[MOD] MODS by Doctor+ Productions (Fidel Gameplay)

maseren

Youth Team
i'm with you guys, i prefer football for futball's sake.

Its funny you say that about goalkeepers info. I saw a review where the guy was saying exact opposite, and they hated how GOOD the goalkeepers are. Personally i've played multiple different teams and loved how well the goal keepers played. They saved my ass BIG time a few times. anyways, as they say, everyone has a different view. Either way, loving fif15, and can't wait for Fidel to work on it some.

aurion17;3732197 said:
same :( they should make FUT a whole new game that they can sell since they are obviously only interested in big bucks :(
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
dazzer169;3732616 said:
Fidel,
IMPORTANT
I dont know if you read what I typed on another thread....but I tried your FIFA 14 cl.ini v1.0 with this FIFA 15 demo...........and it gave the demo an overlay at the top left of screen during the whole match, showing the game stats in terms of technical information such as fps and CPU details, could be interesting as to why it is doing this.........it certainly did not do this when inserted into FIFA 14. Its as if it has opened up a debug session within FIFA 15 demo !!!
Fidel, i trust you to look into this, it could be a VERY interesting find..............it was also very odd!!!!

Hello to everyone, I read all comments and requests, videos.

Yes is a dev team fifa debud game mode and I use for my gameplay mods, tested for 14 demo, last year, I think I forgot some code in the gp evo, and now I understand how it don't work in the demo last year, Isn't my issue, only on 14 demo don't work, in the 15 demo works, perfect news!
I'm happy! Anyway normally it work for full versions game only. And I use also when I make fifa gameplay mods.
Anyway I suggest you do not use gp evo 14 for 15, or you must edit yourself in order to make it compatible with new engine.
Bye
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
maseren;3731882 said:
Fidel! I had a chance to play fifa 15 demo on the PC yesterday, and I will report my thoughts on it later. I will also add what I believe can be done better, and what can't.

UPDATE:

Ok, regarding fifa 15 demo. It felt fast, a bit too fast, so that should be reduced I believe. However, the flow of the game and the passes is unbelievable. Its amazing how well the players receive passes, and how well they dribble, etc.. Also, the protecting the ball system is excellent, however, I think it needs more fouls, but it was SO nice to see that yellow cards and fouls in the box are given, and also, that the slide tackles are "human"! I had someone slide tackle in the box and gave me a penalty! also, protected the ball like a champ once and the other person got a yellow. It feels MUCH MUCH better. But again I would say, main things that need change:

- Slower, even at slow its fast
- More fouls

That's it for now.


EDIT: Dribbling with good dribblers is amazing. I managed to dribble past two people down the middle with Messi, before a slide tackle took the ball, its amazing, it really felt like I was using Messi.

Hello bro! Don't worry, many info in the new mod, come out now in a few minutes!
Bye

raul222;3731816 said:
Do you plan to make FIFA15 DEMO LOD AND CROWD TOOL ?

Yes it come out for full game version only!
Anyway I think is not required! Do you use full high settings, 4X MSAA and asinotropic filder to 16X in gpu panel?
Anyway high lod for power monster pcs come out for full game version only!
Or you want to remove 3d crowd to optimize your game?
Bye

Thanks to info0 for 15 Demo video review. I hope for a video using my upcoming mod.

Big thanks to everyone for comment!
If I forget to answer to someone please alert me and re-quote your request/post.
Bye
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
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FIFA 15 DEMO ADVANCED GAMEPLAY EVOLUTION DATABASE
REAL SOCCER SIMULATION SERIES
BY DOCTOR+ PRODUCTIONS
VERSION: 0.9
11/09/2014
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Cahill CPUAI Red card + penalty on Messi (the video come out soon).


The first, unique and exclusive Advanced Gameplay Database Mod for your FIFA 15 Demo.
This is the first start on gameplay database mod, the full version come out with full game version.
FIFA 15 ADVANCED GP EVO AI 1.0 will be released for the full game version only.

GP EVO Database is enabled in:
- Premier League Match Demostration Liverpool - Man City at game demo first start-up
- Kick off mode

DETAILS/FIX LIST:
- GP EVO Real Players Attributes (it's only a start)
- GP EVO Real Teams Custom Tactics
- GP EVO Referee Real fouls and cards strictness
- GP EVO pre-customizated game/sliders settings *
- Nike Ball assigned to all Teams
- FIFA 15 Demo Database Editing Kit included (for modders) **
- Seattle Sounders Team unlocked - (for gfx modders) ***

- Controller/gamepad setup is the original setup (not edited in the db),
if you want put all to manual from game settings menù (suggested).

* - GP EVO pre-customizated game/sliders settings
Suggested Game and Slider's settings directly stored into database.
Anyway you can setup difficulty level, game speed and sliders as you want from game menù.
These values are stored into fifaGameSettings table, open db (use DBM14 by Rinaldo) and edit yourself.
Controller setup is the original setup, if you want you can put to manual from game settings menù or from db.

** - FIFA 15 Demo Database Editing Kit
This db editing kit is included, exclusive and specific for FIFA Modders and Patchmakers,
bh files have been manually edited and are now ready to read from folder edited db.
In db folder you can see two databases (technically they are now identical, read why below).
Technical explanation:
FIFA 15 Demo use two (for the accuracy three) different databases:
1) fifa_demo_db.db stored into data_startup.big, it's the database related to the match Liverpool Man City at game start-up,
it's related to the Premier League Match Demostration included in the demo when you press start at firts demo start.
2) fifa_si_db.db stored into data_front_end.big, it's the database related to the kick off mode.
3) FUT db (not included)

The genius key to edit both game modes (1 and 2) is:
database on point 1 (fifa_demo_db.db) is compressed with EASF encryption, don't worry,
You must edit the fifa_si_db.db (or one of the two dbs, for you it is irrelevant now) and then duplicate and rename as fifa_demo_db.db.
Use/include in your db mod my bh files correctly and manually regenerated.
In this way you can merge and you can see database edits on both demo game modes.
Or if you have already edited db, now you can enable in game through my bh and my tips.

*** - Seattle Sounders Team unlocked (EA add this team in the db)
Team include players but gfx files are not included, anyway is a good way to test gfx files or lua files in game.
You can test player's faces, because game read directly from folders, rename files with ids stored in the db.
Open db to check out related player's ids for test gfx files or lua files from folders.
You can test also team's crest images.

INSTALLATION
Extract FIFA_15_ADV_ GP_EVO_DB_1_0_[D+]_pub.rar archive in a folder
Go to GP_EVO folder:
Copy the content, all files/folder in FIFA 15 DEMO MAIN FOLDER where the exe is placed (\Origin Games\FIFA 15 DEMO).
If you have problems with the intallation request the auto-installer setup.

Start demo, play the start up EPL match, pause and check at player's stats, teams custom tactics,
when the game ends play a match in kick off mode and try other teams.

ENJOY!


DOWNLOAD HERE FIFA 15 DEMO ADVANCED GAMEPLAY EVOLUTION DATABASE.


Temporary link to my 15 Mod's thread on soccergaming forum:
FIFA 14/15 MODS BY DOCTOR+ PRODUCTIONS
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187451

If you use for yourself send me a thank!
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If you use any part of this mod, you must share/add the rights of intellect and link to my thead.
This mod is based on:
FIFA 15 DEMO GAMEPLAY DATABASE KIT FOR MODDER
BY DOCTOR+ PRODUCTIONS
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187451
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bangus

Starting XI
Fidel, the default CPU defend positioning logic in the demo is many times better than previous FIFAs. Look at this: By choosing park the bus defense (d-pad left, then select all the way left), all my players come back to help defend. This didn't happen in previous FIFAs, it was only possible to accomplish this extreme defend positioning by editing player and team work rates and positioning. There is actually a lot of very good simulation CPU gameplay happening in the demo without having to edit anything other than speed, accel and line sliders. Looks very hopeful for FIFA 15, let's hope EA doesn't change anything in the full game.

 

maseren

Youth Team
Wait, so Fidel, you managed to edit this stuff, this quickly, MINUS your PC which went poof some days ago, how the HELL did you do that? i am impressed!
 

maseren

Youth Team
Bangus and anyone else, something i have never been able to get working in Fifa 14 and Fifa 15 demo either i think is the all out rush by the team to try and get the ball, or extreme pressure on the ball, or at least to have my defenders guard every player very closely! Is there a way to do that? I know Park the bus pretty much guards the goal, but if we're behind and need the ball to try and catch up how do you have the team rush the players with the ball hoping to get the ball. I have tried High pressure and it doesn't seem to work as well. any suggestions?



bangus;3732817 said:
Fidel, the default CPU defend positioning logic in the demo is many times better than previous FIFAs. Look at this: By choosing park the bus defense (d-pad left, then select all the way left), all my players come back to help defend. This didn't happen in previous FIFAs, it was only possible to accomplish this extreme defend positioning by editing player and team work rates and positioning. There is actually a lot of very good simulation CPU gameplay happening in the demo without having to edit anything other than speed, accel and line sliders. Looks very hopeful for FIFA 15, let's hope EA doesn't change anything in the full game.

 

bangus

Starting XI
maseren;3732830 said:
Bangus and anyone else, something i have never been able to get working in Fifa 14 and Fifa 15 demo either i think is the all out rush by the team to try and get the ball, or extreme pressure on the ball, or at least to have my defenders guard every player very closely! Is there a way to do that? I know Park the bus pretty much guards the goal, but if we're behind and need the ball to try and catch up how do you have the team rush the players with the ball hoping to get the ball. I have tried High pressure and it doesn't seem to work as well. any suggestions?
Raising the line height and length sliders helps push your teammates up the pitch, which by default will cause them to be in an advanced attacking position. That's one thing to try, although it does leave you vulnerable to a counter attack and the CPU will take advantage, just like real life.

The other thing is to create custom formations. I create up to a dozen, and use them in different situations. Late in the game and down a goal, create a formation with the FWs and AMFs pushed up the pitch. And raise your team's positioning and aggression tactics to high.

Another trick: use my edited bounding box table to be able to move players anywhere on the pitch. Create a formation with all players pushed forward to the max. Then when you have a GK kick with seconds to go late in the game, switch to this extreme formation. All your players will run up the pitch into the CPU's half.

Link to table: http://www.mediafire.com/download/v2b0qp7ssq1r2v0/fifa+13+bounding+box+max.7z


 

info0

Youth Team
There is massive issue with aliasing in the game. So much jaggies on player models it looks bad.

Have MSAA Off in Game Settings, but forced through drivers. Doesn't help.

Also, lags/stuttering is most likely caused by crowds. When you play on FE Oceanic stadium such things don't happen (I don't care, as works fine my end).

Och and GPU is not really being used by FIFA, lots of processing is done on CPU though.
 

bangus

Starting XI
info0;3732849 said:
Also, lags/stuttering is most likely caused by crowds. When you play on FE Oceanic stadium such things don't happen (I don't care, as works fine my end).
I've used Fidel's No Crowd mod for the past three years. I never play with crowds on, that's the #1 cause of the lag, period.
 

maseren

Youth Team
The hiccups i have had where due to removing the FPS cap I believe. But i've heard there are also issues with the 60 or 30fps cap as well.
 

dazzer169

Club Supporter
Fidel..............your GP Evo database for the FIFA 15 Demo has already made the CPU players all attempt more skill moves, its great work so far, don't know if this was part of the intention and related to you changing player values in the database but what can i say, its wonderful!!!
 

info0

Youth Team
dazzer169;3732901 said:
Fidel..............your GP Evo database for the FIFA 15 Demo has already made the CPU players all attempt more skill moves, its great work so far, don't know if this was part of the intention and related to you changing player values in the database but what can i say, its wonderful!!!

And how often do you see player in real life using skill moves to beat players? Such bs argumentation is why we will never get to see "proper" simulation game.

FIFA 11 on PC was spot on. Made AI play tactically against user. Shame EA ruined it after listening to feedback and giving AI the chance to use skill moves (which are BADLY implemented in the game, not taking into account momentum and interia or body balance!).

Sorry, but I would rather do with AI not doing skill moves at all, but out play me tactically/through clever play.
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
bangus;3732817 said:
Fidel, the default CPU defend positioning logic in the demo is many times better than previous FIFAs. Look at this: By choosing park the bus defense (d-pad left, then select all the way left), all my players come back to help defend. This didn't happen in previous FIFAs, it was only possible to accomplish this extreme defend positioning by editing player and team work rates and positioning. There is actually a lot of very good simulation CPU gameplay happening in the demo without having to edit anything other than speed, accel and line sliders. Looks very hopeful for FIFA 15, let's hope EA doesn't change anything in the full game.

Yes bro! I've noticed this good feature and what you say.
Start your favorite db edits using the first editable database included in my first mod for FIFA15 Demo.
Don't worry bro, EA DEAV TEAM don't change anything of the good things included in the demo.
But I hope that EA fix player's contact, sometimes the players vibrate, when they come into contact (pl->pl).
Does not always happen but I have seen.
Due to EA update attribdb files and exe included in full version of the game, I have decided to work on gp evo ai (ini file) only when the full version of the game come out.
If I archive into FIFA 15 all good things of gp evo 4.8 (foul behavior, foot proximity, touch region, etc), this game become superb.
We will work together.
Bye bro!

maseren;3732827 said:
Wait, so Fidel, you managed to edit this stuff, this quickly, MINUS your PC which went poof some days ago, how the HELL did you do that? i am impressed!


The response to you has become a suggestion to everyone:

Hello bro! Yes, I was really fast to buy and assemble my new pc for fifa 15, 20X better than ps4 and xbox one.
The key is the Intel H81 Chipset on my new ASUS motherboard, incredible speed, my pc start from off in 4 seconds and I'm ready to start the demo on desktop.
Now swithced to Intel i5, little lags on i7 (paparadoxical but it's true, trust me, tested out).
The best i5 for FIFA 15 is the Intel Core i5 4460 LGA 1150, tested out with other cpu, trust me.
NVIDIA GTX 660, SSD Kingston, 16 GB RAM Kingston (1066 MHZ), all conponents updated to latest technologies and speed.
I've also other 3 ssd with all my datas, you understand I've all backup of all my mods and fifa works, if I lose all this stuff I kill myself.
All ssd are connected with SATA 3 at 6Gb/s data tranfer speed.
I have the opportunity to test all I want for free, and then only buy what I want, a friend of mine has a IT shop store.
On my house I've my laboratory and on the job also (robotics and physics laboratories).
WIndows 7 Pro 64 Bit (I will write this because is important, this game is perfect with W7Pro64=light and fast, best win 7 version, perfect for fifa15),
tested and lags noticed with same pc but on a partition WIN 8.1, my suggestion.
I like also to optimize WIN SO. I've an xbox 360 gamepad usb (no wireless, important).
All drivers and so updated to latest versions (full up to date).
I play the game at full HD 1920x1080, HIGH settings, 4X MSAA, 16X anisotropic filter, game is smooth and perfect and I have not noticed any one lag.
Search in FIFA 14 Demo Impression thread my latest post.
There is no difference between a match on TV on skysports and fifa 15 demo in my pc. I'll see tackles with particles on the picth, and all gfx in an impressive details.

Really I'm impressed by the gfx engine of fifa 15 demo.
 

dazzer169

Club Supporter
info0;3732909 said:
And how often do you see player in real life using skill moves to beat players? Such bs argumentation is why we will never get to see "proper" simulation game.

FIFA 11 on PC was spot on. Made AI play tactically against user. Shame EA ruined it after listening to feedback and giving AI the chance to use skill moves (which are BADLY implemented in the game, not taking into account momentum and interia or body balance!).

Sorry, but I would rather do with AI not doing skill moves at all, but out play me tactically/through clever play.


Totally agree with the bit in brackets (skill moves being BADLY implemented in the game, not taking into account momentum and interia or body balance), I basically wanted the CPU to do plenty of skill moves in FIFA 15 to see if realistic physics are implemented finally (i.e. they always end up, in previous FIFA's including XBONE/PS4 Next gen version last year..............working out the same, a Roulette will always complete its captured motion, last years AI Rainbow's either completed fully, or failed with the same exact issue meaning ball physics were not "alive" during the AI skill move). If only ball physics were subject to the normal gameplay momentum, intertia and body angle/balance, watching the CPU doing them would be so exciting.

So yes, agree with you that FIFA 11 meant AI using proper moves to beat you, and with FIFA 15 having AI doing the same thing but in a more organic and more realistic fashion (i.e. when its not using set skill moves it is "thinking" about its body swerve left and right and using touch moves, ball physics being related to it).................so its all good, if only the skill moves would be organic whether they are used a lot, or used rarely, by the CPU.
 

dazzer169

Club Supporter
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\System

Is anyone else here playing this at 4K resolution like myself? I would love to hear your opinion if so, because you and I are in dream land right now!!!


Btw my specs are:-



ASUS Rampage Extreme Mobo, Intel Core i7-4930k CPU oc'd to 4400ghz

16gb Ram

2 x NVidia GTX 780 ti's in SLI

1TB of SSD HDD over two drives + 3tb of SATA HDD's

4k 3840 X 2160 Samsung U28D590D Monitor



I've got the PS4 and XBONE as well, and love the demo of this on them but this just blows them away, as you can well imagine.

I won a football related bet in May this year and blew over half of it (£2500) on this PC and its 4K Samsung monitor, so it does admittedly cost a fortune.

The bet was when my team Liverpool were big favourites to win the EPL with 3 matches remaining..............so as a "covering bet"...........I put a total of £1100 on Man City and Chelsea to win the EPL, and won £4500, of which the wife has "spent" the rest..............at least she allowed me to buy this PC!!!!!!
 

maseren

Youth Team
So Fidel,

I thought you'd appreciate seeing this and a quick report about your Mod. First, it made the game a bit harder. I was playing at world class, and felt it was more difficult than default world class, UNTIL, I stopped sprinting and started being patient and protecting the ball. Second, I noticed sometimes people are missing feet or heads during replay/cinematics. No issue, this is a demo. Finally, it was an AMAZING game. I played Dortmund vs City, and what an epic game... the goalkeepers felt week close to goal but good at distance. However, there where many tackles, fouls, yellows, and ALMOST a send off for Zabaleta. An amazing game, it felt so real. The PC was doing things that felt real... AGAIN, important is to protect the ball, if you rush everywhere you will see far less of this. You'll even see better stuff in the square if you protect the ball. They did an amazing job with this game an d you somehow found a way to enhance it.

Here is a pic of my final score (yes I resoundly beat them but thats because i was patient and 8 minute halfs, I am used to 6 minutes usually)

Ok i was going to insert an image but couldn't figuire out how. The score was Dortmund 6 - City 2. Fouls: 4 on each side. Yellow cards, 2 on each side, I had 2 injuries, they had 1. I had 8 tackles, and they had 6. Not perfect like a real game but damn good.

EDIt Additional Comments:

With your additions and otherwise, one of the major issues remains the Ai being able to guess when you're about to slide tackle. That was an issue in fifa 14 and remains to be an issue in the fifa 15 demo. I have almost never succeeded on a slide tackle, except while protecting the goal.
 

zxwos

Youth Team
help please... i make some edit in your gp cl and after that in game when i play any corner the ball go to line of gk. i love my edit but i want the cods to fix this.
 

amandeep

Reserve Team
info0;3732909 said:
And how often do you see player in real life using skill moves to beat players? Such bs argumentation is why we will never get to see "proper" simulation game.

FIFA 11 on PC was spot on. Made AI play tactically against user. Shame EA ruined it after listening to feedback and giving AI the chance to use skill moves (which are BADLY implemented in the game, not taking into account momentum and interia or body balance!).

Sorry, but I would rather do with AI not doing skill moves at all, but out play me tactically/through clever play.

Mate do you still play Fifa 11?
 

info0

Youth Team
amandeep;3733300 said:
Mate do you still play Fifa 11?

On PC? Got too much to do to play it, but coming back to it from time to time. Finding it amazing how FIFA changed from it.

FIFA 15 is love/hate relationship for many. I like the demo how it is, but come release date, knowing EA ways, they will do something bad to the game. I already hear shooting went back to how it used to be in FIFA 14 (which is a BIG let down for me :().

The AI in FIFA 15 is good at beating you with dribbling (w/o using skill moves), but it's also cheating in some way or another. Try slide tackling them (the new feature EA announced being possession tackles, mean nothing), they will know about it, seconds before you make it, usually avoiding it.

Bare in mind that on World Class/Legendary levels... Stat boosting for AI is remarkable and EVERY player becomes Messi/psychic :D. Winning the ball of AI? Pray ;).

Now AI changes play style and behavior when you use switch to Legacy Defending. They actually start to pass the ball more. Not going one on one with every player all the time. Remarkable.

But... When I saw PES 2015 video of AI playing as Spain, FIFA AI will never reach that level. EA Sports concentrates on FUT, the mode which gives them tons of money. They really don't care about single/career mode players (who don't touch online).

Here is PES video I talk about:



Not steering PES vs FIFA war here, but showing what I want to see in a football game.The game pace, the AI, look really impressive. If Fidel or any other modder can achieve it when full game is released, I will be impressed...

But for now, onto next FIFA 15 game I go (what can I do? I enjoy the demo) :D.
 


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