Must-Have Downloads for FIFA 09 - The List

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I have compiled a list of the best Must-Have Downloads for FIFA 09 with direct links for each of them. I spend most of my time searching the Internet and this forum for the same and thought of starting this thread. I hope this list will help many of you.

Please note that all credit goes to the original authors. I have also linked to the official thread wherever applicable, so please do not post questions like "how do i install this" or "this patch makes the game crash back to windows" and stuff.

Demo
FIFA 09 Demo by EA Sports

Official Patches
FIFA 09 Patch #1

Central Europe (and UK) - English/French/German/Italian/Dutch
Eastern Europe - English/Polish/Czech/Hungarian/Russian
North America - English/Mexican
Rest of Europe and Brazil - English/Spanish/Swedish/Danish/Brazil​

FIFA 09 Patch #2

Central Europe (and UK) - English/French/German/Italian/Dutch
North America - English/Mexican
Eastern Europe - English/Polish/Czech/Hungarian/Russian
Rest of Europe and Brazil - English/Spanish/Swedish/Danish/Brazil​

Unlockers
FIFA 09 Unlocker by Outsider 87 - FIFAMania (Official Thread)

Patches
09 Ambient Sound Patch by MonkeyDragon
09 Cinematics Patch by MonkeyDragon
09 Lighting Patch by MonkeyDragon
All-In-One Roster & Tactical Realism Patch by RayGun (Official Thread) [Mirror 1 | Mirror 2]
Armband Patch 09 Coming Soon by Outsider 87 - FIFAMania (Official Thread)
Cinematics Patch 09 by Outsider 87 - FIFAMania (Official Thread) Hall Of Fame

NOTE: This patch is different from MonkeyDragon's cinematics patch​

Crowd Patch by TeneCee - FIFADome
FIFA 09 Demo Keyboard Patch

NOTE: This patch also works with the full version of FIFA 09, though you can change the keyboard mapping manually in the full version.​

FIFA 09 Performance Patch by apollox - FIFA4Fans
FIFA 09 Ticket Patch by mrTUANDUONG

NOTE: Works with FIFA 09 unpatched only.​

FIFA 09 Ticket Patch For Nordic #1 by mrTUANDUONG

NOTE: Works with FIFA 09 patched with FIFA 09 Patch #1 only.​

G Realistic Gameplay patch Update by germoretto (Official Thread) [Mirror 1]
NextGen Graphic Patch by DLLVL & apollox with help from Outsider87, Junjoong, Damien, Raptoxx, Rapidfan, VfL4Ever, LucaToni9, Fontmaker, Keegan, Vinh113, RedDevil86 & Kim Sa-Eun (Official Thread)
Sky Patch 09 by Outsider 87 (Official Thread)
Referees Patch 09 Work In Progress by Outsider 87 - FIFAMania (Official Thread)
Sponsor Patch by FIFADome
TRUE Next Gen Graphic Patch by FIFAEvolution (Official Thread)
Uefa Champions League- Uefa Cup Patch FIFA 2009! by emree

Team & League (Also Tournament) Patches
3.Liga-Patch Update by Generic Oval (Official Thread)
AFC Champions League 2009 Patch by amiracl, billy_d04nk5 & wwwescape (Official Thread)
AFF Suzuki Cup for FIFA 09 version 1 by MSL09 Patcher
Baltic National Teams Patch by FIFA Baltic (Official Thread)
BATE Borisov patch by pietjeklap (Official Thread)
BFL by BFL Team (Official Thread)
BFL FIFA 09 (Bulgaria) by BFT Team (Official Thread)
Blue Sq. Project Work In Progress by drac234cpfc (Official Thread)
Bosnian Patch 09 v1 by Torcamaniac & BSC (Official Thread)
Career Expansion Patch 7.0 (CEP 7.0) by OckHAM
Champions League Retro Patch 1956-1991 by elyaque1963 (Official Thread)
Champions League & World Cup patch by FIFAMexico
Champions league patch for fifa 09 Work In Progress by snoppf1 (Official Thread)
Czech Mega Patch Beta In Beta by FIFA.cz

WARNING: Czech Mega Patch Beta is still in Beta.​

FIFA 4 Fans Patch v0.1 : German 1. Bundesliga by FP23 - FIFA4Fans
FIFA Baltic's Baltic Regions Patch vol.2 for FIFA 09 - CMS Compatible by FIFA Baltic (Official Thread)
FIFA MegaPatch v1.0 Work In Progress by Complex01 (Official Thread)
FIFA.in.UA update patch 1.0 by aleXP93, Keltik, Dusya84, Dimalinho&Blaugraner, Alex-El, STEALTH C.Ronaldo & Fontmaker (Official Thread)
FV Netherlands Update by FV.Crew - FifaVoetbal
GSP FIFA 09 Update v1.1 (GSL + CFA) by www.greeksuperpatch.com (Official Thread)
GSP - FIFA 09 v2.0 (GSL, B' Ethniki + CFA) Addon by www.greeksuperpatch.com (Official Thread)
HNL by Crofc.net (Official Thread)
Holland Update by lanze07 (Official Thread)
Indian I-League Work In Progress by wwwescape (Official Thread)
Indonesia National team new patch by billy_d04nk5 (Official Thread)
Iran League Patch 2008-2009 by amiracl (Official Thread)
Jamaica Team-Patch by FIFADome [Mirror 1]
Japan Team-Patch by FIFADome
Japanese J League CMP Patch for FIFA 09 by Complex01 (Official Thread)
Liga Sagres Patch by Fifa Evolution and Respira Futebol (Official Thread) [Mirror1]
Liga Vitalis Patch by bruno167 (Official Thread)
Liio's National Teams Work In Progress by mrliioadin (Official Thread (NEW) | Official Thread)
Malaysia Super League season 2009 - MSL4FIFA09 version 2 by MSL09 Patcher (Official Site)
Nineties XI Team and Hidden Stadiums Patch by RobbieD_PL (Official Thread)
Patch Peru 09 by FIFA Perú Intl. (Official Thread) [Mirror 1]
Primera División Argentina & Primera División Uruguay + Update by Fifa México
Primera División de México by Fifa México
RTWC 2010 South Africa Patch for FIFA 09 Work In Progress by RobbieD_PL (Official Thread)
Russian and Ukrainian Leagues CMP 09 by Complex01 (Official thread)
RPL09 Work In Progress by FIFAChamp.ru
San Marino Team - Patch by Gazunio & Mr.BrZyDaLL - FIFAEditing
Super Liga Patch (Serbia) by FIFASerbiaOnline
Total Hearts Update by FIFA Baltic (Official Thread)
Turkiye Bank Asya FIFA 09 by FIFAdevil (Official Thread)
Ukrainian Premier League by Lancelot34 (Official Thread)

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Also please suggest new tools and patches that can be added to this list and I will add them here.

 

[simo_yes]

thanks heaps. well done

 

[wwwescape]

Stadiums
BFL stadiums by BFL Team
EL Madrigal Stadium grass FIX by bruno167 (Official Thread)
England Stadiums fix by bruno167 (Official Thread)
Ewood Park by Puliciclone (Official Thread)
Ewood Park by Baresi - FIFAX.net Plagiarism
FIFA 09 Stadium Megapack - FIFAX.net

WARNING: This patch seems to made up of stolen stadiums without proper permissions.​

France Stadiums fix by bruno167 (Official Thread)
HNL Stadiums by Crofc.net
Italian Stadiums fix by bruno167 (Official Thread)
San Paolo stadium by Turco87 - FIFAMania
Stade Michel D'Ornano by ludo (Official Website)
Villa Park - Stadium by Alex130995 - FIFAEditing

Chants & Anthems
1. Bundesliga Goalsounds by BTSVPrinzessin - FIFADome
2. Bundesligasoundpatch by aggroer - FIFA Point
Barclays + Coca-Cola Championship + Celtic and Rangers by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)
Bundesliga 1 & 2 by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)
Bundesliga Soundpatch by apollox - FIFA4Fans
FIFA 09 Mega National Anthems Patch Work In Progress by wwwescape (Official Thread)
FIFA 09 PC AFF Suzuki Cup Chants Patch Release by MSL09 Patcher
France League Sound Patch by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)
International Chants 09 by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)
International Chants Vol 2 by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)
Keeper and Rapid Wien Soundpatch by TeneCee - FIFADome
Lega Calcio Serie A & B Sound Patch by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)
Liga BBVA Sound Patch (SPA) by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)
Major League Soccer - Sound Patch by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread) [Mirror1]
Super Liga Chants (Serbia) by FIFASerbiaOnline
T-Mobile Bundesliga Sound Pack by BrunolokoIF (Official Thread)

Kits
1. Bundesliga Fontpack by Fontmaker - FIFADome
1. Bundesliga Kitpack by FIFADome
3. Liga Torwarttrikotpatch by Alex130995 - FIFAEDITING
Adidas Referee Kitpack by Raptoxx - FIFADome
FIFA 09 UEFA National Teams Kits Pack by AJ
Korea Kits Pack 2009 v1.0 by Kim Sa-Eun - FIFAKorea

NOTE: You need to register at www.fifakorea.net/english/ to be able to download this patch.​

Tipp3 Bundesliga Fontpatch by RapidFan - FIFA4Fans

Tools
09 Adboard Tool by MonkeyDragon
09 Boot Tool by MonkeyDragon
09 Flag Tool by MonkeyDragon
09 Kit Tool + 09 Kit Tool Update 1.5 + 09 Kit Tool Update 2.0 by MonkeyDragon
09 Popups Tool by MonkeyDragon (Official Thread) Hall Of Fame

09 Popups Tool Add-Ons (UnOfficial):
Premiere Austria TV Popup by Rapidfan - FIFA4Fans​

09 Scoreboard Tool + 09 Popups Tool + Scoreboard & Popups Tutorial DEAD by MonkeyDragon

NOTE: MonkeyDragon has stopped making tools and patches for FIFA games.​

BigGui
Creation Master 09 Update by Rinaldo (Official Thread) Hall Of Fame
DB Master 09 by Rinaldo (Official Thread)
Face Design Master 09 Update by Rinaldo (Official Thread)
Fifa 09 Backup Programm by FIFA4Fans
FIFA 09 Customizer Lite by FIFASoccer.ru
FIFA 09 Facepreview by TeneCee & Carlos*son - FIFADome
FIFA 09 Fat Rebuilder by FIFA 4 Fans
FIFA 09 FifaMania Regenerator 09 by Krystian82 - FIFAMania (Official Thread)
FIFA 09 Music Changer by FIFASoccer.ru
FifaLightWorker Update by Ludo
FifaMania Fat Controller 09 by Outsider 87 - FIFAMania (Official Thread)
OfilesWorker by Ludo
fifaFS 5.2.40
File Master 09 by Rinaldo (Official Thread)
FshEd

FshEd Plug-Ins:
GIF Import Plug-In
Graphics Importer Plug-In​

Internal Master 09 by Rinaldo (Official Thread)
Kit Design Master 09 (Full Package) | Kit Design Master 09 by Rinaldo (Official Thread)
Manager Master 09 DEAD by Rinaldo
OEdit (Official Site)
Sound Master 09 by Rinaldo (Official Thread)
UniDB

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Also please suggest new tools and patches that can be added to this list and I will add them here.

 

[dexdippy_2005]

great thread!!! I spent hours searching for these patches. saved me a lot of time. THANKS

 

[RobbieD_PL]

I give permission to have my patch in this list. If you'd like you can post the thread link as its still a work in progress.

PS: Is there anyway to change the thread Title and section; "Cheats and Trainers" doesn't sound very appealing xD If it's an unlocker then it's an unlocker

 

[wwwescape]

Adboards
1. Bundesliga Adboard Patch by FCP 1912 - FIFA4Fans
1. Bundesliga Adboards 2008/2009 by MexicanTraveller - FIFADome
Champions League Adboards 2008/2009 by MexicanTraveller - FIFADome
Champions League adboards in FIFA '09 by aleXP93
Ekstraklasa Adboardspack by RickyKaka - FIFAPoint

Faces
1. & 2. Bundesliga Facepack by FCK93 - FIFADome
Benny's International Facepack v1 by Benny93 - FIFAEditing
Brazilian League Facepack by Victor & Leo1983 - FIFAEvolution
Bundesliga Facepack v.1 by TeneCee - FIFADome
Bundesliga Facepack v.2 by TeneCee - FIFADome
Champions League Face Pack Vol.1 by Haness - FIFA4Fans
Cisse by ???
Deco by ???
Duff by Nedved
International Facepack v1 by TeneCee - FIFADome
International Facepack v2 by TeneCee - FIFADome
International Facepack v3 by Carlos*son - FIFADome
Park Ji-Sung Face v1.0 by Kim Sa-Eun - FIFAKorea

NOTE: You need to register at www.fifakorea.net/english/ to be able to download this patch.​

Romania Facepack by aNuke
YoYoCena's Facepack by YoYoCena - FIFAEditing

Flags
1. Bundesliga Flagpack 2008/2009 by MexicanTraveller with help from Geißbock23 - FIFADome
2. Bundesliga Flagpack 2008/2009 by MexicanTraveller - FIFADome
Axpo Super League Flagspack by Zhivko BGR - FIFA4Fans
Brazilian League Flag Pack by leo
Argentina League Flag Pack by leo (Official Thread)
Champions League Flagpack 2008/2009 by Geißbock23, MexicanTraveller, Raptoxx, -TK-, Pucci & FCHMatts - FIFADome
Eircom League Flagpack by Geißbock23 - FIFADome
Eredivisie Flagpack 2008/2009 by Geißbock23 - FIFADome
Gambrinus Liga Flagpack by Sherminator, slaviagame & Blader - FIFA.cz
Liga BBVA Flagpack 2008/2009 by Geißbock23 - FIFADome
Ligue 1 Flagpack 2008/2009 by Geißbock23 - FIFADome
Nationalteam Flagpack by MexicanTraveller - FIFADome
Premier League Flagpack 2008/2009 by MexicanTraveller - FIFADome
SAS Ligaen Flagpack 2008/2009 by Geißbock23 - FIFADome
Serie A Flagpack 2008/2009 by FCHMats with Geißbock23 & Pucci - FIFADome
Scottish Premier League Flagpack 2008/2009 by Geißbock23 - FIFADome
Turkcell SüperLig Flagpack 2008/2009 by Raptoxx - FIFADome

Logos, Banners, Trophies, Boots, Gloves, Balls, Etc...
1. Bundesliga Ballpack by Fontmaker - FIFADome
3D Gras Patch v1.0 by Kim Sa-Eun - FIFAKorea

NOTE: You need to register at www.fifakorea.net/english/ to be able to download this patch.​

Adidas F50.8 TUNIT Bootpack by Leopar
Adidas Kopanya by Leopar - FIFAPoint
FIFA 09 3D Turf Patch by JunJoong
FIFA 09 Logopatch v1 by Baresi - FIFAEditing
FIFA 09 Net Patch by ar31an
German 1.Bundesliga Menubanner Patch by ATSV - FIFA4Fans
Goalnets Patch by apollox - FIFA4Fans
Grass patch by JunJoong - FIFAPoint
GUI Logo's Pack All Leagues by BrunolokoIF (Original logos FM 08 by: frankie 7, Derek, troy, djuzelovic) (Official Thread)
Kappa Fonts by Damien - FIFAEvolution [Mirror 1]
Keegan's Next-Gen Boots by Keegan (Official Thread)
Leopar Gloves & Ball by leoparkedi (Official Thread)
Logopack by Renegade - FIFAPoint
Logos update patch by aleXP93
Menu Graphics Updates 1 Bundesliga Bundesliga by Baresi - FIFAEditing
National teams logos update by aleXP93
Net-Patch by lanze07 & Torwartgott - FIFADome
Net Patch v2 by apollox - FIFAPoint
Net Patch by lanze07 (Official Thread)
Nike T90 Omni Ball Pack by PKBomb
Premier League Logos by BTSVPrinzessin - FIFADome
Scissorhands Logos pack by Scissorhands (Official Thread) Hall Of Fame
Scissorhands Team GUI banners pack by Scissorhands (Official Thread) Hall Of Fame
Scissorhands Trophies shop by Scissorhands (Official Thread) Hall Of Fame
T-Mobile Bundesliga Logos by BTSVPrinzessin - FIFADome
TheDisciples Fonts by thelordspawn (Official Thread)
UEFA Cup original ball by marcincza - FIFAPoint
Umbro Fonts by Damien - FIFAEvolution [Mirror 1]

NOTE: Logos, Banners, Trophies, Boots, Gloves, Balls, Etc... downloads are a matter of choice, thread links are added for some and not their direct link.​

Commentary and Text
Brazilian Portuguese Commentary and Text
Mexican Commentary and Text
Czech Commentary
Portuguese Commentary
Russian Commentary
Spanish Commentary and Text

Templates
Adboard Templates
FIFA 09 Kit & MiniKit Template
Flag Template
Kit Template

Tutorials
Adboard Making Tutorial by Damien - FIFA-Evolution [Mirror 1]
Face-Making Tutorial by Damien - FIFAEvolution
Flag Making Tutorial by Damien - FIFA-Evolution [Mirror 1]
HD Logo Tutorial by Damien - FIFA-Evolution [Mirror 1]
Kitmaking Tutorial by FIFADome
Miniface Tutorials by Damien - FIFAEvolution

Others
.NET Framework 1.1
.NET Framework 2.0

Links
http://www.soccergaming.com
http://news.fifapoint.com/english/
http://www.fifadome.com
http://fifax.net
http://www.fifa4fans.com
http://www.fifa-evolution.com
http://www.fifakorea.net/english
http://www.serbia-football.com
http://www.fifasite.pl
http://www.fifa.cz
http://www.fifavoetbal.com
http://www.fifaediting.de.vu
http://crofc.net
http://www.fifapro.ro

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Also please suggest new tools and patches that can be added to this list and I will add them here.

 

[RobbieD_PL]

Who's making the National Anthems patch? Is there a thread link available?

 

[wwwescape]

Who's making the National Anthems patch? Is there a thread link available?

Actually I myself and making the National Anthems patch. I have not started a thread yet as I am still testing the anthems in FIFA 09.

I will be posting all the National Anthems for teams not in FIFA 09 and if required updates of the ones already in FIFA 09.

I will be releasing the patch as a whole patch as well as seperate countries download in a thread when I finish testing.

Come to think of it I can help contribute to your RTWC 2010 South Africa Patch for FIFA 09. What do you say? Do you need my national anthems in your patch???

 

[RobbieD_PL]

I have most countries already done from either Euro 2004, TCM 2005 or WC 2006. I'm only missing Cote D'Ivoire, Qatar, UAE, Cuba, Suriname and Haiti.

 

[wwwescape]

I can help you out there. No problem. I will start posting my anthems in a new thread on Monday or Tuesday at the earliest.

I will email you the anthems of Cote D'Ivoire, Qatar, UAE, Cuba, Suriname and Haiti and you can include them in your patch. I hope that's ok.

 

[amifla]

Excelent job, great. Thanks mate.

 

[Alaa]

Guys, I need help. I have that kit tool v2 but when I import a third a kit for any team it goes to the GK slot!! And when I try to import in the GK slot, I get an error! How do I import the 3rd kit?!!

Edit: Now the GK slot is working but it imports kits to the third kit slot! lol! The third kit slot stopped working.

 

[wwwescape]

Guys, I need help. I have that kit tool v2 but when I import a third a kit for any team it goes to the GK slot!! And when I try to import in the GK slot, I get an error! How do I import the 3rd kit?!!

Edit: Now the GK slot is working but it imports kits to the third kit slot! lol! The third kit slot stopped working.

Hey Alaa.

Please make sure that the Third Kit for the team you are trying to import to has a slot for a Third Kit in the FIFA 09 db. If a slot does not exist then you need to add a slot first using DB Master 09 (maybe someone from the Official Thread could help you out here) and then use 09 Kit Tool to add the Third Kit or you could wait for CM 09 which makes it a whole lot easier to add Third Kits for teams.

Hope this was of help.

EDIT: Have a look here, maybe it could be of some help.

 

[Alaa]

Well, that was for Chelsea.

 

[FifaDemon2008]

Add: The second official patch from EA. It massively improves the game, both online and offline:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-pc/357803-ea-have-fixed-other-difficulty-levels.html

Edit: Some of those patches, for example the net one, link to a site where there's a popup that's extremely unsuitable for kids; my nephew nearly saw it just now. Do you know of any other sites where those patches can be found? And do you know what the difference between MD's cinematic patch and the one that's still to be released?

 

[wwwescape]

Add: The second official patch from EA. It massively improves the game, both online and offline:

http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/fifa-09-pc/357803-ea-have-fixed-other-difficulty-levels.html

Edit: Some of those patches, for example the net one, link to a site where there's a popup that's extremely unsuitable for kids; my nephew nearly saw it just now. Do you know of any other sites where those patches can be found? And do you know what the difference between MD's cinematic patch and the one that's still to be released?

Really sorry about that FifaDemon2008. I will try to get better links for the patches above.

I will definately add the Official patches link here as well. Thanks.

Regarding the cinematics patch, MD's patch has new cinematics whereas FIFAMania's patch promises new cinematics & more popups in game. For eg: Stadium & Match Info popups, referee popups etc... Check out the thread for a video preview.

 

[FifaDemon2008]

Really sorry about that FifaDemon2008. I will try to get better links for the patches above.

I will definately add the Official patches link here as well. Thanks.

Regarding the cinematics patch, MD's patch has new cinematics whereas FIFAMania's patch promises new cinematics & more popups in game. For eg: Stadium & Match Info popups, referee popups etc... Check out the thread for a video preview.

Hey, I don't blame you mate, just the retards who insist on shoving this sort of thing down our throats. I'm hoping that FIFAManias' patch has some better injury and victory celebration cine's, off to check it out now.

Edit: About that site we're talking about, it's very confusing. You click on the name of the patch and nothing happens. It's only until you scroll down the bottom and you see the tiny word 'download' in the corner that you actually get to the file. So, you could just link straight to the file instead, that way people won't get confused.

 

[wwwescape]

Added the Official Patches for FIFA 09. Just waiting for a proper direct link URL to add FIFA 09 Patch #2 direct download link.

Added CLEAN and direct links for some patches.

Thanks FifaDemon2008 for pointing out.

EDIT: FifaDemon2008, if you could remove the quote you made earlier. That still has the old links. Thanks in advance.

 

[FifaDemon2008]

Added the Official Patches for FIFA 09. Just waiting for a proper direct link URL to add FIFA 09 Patch #2 direct download link.

Added CLEAN and direct links for some patches.

Thanks FifaDemon2008 for pointing out.

EDIT: FifaDemon2008, if you could remove the quote you made earlier. That still has the old links. Thanks in advance.

OK, done.

Edit: About the net patch, my net has a transparent roof. I've tried changing DoF, AA, AF, vsync and things like that, but it doesn't help. Any idea why this is happening; it spoils the whole look of the net (which looks great otherwise)?

Edit: Do these help?

http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/easports/fifa/fifa09/patches/fifa_2009_ukfrdeitnl_patch2.exe

http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/...a09/patches/fifa_2009_ukessedkptbr_patch2.exe

http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/easports/fifa/fifa09/patches/fifa_2009_ukplczhuru_patch2.exe

http://na.llnet.eadownloads.ea.com/u/f/easports/fifa/fifa09/patches/fifa_2009_ukmx_patch2.exe

In this order:

• Central Europe (and UK) - English/French/German/Italian/Dutch

• Rest of Europe and Brazil - English/Spanish/Swedish/Danish/Brazil

• Eastern Europe - English/Polish/Czech/Hungarian/Russian

• North America - English/Mexican

They're all from the EA forum.

 

[wwwescape]

Updated:

FIFA 09 Patch #1

Added :

FIFA 09 Patch #2
Referees Patch 09 by Outsider 87

OK, done.

Edit: About the net patch, my net has a transparent roof. I've tried changing DoF, AA, AF, vsync and things like that, but it doesn't help. Any idea why this is happening; it spoils the whole look of the net (which looks great otherwise)?

Edit: Do these help?

Thanks FifaDemon2008.

Regarding the net patch. I don't seem to have the problem at all with the patch. I remember seeing a thread here in the forums regarding this patch and the problems you're having. Let me have a look around and maybe I can help you out.

Also there's news from Rinaldo that a beta version of CM09 will be released very very soon. So it's good news for all of us.