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NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
Just trying out the new account here, strictly NK FOOTBALL ©! No other names involved.

When I'm not around, MJ will do his business of keeping you guys entertained, right man? haha.

NK.
 

Comma

Youth Team
Hello NK,

Great update thus far, only a couple things I have questions about on the world class setting.

First, and this maybe just me, but is it possible to tweek somethings in order to utilize the right analog stick. I just want to play with Ronaldinho (for who I payed big bucks for) and do his style of play. Maybe you could lower the cpu tackling, or at least make them miss a couple so I can run by them with a right stick move? Also, is it possible to make it so when we have a the ball, we arent always marked by 3-5 defenders. I mean, is it really that bad if we were marked by 1, or maybe 2 defenders tops? Its just really hard to control the ball without having to pass and pass and pass as soon as we touch the ball hopeing someone doesnt get in the way and intercept. Im not asking for a stupid cpu where you can run by them all the time and such. Im just asking to be able to let things "develop" without having to pass pass pass all the time.

I also realize this is going to cause problems becuase this inevitably causes a slower game, and not everyone will like this. So maybe its possible for you to tell me where to look so I can edit it myself?

Cheers
,
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
Hello comma,

Glad you enjoy V7, I will look into your requests for V8 and allow users to have more flexability while controlling the top skilled/fastest players'. This is something that I improved over V6 to V7, but I shall truly focus on this area.

Thanks for the feedback buddy,
NK.
 

caseira

Youth Team
Comma said:
wow, sorry. I guess you are just sol then. I was just trying to help. I was even thinking about emailing you the update, but I think you are better of whining.

Cheers
,

Comma, I don't know if i offended you. If I did then i'm sorry, wasn't my intention. Thank you for helping me.
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
Anymore feedback would be very welcome! :)

V8 is going to focus directly on ball physics, goalkeepers and increasing AI realism in terms of marking, passing, tackling, shooting, etc. Players' will notice when the CPU changes tactics.

Many requests thus far has been to have players' allow to run past defenders, out-skill them and have CPU players' mark-up and defend with more variety. This, in V8 is something that will be focused on. NK FOOTBALL © and MJ FOOTBALL © are going to test and play early V8 beta's, tweaking and tuning, refining the gameplay to make sure that V8 has the playability you want. V7 is the closest any update has got to pleasing most gamers and keep them challenged, yet entertained. V8 will only increase this number.

NK FOOTBALL © is more than just one gamer, one editor. It is a group of people and testers, who believe in making a better game for all.

Thanks,
NK FOOTBALL ©
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
V8: early dev.

Check out this very early V8 demo movie showing to movies saved from a V8 beta. The speed of the replays has been altered in the process of recording and it not any reflection on the actual gamespeed of V8.

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD MOVIE

Those who want player control and speed to stand out might look forward to V8.

NK.
 
i think all the work you've done with realism and ballphysics are great but i still find it too easy to actually win games, at world class level(i can't unlock legendary yet) i won the world cup with ghana!
don't get me wrong, everything else is great but perhaps you could release 2 gameplays next time one that is easier and one that is hrader maybe?
 

akshay

Club Supporter
1966+2006 said:
i think all the work you've done with realism and ballphysics are great but i still find it too easy to actually win games, at world class level(i can't unlock legendary yet) i won the world cup with ghana!
don't get me wrong, everything else is great but perhaps you could release 2 gameplays next time one that is easier and one that is hrader maybe?

exactly what i wanted to say...
NK this patch is way to simple ..u claimed that even semi-pro wud be difficult..but its way too easy to coast to victory with V7 even in WC..i think u should release a harder gameplay than V6 including all the "eye candy" of V7
 

William_01

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
If you keep changing and updating stuff for too long, by the time you have your brand new shining version 10.2, you'll eventualy notice it's the clone of your version 1.0 :D , it's the circle of evolution...

Or in more simpler words, for the people who didn't get it, "if you leave the soup for too long on the fire, eventualy it will burn and the crap will fly all over the kitchen." (tm)
 

teambigred

Club Supporter
NK,

i have installed v6 for the world cup game and now whenever a match is over the game crashes to desktop saying "sorry for the inconvenience...." anyway this is the only patch i have installed so do you know how to preferably fix it or if not uninstall it and restore the orignal gameplay (though yours is a lot better so i would like to keep it if i can)

thanks in advance

teambigred
 

MJ FOOTBALL ©

Club Supporter
William_01 said:
If you keep changing and updating stuff for too long, by the time you have your brand new shining version 10.2, you'll eventualy notice it's the clone of your version 1.0 :D , it's the circle of evolution...

Or in more simpler words, for the people who didn't get it, "if you leave the soup for too long on the fire, eventualy it will burn and the crap will fly all over the kitchen." (tm)

Thats quite funny actually, cos me and NK were talking about this last night, however theres always a possiblity when your tweaking that one or two values would be similar to the first patch. But we are improving the game each patch so it wouldnt be the case for all values would it :). Anyways thanks for making me chuckle tho!!! :ewan:

- MJ FOOTBALL ©
 

Dimitris

Club Supporter
Sh*t!!!! Now i have NK v.7, but I don't have FIFA06... It doesn't open the .exe and I cannot find the damned CD! :mad: :s***: ! I'll take it and I'l send my feedback... Anyway, nick thank you for your early uploading! Respect man!!!! :clapwap:
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
All this talk of V7 been to easy is starting to drill into me that you guys are bloomin good at FIFA 06!!! Which puts me in a funny position to re-think my strategy for V8. Ok ok, if V7 is too easy, then I will use all my knowledge from FIFA 2002 upwards to make FIFA 06 shockingly difficult. But, I have no doubt people will then say it's too difficult...that of which I will laugh and ignore and explain how you should practice more often! So ner!! haha. Just kiddin. But I will indeed make it much harder. I have a few cool ideas that I have tried out with MJ, one of which having all goalkeepers set to same value no matter what difficulty you're on and the only difference been the difficulty of breaking the defence and the CPU skill at shooting. I have slowed the game down by quite a bit already. No one on this board beta tested V7, perhaps a few beta-testers will come forward to test V8? The reason v6 was such a success on this board was because a few of you from here, who are very good at the game gave me feedback!

NK.
 

Comma

Youth Team
I cant imagine how some people think the game is really really easy. I mean, I play this game every damn day while I ignore most of my responsibilities. That being said, I'm not exactly saying its too hard. I believe the difficulty right now is just right according to how other teams play. Of course teams like Chelsea are going to be able to rally and come back from a 1-0 or 2-0 down while lesser know teams usually cant do that if you play them right. On the other hand, if you are losing 1-0 or 2-0 to a team like chelsea then it wont be that easy to come back yourself while sometimes lesser know teams (like teams played in the champions league first rounds) can give up some quick goals. I really applaude you for this feat. Its not easy for someone to make the game this way, so i think this is a great accomplishment and this should not be changed.

While this seems to be true, there are some things for the game play that I would like to see tweaked other than those i already mentioned. The thing is, I feel like these are somewhat responsible for the 'feature' I stated above. I've noticed that when we are on the ball and IF we arent swarmed by 80 million defenders (which I'm pretty sure is the real number) then the reaction time of our players is WAY slower than the cpu's. This means that when I use things like first touch and moves that the cpu defender is ALREADY where I want to go before i even finish the move, even if I had them beat initally. They can turn on a dime and stop like they dont have momentum. Its like our players are dumb. Ive also noticed that whenever there is ANY contact that our players are the ones that get bumped off the ball and do the little animation like they just ran into a wall which renders them useless for like 10 minutes (not really, just feels that way).

Also, as I mentioned before, they always have all 11 players around the ball it seems like which makes using things like right stick moves and first touch useless. But I've recently noticed that our players never mark someone with more than one player. Its very frustrating to see, but it happens regularly, the spu's striker just run past a cb while the cb just stands there and turns because I've been marking him with my cm since he's made this run without passing since midfeild. Im just asking for maybe a balance here. I dont necessarily want for all my players to run at the ball, but getting help would be nice. And I'm not saying that the cpu defenders shouldnt all run at the ball, but some space once and a while when they are sitting back waiting for me to attack instead of always attacking me woul dbe nice also.

The trick with all of this is to not decrease the difficulty, which i realize is going to be extremely difficult. Maybe concentrate on making all the players react the way you want them too, then tweak non behaviorial stuff like shot accuracy and timing and things like that. Making them more in favor of the cpu in the higher levels would make it just as hard as now I would assume? I read that in your download that we wouldnt be able to say the cpu cheated and i guess thats correct about we can do things they can do, but our players dont act the same, and thats what bothers me.

Ok, I'm done. Sorry for the long response, and it already is a great update. Please dont make it too hard. Ockham knows what hes doing, so if he wants to make things harder he will know where to look.but people like me like the game just fine. I like the fact that I can blow out Sunderland when i play as Man U while a game with chelsea ends 1-0 if im lucky (or unlucky). But the fact is its fun either way. For the first time in a long time I can lose. I guess the most impressive thing is I can lose to any particular team on any particular game. I havent ALWAYS been able to beat sunderland easily, which makes the game that much more exciting. Great work!

Cheers
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PS- Sorry for being so long winded.
 

NK FOOTBALL ©

Senior Squad
Thanks Comma for the great feedback!! Was a great read I must say.

I realise that V7 is easier than V6, and this is NOT down to CPU settings, but rather other settings that have been changed and did not favour the game difficulty. In any case I installed V6 and uninstalled V7 and straight away noticed the CPU played better in V6 then V7. This was not because of settings, but something I will tweak myself and change. By knowing what I know now I should be able to make the game harder and keep updating the CPU play to make it more challenging. This isn't comfirmed as of yet. Intensty files will be tweaked again and I will fall back on V6 upwards and use V7 as a source, but V8 will be built upon the basics of V6, not V7.

NK.

Comma said:
I cant imagine how some people think the game is really really easy. I mean, I play this game every damn day while I ignore most of my responsibilities. That being said, I'm not exactly saying its too hard. I believe the difficulty right now is just right according to how other teams play. Of course teams like Chelsea are going to be able to rally and come back from a 1-0 or 2-0 down while lesser know teams usually cant do that if you play them right. On the other hand, if you are losing 1-0 or 2-0 to a team like chelsea then it wont be that easy to come back yourself while sometimes lesser know teams (like teams played in the champions league first rounds) can give up some quick goals. I really applaude you for this feat. Its not easy for someone to make the game this way, so i think this is a great accomplishment and this should not be changed.

While this seems to be true, there are some things for the game play that I would like to see tweaked other than those i already mentioned. The thing is, I feel like these are somewhat responsible for the 'feature' I stated above. I've noticed that when we are on the ball and IF we arent swarmed by 80 million defenders (which I'm pretty sure is the real number) then the reaction time of our players is WAY slower than the cpu's. This means that when I use things like first touch and moves that the cpu defender is ALREADY where I want to go before i even finish the move, even if I had them beat initally. They can turn on a dime and stop like they dont have momentum. Its like our players are dumb. Ive also noticed that whenever there is ANY contact that our players are the ones that get bumped off the ball and do the little animation like they just ran into a wall which renders them useless for like 10 minutes (not really, just feels that way).

Also, as I mentioned before, they always have all 11 players around the ball it seems like which makes using things like right stick moves and first touch useless. But I've recently noticed that our players never mark someone with more than one player. Its very frustrating to see, but it happens regularly, the spu's striker just run past a cb while the cb just stands there and turns because I've been marking him with my cm since he's made this run without passing since midfeild. Im just asking for maybe a balance here. I dont necessarily want for all my players to run at the ball, but getting help would be nice. And I'm not saying that the cpu defenders shouldnt all run at the ball, but some space once and a while when they are sitting back waiting for me to attack instead of always attacking me woul dbe nice also.

The trick with all of this is to not decrease the difficulty, which i realize is going to be extremely difficult. Maybe concentrate on making all the players react the way you want them too, then tweak non behaviorial stuff like shot accuracy and timing and things like that. Making them more in favor of the cpu in the higher levels would make it just as hard as now I would assume? I read that in your download that we wouldnt be able to say the cpu cheated and i guess thats correct about we can do things they can do, but our players dont act the same, and thats what bothers me.

Ok, I'm done. Sorry for the long response, and it already is a great update. Please dont make it too hard. Ockham knows what hes doing, so if he wants to make things harder he will know where to look.but people like me like the game just fine. I like the fact that I can blow out Sunderland when i play as Man U while a game with chelsea ends 1-0 if im lucky (or unlucky). But the fact is its fun either way. For the first time in a long time I can lose. I guess the most impressive thing is I can lose to any particular team on any particular game. I havent ALWAYS been able to beat sunderland easily, which makes the game that much more exciting. Great work!

Cheers
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PS- Sorry for being so long winded.
 


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