It would be foolish of him to not only go to a direct rival for a top half finish, but also their greatest rival Liverpool. Both Spurs and Arsenal could use him in their midfields, but neither have the monetary power (or inclination) to compete for his services with the big dogs. Neither currently offer Fellaini a shot at continuously challenging for titles. As to City, they have only just signed Javi Garcia and Carlos Rodwell, while also having Yaya Toure, Gareth Barry and James Milner as adequate cover. Spending 30m in the current financial climate would be foolish. Fellaini, too, has shown that he has a good head on his shoulders, having rejected big money moves to ManU and Real Madrid when he chose to go to cash-strapped Everton. Here is a player who can appreciate the importance of playing time for his development.

So why Chelsea and ManU? Firstly, let's discuss what it is that Fellaini offers, and what makes him so unique. The Belgian is gigantic, standing at 194cm and possessing the strength, and more importantly, dexterous heading ability and leap to accompany such a build. While he doesn't have the stride of Yaya Toure nor such mobility, Fellaini has lots of stamina and can cover a lot of ground. He has a great positional sense and is one of the best tacklers in the Premiership, as well being one of the leading players for making interceptions in the league. And top that keen defensive ability and impressive physique, Fellaini is also a very solid passer of the ball. Not one to carve through defenses with regularity, Fellaini is excellent at keeping possession; making sensible passes to more creative players and is always very dependable on the ball.

But if there's one thing to be appreciated in a footballer for a manager looking to assemble a good squad, it's versatility. Players who can play just as well in several roles are priceless, and Fellaini is one of those players. When Fellaini first arrived he was required to play behind the striker, or even as the leader of the attack, due to Everton's striker crisis. This season, he returned to this role, acting as a deeper targetman who acts as foil for both the poacher in front of him, and the midfield runners around him. And he has thrived. But many seem to forget that this isn't even his preferred position. Fellaini has gone on record in the past to say that he prefers to play deeper. When Arteta returned to fitness and took over playmaking duties, Marouane initially shifted to a holding role, where he also excelled. Later, he was moved further forward, giving him liscense to both attack and defend, and in this box-to-box role Fellaini exploded, playing some of the best football of his career.

So here is a player who has played superbly as a holder, as a box-to-box midfielder, and as an attacking midfielder. That's not to mention his ability to lead the line (although his finishing is not good enough to be considered a striker, then again, than never stopped Heskey), and it is also my belief that he could fill in adeptly at CB. Why? Why not? Lots of DMs have made the transition to CB and played extremely well: Mascherano, Yaya Toure, De Rossi, Busquets, Javi Martinez, etc. And Fellaini certainly fits the mold. He has the height, power, heading and defensive power to compete with some of the best CBs, his positional awareness is superb and he is not overly ambitious with his passing, generally going the safe-route. Everything points to the fact that he could fill in adequately, it's just a matter of Everton having a CB crisis for it to happen. And if anyone is bothered about his lack of speed, well, many a CB have gone on to have great careers without it.

Perhaps I haven't emphasised enough just how unique Fellaini is, though. You see, few central midfielders are as towering, as strong and as good in the air as the young Belgian. What Fellaini offers forces the opposition to adjust to his presence. You can't just let him keep contesting balls in midfield, you can't just leave him alone in set-pieces, and he's certainly matured enough to make this advantage count. At Everton, what with him being their best player, it's not particularly hard to contain him. But at a team like Chelsea, who also have attacking fullbacks, interchanging, Shifty*ble attackers, indefatigable runners and... sure, Fernando Torres, adjusting to him gives more room for those guys.

So, why Manchester and Chelsea? Well, both currently have a clear weakness in central midfield. United do not have a formidable ball-winner to marshall the middle of the park. Scholes, Carrick, and Cleverley are all good passers of the ball, but none is really adept at winning the ball back. Anderson, while physically stronger, is still a converted attacking mid, and it shows. Fellaini could combine with any of them and make United's team better. He could be box-to-box player that partners Carrick's reliable passing from deep, or the one that partenrs Cleverley and Scholes and keeps it tight to allow them to venture forward. He could also alternate with Anderson in a double-pivot. Fellaini's versatility and ability are such that he could play a multiple number of positions, surrounded by a dozen variations of players in many formations, and still add another dimension to their squad that United simply do not have.

The case is similar at Chelsea. While they do not need a defensive presence as much as Manchester, they do need a different sort of player in the double-pivot. Chelsea's main lack is their ability to connect defense and attack, and do it quickly. Mikel, while a good holder and very solid recycler of possession, is slow on the ball. Romeu, while possibly quicker, is still not at the level and is better suited to acting as a lone holder. Ramires, while good at transitioning from defense in attack, does so through direct running, and lacks the technical quality to build up attacks in the opponent's half. Lampard, while more direct than Mikel and better technically than Ramires, also lacks penetration and while his horizontal play is one of the best in the world, his vertical passing is not as good.

Of course, Fellaini isn't a penetrative passer either. However, he is more direct and quicker to make a pass during transitions, and while he isn't the deep-lying playmaker that Chelsea need to unlock packed defense, he is definitely a step in the right direction, and offers so much talent and versatility in a position Chelsea currently lack, that it would be foolish to disregard him because he isn't as creative as someone like Modric. As with United, Fellaini could partner Mikel and offer great defensive stability while acting as the attacking members of the double-pivot. With Ramires he could offer a tandem that takes in turn to go forward, allowing to choose between Ramires' direct running, and Fellaini's power and short passing. Similarly with Lampard, the two could take it in turns to go forward, while retaining more defensive shape than say, the Ramires-Lampard partnership.

That doesn't even take into account the fact he could offer both teams, Chelsea especially with their lack of strikers, another target-man option up front, as well a more defensive option at AMC in tough matches. Simply put, both teams current top needs could solved, at least partially, by Fellaini. Chelsea have already expressed an interest, and ManU would be crazy not to consider, what with his MoM performances in his last 2 showings against them.

Fellaini is possibly the best player up for grabs for the top clubs, and his decision to go to one club or another could go a long way to deciding the fate of the Premiership trophy in the next few seasons.
 

yoyo913

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Mandieta6;3327339 said:


When Everton announced in the summer of 2008 that they were breaking the bank on a lanky midfielder from Belgium, spending 15m, a club record, to bring the young, awkward-looking giant to Goodison Park.



Well I don't even..


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Nice last posting, I really liked that one!
 

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yoyo913;3327471 said:
Well I don't even..


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Nice last posting, I really liked that one!

Haha, thanks for pointing that out, I was sure when I was writing that that something was off but was too lazy to double-check. Fixed now.

I agree, I think Fellaini should come to Chelsea. We already have Courtois, the Hazard brothers, Lukaku, De Bruyne and the Musonda brothers. I'm sure they'd help him fit in. I know Chelsea are interested in him, and him in Chelsea, so so long as they actually decide to bid and Everton don't play hardball, I think he'll wind up in our blue. I'm anxious for January to come so I can see if we sign him already.

In a lineup of:

Torres
Hazard-Oscar-Mata
Fellaini-Mikel/Ramires/Lampard
Cole-Terry-Luiz-Ivanovic
Cech

Can you imagine how dangerous that'd be on set-pieces? I mean, sure, Torres isn't Drogba, but he's still good. Cole, Mikel/Ramires/Lampard and Oscar stay outside of the area, and then you get Torres, Fellaini, Terry, Luiz, Ivanovic looking for a header in the box, with Mata and Hazard delivering. What team has 4 headers of the ball as good as those guys? Can you imagine us against Barca? I'd just tell the wingers to keep forcing/conceding corners. Fellaini would also give us a proper target for longballs should we need it.

And come on, kid's got a 'fro. Gimme!
 

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I assume it got lost in that big text, but there is something I wanna know people's opinion about: Could Fellaini play as a modern CB?

I vote yes.
 

yoyo913

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He needs to try it for us to see.

He has to poses worldclass defensive positioning and defensive instincts to be worthwhile there so he needs to prove it first.

He has a chance, yes.

I think the modern day super defender has to be very fast too, alongside size. The playmaking portion is overrated imo, that's why there's midfield.
 

Filipower

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Haha! Anyway imo Fellaini as a CB is just theoretical shenanigans. I mean, if the situation arose where Everton had urgent need of a CB, he would pull it off, but not better than say Carrick. Fellaini belongs in the midfield.
 

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I thibk he'd be betfer than Carrick. Interwstingly, were he to go to ManU we'd likely seem him at CB in emergencies. At Chelsea, it's likely we'd see him at ST due to the current lack of cover.
 
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Nice work, a very interesting article. I agree completely with your assessment of his abilities.

However, I think you are wrong to write of Tottenham as a contender. True, they dont hold quite the same silverware potential, but I can see them nicking him whilst Chelsea and United stall (Glazers being slow to offer up the cash, Roman preferring to chase after someone like Falcao), and he is exactly the kind of signing AVB needs to win back the supporters after losing Modric and VdV. If they cant get Moutinho in Jan, I see Tottenham as the most likely team to act decisively to get Fellaini.

Also, you dont think there is any possibility of a move abroad? Bayern? Juve? I even would have said Barca should have moved for him instead of Song.

With regards to the CB question, yeah I think he could, but I'm not sure it would be the best use of his talents. But yeah, for us in particular who lack depth at CB he could play holding midfield roll and fall back to CB when inevitably Luiz gets injured and Terry suspended. Though his height and lack of pace would worry me that he could concede penalties and dangerous freekicks when up against the likes of Bale or Valencia.

Oh, I also am not sure I would go as far as to say he is the best transfer target on the market, even in that position I would still rather have Moutinho.

But yeah I thought you player analysis was refreshingly in-depth and very interesting.
 
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Sir Calumn

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How much do you reckon he would cost? Normally players from Everton are a bargain but as they paid 15m for him, surely they need to turn a profit of at least 10 putting him over the 25m mark..... is he worth quite that much?
 

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I'd say yeah. He's 24. Assuming a 5 year contract, that's 5m per season and with resale value at 28.Should he stay at the club for two contracts that's around 3.75 per season. He's one of the best mids in the Prem right now, think of what he can a hieve at an enviornmebt like Chelsea. Moutinho would be an excellent purchase, although his repertoire is completely different.

Levy is a very difficult negotiator and lots of players have preferred us to them and Arsenal. I just can't see it. A move abroad is pissible but PSG and Russia are steps in the wrong direction, Bayern just bouhht Martinez and are stacked, so are Madrid and Barca and no one can else can afford him, need him and constitute a step up from us.

I don't think Fellai.i is the perfect player to solve our midueld problems, but he's a step in the right direction, offers versatility and unique skill set and can offer backup in other needed pisitions. For the same money wr can improve our first XI but no other player can improe the squad quite as much.
 


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