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NK FOOTBALL © : V8 - Come and get it!!
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TheGrimSweeper
Youth Team
Dimitris said:
headers also should be easier a bit.
Ive actually given up on em, cause ive come to the conclusion their impossible.
Other then the headers, and defensive headers thing its very nice.
Dimitris said:
practise more, i posted a replay and have a goal where its 1v1 which i just slightly changed the direction of the run of my striker a bit before i tap or if ur fancy, just dribble away , the point behind distrupting the keepers positioning, if u just change a bit oof direction when ur very close to him. He'll be unable to safe it anymore.
The keepers are not impossible, i just realize a couple of days ago that its just that their positioning and footwork when they are about to make a save tats awesome, cuz somehow i chose to look at what the keeper is doing than where my striker is running
another thing for u guys saying the keeper is too hard on 1v1 situations, please post your replays and let everyone see how did u do your 1v1 and we'll justify is either the CPU keeper is just too hard or a lack of conviction and skill in your play
NK FOOTBALL ©
Senior Squad
daccorn said:practise more, i posted a replay and have a goal where its 1v1 which i just slightly changed the direction of the run of my striker a bit before i tap or if ur fancy, just dribble away , the point behind distrupting the keepers positioning, if u just change a bit oof direction when ur very close to him. He'll be unable to safe it anymore.
The keepers are not impossible, i just realize a couple of days ago that its just that their positioning and footwork when they are about to make a save tats awesome, cuz somehow i chose to look at what the keeper is doing than where my striker is running
another thing for u guys saying the keeper is too hard on 1v1 situations, please post your replays and let everyone see how did u do your 1v1 and we'll justify is either the CPU keeper is just too hard or a lack of conviction and skill in your play
Yeah you're right I just scored a goal by turning away quickly with Barcelona. The keepers is 'thrown off' by your turn and can't dive quick enough.
Heading the ball is still difficult to keep down, but let me tell you how I score (yup, that's right <b>score</b>). First of all, a high cross isn't easy to keep down, most of your attempts from a high cross will go over...the odd one will stay down. To give yourself a better chance, and I hope ya'll know how to perform one of them...deliver a LOW cross into the box (left trigger + cross), then select the amount of power you want to place on the header. A quick tap will place less power on the header and keep it down better, I've performed low headers and high headers where I've hit the post, but I've scored with a couple of lower headers and the CPU scored Vs myself by hitting crossbar and going in...looked pretty cool.
NK.
I think NK and others have done an enviable job in extending the shelf life of this game and resurrecting it for many people. However, there is a fine line between challenging and frustrating - I think goalkeeper dominance is the worst part of it. The challenge should be in carving out a decent scoring position, not in finishing the simplest tap-in. Also, in real football I would say one out of every three goals is a shot from outside the 18, which is near possible with gameplay patches.
I played with an earlier version of this patch for a full season and I can count the goals I scored with my foot on one hand. I play two to three hours a week, I want the gameplay to be challenging, but football is about scoring goals. To that end, the keepers are frustrating and unrealistic. I guess these patches are for rabid gamers who play daily and practice, for for the rest of us who don't have the time, it's just depressing to suck so much.
Not to take anything away from NK's contribution, the FIFA community is very grateful for the work and time that was invested for the greater good.
I played with an earlier version of this patch for a full season and I can count the goals I scored with my foot on one hand. I play two to three hours a week, I want the gameplay to be challenging, but football is about scoring goals. To that end, the keepers are frustrating and unrealistic. I guess these patches are for rabid gamers who play daily and practice, for for the rest of us who don't have the time, it's just depressing to suck so much.
Not to take anything away from NK's contribution, the FIFA community is very grateful for the work and time that was invested for the greater good.
NK FOOTBALL ©
Senior Squad
So my friends you think these keepers are unbeatable?! You don't have to 'tap in' or have some sort of 'special way' of shooting, it CAN be done with a normal shot. V9 goalkeepers are more skilful than in V8 and yet I've put together a video showing my goals scored so far in V9, one of which was a penalty (but I thought I'd show you guys the goalkeeper fouling my player to reward me a penalty in the first place) and one is a free kick (but a blooming luuurvely one) and the rest are open play.
All goals scored on world class against goalkeepers more challenging than in V8.
Oh and both goalkeepers will be equal now. What I thought would happen, indeed happened. If you reduce the user goalkeeper, the CPU doesn't attack as much and puts the ball in the back of the net when it wants to, or when the game-engine passes a line of code telling it to atleast try. But having both goalkeepers at the same, high skill level...the CPU shoots from all over!! Mainly because it can read that it's going to take a few good shots to beat you. It's more fun.
I played a game as Barcelona vs the CPU arsenal; in fact I won 2-0 on world class because of TWO penalties! (in fact one of the goals is the one in the video where the keeper takes me down and I get a penalty) and the other penalty was because no matter how hard arsenal tried they had about 13 shots with 3 on target and my keeper handled them (his saves weren't superhuman, I put it down to arsenal having bad shots), so when I got hold of Ronaldinho and sprinted like a mofo past 3 Ars' defenders and got into the box, along came a defender, slid me down, got sent off and I slammed the ball into the back of the net! 2-0. What a feeling! I had less shots then Arsenal, but I'M THE WON THAT DID IT! Usually, it's the other way around, you have loads of shots, can't beat the keeper, then the CPU comes along, has 1 shot and scores. But not now! I've played games on V9 where the CPU has scored instantly. I played against England as Brazil and Beckham put the ball in the back of the net from outside the box (both keepers were equal, VERY high skilled) and the shot was GORGEOUS! I'd prob hit the post or see it go over, but becks did it (after all it's a cpu controlled player, but they DO put them over the bar a lot more now, for more realism) and that was in the first 8 minutes I believe in a real-time 16 minute game. Those 8 minutes of FIFA play-time was more like 1 minute if that. And THAT was the only goal to be scored in that game!!! After that goal, neither I nor the CPU could score. Was so fun knowing it was both of us having these great chances and either a defender stopping their tracks, or the keeper making a great save. But it's not impossible to beat the keepers, like I said check out the video over at ; http://www.fifa-mra.com/nkfootball and see for yourself!
Oh and although it's to be confirmed, the most likely release date for V9 is the 4th August. Next month mates.
NK.
All goals scored on world class against goalkeepers more challenging than in V8.
Oh and both goalkeepers will be equal now. What I thought would happen, indeed happened. If you reduce the user goalkeeper, the CPU doesn't attack as much and puts the ball in the back of the net when it wants to, or when the game-engine passes a line of code telling it to atleast try. But having both goalkeepers at the same, high skill level...the CPU shoots from all over!! Mainly because it can read that it's going to take a few good shots to beat you. It's more fun.
I played a game as Barcelona vs the CPU arsenal; in fact I won 2-0 on world class because of TWO penalties! (in fact one of the goals is the one in the video where the keeper takes me down and I get a penalty) and the other penalty was because no matter how hard arsenal tried they had about 13 shots with 3 on target and my keeper handled them (his saves weren't superhuman, I put it down to arsenal having bad shots), so when I got hold of Ronaldinho and sprinted like a mofo past 3 Ars' defenders and got into the box, along came a defender, slid me down, got sent off and I slammed the ball into the back of the net! 2-0. What a feeling! I had less shots then Arsenal, but I'M THE WON THAT DID IT! Usually, it's the other way around, you have loads of shots, can't beat the keeper, then the CPU comes along, has 1 shot and scores. But not now! I've played games on V9 where the CPU has scored instantly. I played against England as Brazil and Beckham put the ball in the back of the net from outside the box (both keepers were equal, VERY high skilled) and the shot was GORGEOUS! I'd prob hit the post or see it go over, but becks did it (after all it's a cpu controlled player, but they DO put them over the bar a lot more now, for more realism) and that was in the first 8 minutes I believe in a real-time 16 minute game. Those 8 minutes of FIFA play-time was more like 1 minute if that. And THAT was the only goal to be scored in that game!!! After that goal, neither I nor the CPU could score. Was so fun knowing it was both of us having these great chances and either a defender stopping their tracks, or the keeper making a great save. But it's not impossible to beat the keepers, like I said check out the video over at ; http://www.fifa-mra.com/nkfootball and see for yourself!
Oh and although it's to be confirmed, the most likely release date for V9 is the 4th August. Next month mates.
NK.
daccorn said:practise more, i posted a replay and have a goal where its 1v1 which i just slightly changed the direction of the run of my striker a bit before i tap or if ur fancy, just dribble away , the point behind distrupting the keepers positioning, if u just change a bit oof direction when ur very close to him. He'll be unable to safe it anymore.
The keepers are not impossible, i just realize a couple of days ago that its just that their positioning and footwork when they are about to make a save tats awesome, cuz somehow i chose to look at what the keeper is doing than where my striker is running
another thing for u guys saying the keeper is too hard on 1v1 situations, please post your replays and let everyone see how did u do your 1v1 and we'll justify is either the CPU keeper is just too hard or a lack of conviction and skill in your play
The keeper is not unbeatable. But whoever can beat the keeper in pro deserves to play in the legendary mode. I am sure there are alot of people out there who thinks that the keeper is too good beyond realism. Why not use the legendary mode as the benchmark, tune the keeper to a level where a very good player can still score 1 or 2, then adjust the keeper down for the remaining difficulty modes.
Canada said:
the challenge about football IS scoring, what is point for you scoring easy goals all the time ? and this patch has really made the game more challenging and not impossible. the challenge is also for u to set up a position for u to shoot... thats one point
sorry mate, just delete the patch, no hard feelings. U are someone who doesnt have time, we are players that loves football and trying to ressurect the realism of soccer in computer games tats all =)
incorrect, the ways to beat a pro keeper is not at all same as the one i can use to beat a world class keeper, they are much different and not easily fooled
gamerguy350
Reserve Team
Sorry mate, if you really loved football so much you'd play PES and not arcadey FIFA. 
daccorn said:incorrect, the ways to beat a pro keeper is not at all same as the one i can use to beat a world class keeper, they are much different and not easily fooled
doesn't mean everyone else can beat them. there are people who play this game for challenge, and there are some who play it for relaxation and enjoyment. but the keepers in v8 are just too good compared to his defenders and forwards, which makes this game look weird.
NK FOOTBALL ©
Senior Squad
daccorn said:
Well indeed, either that i I include the option to install a 'noob friendly' version so it's easier to score past the keeper?
Well, I am making progress with the CPU attack and defence to try balance out the play with the goalkeepers. It seems to be working. The CPU tries harder to score now than in V8.
NK.
NK FOOTBALL ©
Senior Squad
just beat world class in 16 mins 3-0 as man-u v B.Munich, then restarted match and drew 1-1. Pretty diverse!
NK.
NK.
gamerguy350 said:Sorry mate, if you really loved football so much you'd play PES and not arcadey FIFA.
Sorry man, you think that me, who love FIFA, I'm not loving football??
No man!Now, about the keepers, I think that they are the players of the match (in every match) on v.8. Yeah, it's not impossible to score but it is fake to have that super-natural skills! I prefer more a harder-to-brake defence than an unhuman goalkeeper. I don't wanna say sth bad about your gameplay updates NK. I just wanna give my opinions mate to make a more exiting game!!!!!!
yea, its totally alright to be suggestions like 'harder-to-break' defence than to keep saying the keeper is impossible to beat like a couple of people did, even i said that when v8 first came out.
but i think the keepers level should be kept, because i used to take for granted of the way i shoot and now i really have to consider a lot of stuff before shooting
sometimes im just lazy to crack the defence and crack a long range shot, and yea the keeper made a nice save, im not frustrated, but just merely given the chance to think what i did wrong to allow that shot to be saved. There was once i cracked a long range shot which went straight at the keeper but it was too strong and the keeper didnt hold it and bounce right back to my striker and cracked another shot the the left hand post of the keeper and he dived to save it again. a double save !! that was really awesome and what i want to see a CPU keeper can do
i even saved the replay haha
and to everyone who thinks the keeper is a bit too much, kindly post your replays to show the multiple shots being saved by the keeper if u want to help NK improve his patch. Replays says much more than words
but i think the keepers level should be kept, because i used to take for granted of the way i shoot and now i really have to consider a lot of stuff before shooting
sometimes im just lazy to crack the defence and crack a long range shot, and yea the keeper made a nice save, im not frustrated, but just merely given the chance to think what i did wrong to allow that shot to be saved. There was once i cracked a long range shot which went straight at the keeper but it was too strong and the keeper didnt hold it and bounce right back to my striker and cracked another shot the the left hand post of the keeper and he dived to save it again. a double save !! that was really awesome and what i want to see a CPU keeper can do
i even saved the replay hahaand to everyone who thinks the keeper is a bit too much, kindly post your replays to show the multiple shots being saved by the keeper if u want to help NK improve his patch. Replays says much more than words
gamerguy350
Reserve Team
The thing is with Fifa, even with this patch, I get frustrated with it when I'm 3-0 up. With PES I'm enjoying every minute of it 1-0 down.
Sorry but, it's realistic that my friend and I spent 3 hours on semi-pro in practice mode, with Brazil vs Venezuela, 11 on the goalie, and could not score a single shot from outside the box?
Using Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Adriano, Robino, none of them could score. Only one goal went in, on a low struck shot by Ronaldo I believe. Otherwise goalie would go from one post, dive into the air and punch away a shot bending for the top opposite corner. This is Venezuela. Only time we ever scored was off rebounds into a gaping net, and yes he saved some of those too, or atleast got a touch.
Using Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Adriano, Robino, none of them could score. Only one goal went in, on a low struck shot by Ronaldo I believe. Otherwise goalie would go from one post, dive into the air and punch away a shot bending for the top opposite corner. This is Venezuela. Only time we ever scored was off rebounds into a gaping net, and yes he saved some of those too, or atleast got a touch.
daccorn said:yea, its totally alright to be suggestions like 'harder-to-break' defence than to keep saying the keeper is impossible to beat like a couple of people did, even i said that when v8 first came out.
but i think the keepers level should be kept, because i used to take for granted of the way i shoot and now i really have to consider a lot of stuff before shooting
sometimes im just lazy to crack the defence and crack a long range shot, and yea the keeper made a nice save, im not frustrated, but just merely given the chance to think what i did wrong to allow that shot to be saved. There was once i cracked a long range shot which went straight at the keeper but it was too strong and the keeper didnt hold it and bounce right back to my striker and cracked another shot the the left hand post of the keeper and he dived to save it again. a double save !! that was really awesome and what i want to see a CPU keeper can do
and to everyone who thinks the keeper is a bit too much, kindly post your replays to show the multiple shots being saved by the keeper if u want to help NK improve his patch. Replays says much more than words
simple, just watch a cpu vs cpu, 14 shots on goal, none of them can go in, even if theres one goal, 90% chance its a rebound goal. its either the cpu attack sucks or the goalie is super human. in both cases, the flaw lies in the balance, its just not realistic to have poor outfield players and a super keeper.