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Official thread of Liga Argentina: Clausura [2005-2006].

Axolote

Senior Squad
El Diablo Rojo said:
Yeah, i don't think it would do him any good going to Bayern i guess he would be more fit in a place like Villarreal or Sevilla or Zaragoza.

Speaking of River transfers a guy that Ruggeri wants for San Lorenzo is Gustavo Obermann.

I wonder what will River do about the Apertura now since they will be playing Corinthians on the Libertadores.

Apparently Passarella will put this against Argentinos:

Lux
Ferrari Caceres Gerlo Mareque
Ahumada
Zapata Fernandez
Montenegro
Farias Oberman​


And against Corinthians will return Fede Dominguez, Gallardo and Santana, depending on how Augusto Fernandez play against Argentinos Jrs.


I just hope that Velez wins against Boca.
 

El Diablo Rojo

Starting XI
Man we can't snatch a victory at home since, San Lorenzo. At least this time Gimnasia J. had only 2 chances but didn't get any goal. We got many chances but couldn't finish them or Valdiviezo would ruin them, the luck still isn't with us. Also good work of Furchi for red carding Pereyra for an almost yellow card foul for his stupid eye-to-eye for that argueably red card to the player of Gimnasia J. on the first half, why the heck did he return to referying and at Independiente, gotta blame the AAA there:nape:. The qualifying to the Libertadores gets complicated, now we have Olimpo, Boca and Central left. Bielsa is the main candidate to replace Falcioni by Comparada.
 

Axolote

Senior Squad
Im sooo angry...!!!

I cant even write.

Just reality: Boca will be the champion. We wont win any game left in the Clausura.

We lost Zapata and Montenegro for the Corinthians serie. :kader:
 

Axolote

Senior Squad
I just saw the replay of Boca's Goals.

2nd goal was made by Silvestre. Before the corner, he was treated by the doctors. He should had left the pitch becouse he was treated. He stayed in the pitch and scored the goal.

And in the 3rd goal the free kick shouldn't be kicked two times.


F*ck this referee.

We loose player after player becouse of the injurys, and our players sweat blood and tears to stay in the top of both tournaments and Boca wins the tournaments thanks to the crappy referees.

Im tired of this.

If one match should be replayed in argentina for the first time, it should be Velez-Boca.

Anyway i dont think we deserve to be the champions. We lost 2 points in the 92 minute against Argentinos Jrs.
 

SnYper

Senior Squad


I don't need to say anything else...
 

El Diablo Rojo

Starting XI
Well, well the results of the matchday 16.

Independiente vs. Gimnasia J. 0-0 :(

Estudiantes LP vs. Olimpo B.B. 2-2
24' FH Ismael Blanco(PK) 0-1
16' SH José Luis Calderon 1-1
39' SH Pablo Álvarez 2-1
46' SH Javier Paez 2-2

Colón Sta. Fe vs. Lanús 1-3
14' FH Germán Denis 1-0
4' SH Diego Lagos 1-1
10' SH Leandro Gioda 1-2
13' SH Leandro Gioda(PK) 1-3

Newell's Old Boys vs. San Lorenzo 1-1
11' SH Fernando Belluschi 1-0
12' SH Walter Acevedo 1-1

Quilmes AC vs. Racing Club 0-3 :wootman:
28' FH Carlos Luna 0-1
45' FH Carlos Arano(PK) 0-2
5' SH Lucas Valdemarín 0-3

Tiro Federal vs. Gimnasia LP 0-2
3' SH Martín Cardetti 0-1
36' SH Gonzalo Vargas 0-2

Banfield vs. Instituto Cba. 2-0
9' FH Gabriel Paletta 1-0
18' FH Josemir Lujambio 2-0

Arsenal FC vs. Rosario Central 1-1
18' FH Víctor Píriz Álvez(PK) 1-0
14' SH Cristian Villagra 2-0

Vélez Sarsfield vs. Boca Juniors 2-3 (Suspended at 43' of second half)
2' FH Sebastián Ereros 1-0
26' FH Martín Palermo 1-1
40' FH Matias Silvestre 1-2
16' SH Mauro Zárate 2-2
42' SH Martín Palermo 2-3

River Plate vs. Argentinos Juniors 2-2
1' SH Jairo Patiño 1-0
14' SH Diego Rivarola 1-1
35' SH Marcelo Gallardo 2-1
47' SH Nicolas Pareja 2-2

The table.

1- Boca Juniors* 31
2- River Plate 30 +15
3- Lanús 30 +8
4- Newell's Old Boys 29
5- Gimnasia LP 28
6- Gimnasia J. 27
7- Vélez Sarsfield* 23 +5
8- Olimpo B.B. 23 +3
9- Banfield* 22 +2
10- San Lorenzo 22 +1
11- Estudiantes LP 22 -2
12- Independiente* 20 +2
13- Colón Sta. Fe 20 -4
14- Quilmes AC 19
15- Argentinos Juniors 18 -1
16- Arsenal FC 18 -2
17- Rosario Central 16
18- Racing Club 12
19- Tiro Federal 11
20- Instituto Cba. 8

*: Have an unfinished match.

About the average table, no big chanages, but the victory of Racing makes them be safe from playing the play-off and complicates Quilmes' situation, however Argentinos must win all the 3 matches left to avoid playing the play-off, Olimpo seems to be already condemned to go to the play-off.

The victory of Lanús and Banfield complicate Independiente's qualifying to the Libertadores, right now Banfield would be playing the play-off of the Libertadores, and Independiente and Lanús are both 1 point behind, however all these 3 mentioned teams would be playing the Sudamericana.

Now about Vélez-Boca, i agree with Axolote, the match should be replayed it' can't be possible that argentinian football have referees that would look like that they don't know the rules at all. If boca has to be the champion fine, but why this way? Even if it wasn't the intention it just makes the campaign of boca look dirty, and creates suspects and speculations. In top of that they won't suspend Pezzotta for the events yesterday, because it was a "limit situation" what's the limit situation? An incorrect applying of the rules, what the **** is that? Pezzotta isn't the only one, don't forget Furchi who messes up most of the time, and notice that it's like the 6th match that Estudiantes gets robbed 'cuz of the referee, even players of Olimpo admited that it wasn't penalty. Seriously they should start to sanction these referees.:kader:

Ah yeah, anyway still can't handle how lucky Boca and Palermo are, just look at the first goal of Boca.:nape:
If Independiente had the luck that Boca has we would be the champions by now.(:/)

EDIT: Forgot matchday 17 scheduling.

Friday 28/4
San Lorenzo vs. Banfield

Saturday 29/4
Olimpo B.B. vs. Independiente
Racing Club vs. Tiro Federal

Sunday 30/4
Rosario Central vs. Vélez Sarsfield
Argentinos Juniors vs. Newell's Old Boys
Gimnasia J. vs. Quilmes AC
Lanús vs. Arsenal FC
Boca Juniors vs. Estudiantes LP
Gimnasia LP vs. River Plate

Tuesday 2/5
Instituto Cba. vs. Colón Sta. Fe

I think that some are going a bit far about Agüero. http://www.kingkun.de/
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
Staff member
Moderator
Can any if you guys tell me what kind of player is San Lorenzo's Pablo Barrientos?
He seems to be linked with a move to Porto.
 

Axolote

Senior Squad
MaSsiVe said:
Can any if you guys tell me what kind of player is San Lorenzo's Pablo Barrientos?
He seems to be linked with a move to Porto.

He is good defender, he can play as a central and as a Right Back.

He has a great header.

But he makes a lots of fouls.

1 year ago he was linked to Inter.
 

MaSsiVe

Manager
Staff member
Moderator
Axolote said:
he can play as a central and as a Right Back.
that's exactly what we need (Y)

he's stilll pretty young right, so maybe the excessive fouling issue will be corrected with time.....

thanks a lot for the info dude :jap:
 

andy

Starting XI
Yes, Racing won against River Plate 2 to 0....and some people were saying that this would be a "training" match for River jajaja :ewan:
 

SnYper

Senior Squad
andy said:
Yes, Racing won against River Plate 2 to 0....and some people were saying that this would be a "training" match for River jajaja :ewan:

River: Carrizo, Alvarez, Talamonti, Tula, Pusineri, Fernández, Domingo, Mareque. Sambueza, Oberman, Abán

If Racing couldn't beat that squad, they should be forced to play the promocion. :funny:
 

andy

Starting XI
SnYper said:
River: Carrizo, Alvarez, Talamonti, Tula, Pusineri, Fernández, Domingo, Mareque. Sambueza, Oberman, Abán

If Racing couldn't beat that squad, they should be forced to play the promocion. :funny:

We don't exactly have Champions League material either.... :evil:
 

Dante_1901

Senior Squad
ronnifan9 said:
Boca can shove that trophy right up their ass when River wins the LIBERTADORES!!! :jap:

Nah, that's not gonna happen. This Libertadores is for Chivas :lui:

Y palo ... palo bonito palo eh ... somos campeones otra vez :) Dale Boca :rockman:
 

El Diablo Rojo

Starting XI
Well here the results of both 17th matchday.

San Lorenzo vs. Banfield 1-0
33' SH Leonardo Ulloa 1-0

Olimpo B.B. vs. Independiente 0-2
30' FH Emiliano Armenteros 0-1
15' SH Sergio Agüero(PK) 0-2

Racing Club vs. Tiro Federal 2-0
2' SH Carlos Arano 1-0
40' SH José Luis Villanueva 2-0

Rosario Central vs. Vélez Sarsfield 1-0
43' FH Marco Rubén 1-0

Argentinos Juniors vs. Newell's Old Boys 1-1
18' SH Franco Niell 1-0
23' SH Héctor Steinert 1-1

Gimnasia J. vs. Quilmes AC 2-1
17' SH Silvio Carrario 0-1
18' SH Daniel Ramasco 1-1
46' SH Julián Kmet 2-1

Lanús vs. Arsenal FC 3-0
3' FH Sebastian Leto 1-0
27' FH Agustin Pelletieri 2-0
30' FH Santiago Biglieri 3-0

Boca Juniors vs. Estudiantes LP 4-0
20' FH Federico Insúa 1-0
11' SH Rodrigo Pálacio 2-0
33' SH Federico Insúa 3-0
42' SH Guillermo Barros Schellotto 4-0

Gimnasia LP vs. River Plate 3-3
16' FH Martín Cardetti 1-0
22' FH Gonzalo Higuaín 1-1
8' SH Rubens Sambueza(PK) 1-2
11' SH Roberto Cornejo 2-2
36' SH Jerónimo Morales Neumann 2-3
45' SH Gonzalo Vargas 3-3

Instituto Cba. vs. Colón Sta. Fe 2-1
37' FH Dario Gonzalez 1-0
45' FH Germán Denis 1-1
46' SH Gustavo Bergessio 2-1

And the 18th matchday.

Banfield vs. Argentinos Juniors 3-1
12' SH Hernán Pages 1-0
21' SH Nicolás Gianni 1-1
26' SH José Sand 2-1
41' SH Dario Cvitanich 3-1

Arsenal FC vs. Instituto Cba. 1-1
25' FH Franco Turus 0-1
38' FH Juan Pablo Caffa 1-1

Newell's Old Boys vs. Gimnasia LP 2-3
36' FH Mauro Cejas 1-0
2' SH Ignacio Scocco 2-0
24' SH Gonzalo Vargas(PK) 2-1
29' SH Matias Escobar 2-2
42' SH Juan Carlos Ferreyra 2-3

Vélez Sarsfield vs. Lanús 0-0

River Plate vs. Racing Club 0-2 :o
38' FH Maximiliano Moralez 0-1
46' SH Claudio Fileppi 0-2

Tiro Federal vs. Quilmes AC 1-1
45' FH Silvio Carrario 0-1
46' SH Sebastián Sáez 1-1

Olimpo B.B. vs. Gimnasia J. 1-0
3' SH Jesús Méndez 1-0

Independiente vs. Boca Juniors 0-2 :(
36' FH Rodrigo Palacio 0-1
1' SH Martín Palermo 0-2

Estudiantes LP vs. Rosario Central 1-1
2' FH Ramón Fernandez 1-0
40' SH Marco Rubén 1-1

Colón Sta. Fe vs. San Lorenzo 0-1
1' FH Ezequiel Lavezzi 0-1

The table.

1- Boca Juniors 40
2- Lanús 34
3- Gimnasia LP 32
4- River Plate 31
5- Newell's Old Boys 30 +9(26-17)
6- Gimnasia J. 30 +9(24-15)
7- San Lorenzo 28
8- Olimpo B.B. 26
9- Banfield* 25
10- Vélez Sarsfield 24
11- Independiente* 23 +2
12- Estudiantes LP 23 -6
13- Rosario Central 20 -4
14- Colón Sta. Fe 20 -6
15- Quilmes AC 20 -10
16- Argentinos Juniors 19 -3
17- Arsenal FC 19 -5
18- Racing Club 18
19- Instituto Cba. 12 -21
20- Tiro Federal 12 -23

*: The 13 minutes of Independiente vs. Banfield will be played the wednesday with closed stadium.

The last matchday, it will be the next week-end however the days that each match will be played isn't confirmed yet.

Argentinos Juniors vs. Colón Sta. Fe
Boca Juniors vs. Olimpo B.B.
Gimnasia J. vs. Tiro Federal
Gimnasia LP vs. Banfield
Instituto Cba. vs. Vélez Sarsfield
Lanús vs. Estudiantes LP
Quilmes AC vs. River Plate
Racing Club vs. Newell's Old Boys
San Lorenzo vs. Arsenal FC

Of the teams that will stay on the first division, Quilmes has the worst average for the next season. The bottom 4 of the average table will not have any changes regardless the scores of the last matchday.

The victory of San Lorenzo makes complicated the goal of Independiente of qualifying the Libertadores, a point in the final vs. Banfield could be crucial.

Once again River receives a goal on the last minute, however they were already losing against Racing. The last time Boca became champion at Independiente's stadium(match that Independiente won 4-1) the same day Racing won over River too(Racing won 3-2 there), which is odd when you think about it because River has an adventage of over 45 matches won against Racing, in the River-Racing history.

If Racing wins their last match thwy would've won 5 matches in a row and they couldn't do that since the season 87/88 where, ironically, the champion was Independiente.

You may have noticed that after the Pezzotta's incident referees now are using those headphones like in the champions league, however this doesn't seem to work properly yet, some said that it is useless, it didn't show to be useful at all, for example once again Pezzotta making up a foul to disallow a goal because he didn't see the lineman, and also some used it for a half then took it away for the second half because they found it annoying and not working properly. At any rate this thing was going to be used since the next season.

About Independiente's matches, first against Olimpo well about time it happens otherwise than most of the matches, the other team made a lot of chances but in some few Independiente scored 2 goals, however this match turned dirty after the ******* Pezzotta screwed up showing yellow card for Agüero for a challenge that wasn't even a foul, so when he noticed his mistake started to be harsh with Olimpo players, showing 2 red cards to Olimpo 2 minutes later from nowhere, then the argueable red card to Roa(which should have been yellow), such thing ruined the effort and good intentions to play of the players from both teams, in a match that could have been way better.
On Boca's match, well it's interesting how no one talked about how did Independiente play but only to blame Ustari for the first goal of Boca, some say that without Agüero playing against Independiente was like nothing, but then again with Agüero or wihout Agüero Independiente still has the same deffect from other matches making many goal chances but not scoring any goal, no one even mentioned that Ojeda, who is a 19 year old that is the 8th forward of Independiente, had an easy time with that overrated and overhyped "cata" Diaz that most of the media always gloats that he should go into the national team.:funny: Get serious. Neither that Machín completely owned in the left. More likely Independiente's plan was thrown down with Caceres injury.

Now i got a small rant, who the heck does Boca think they are? They were pretending this match to be played at Racing's stadium because Independiente would give Boca only 3,000 tickets(Independiente actually could have given 20,000 tickets), when on the Apertura Boca did the same to Independiente and also had chances to get the championship. and actually Boca does the same to all the other teams. So why does Boca need special treatment by the COPROSEDE? Then after campaigns from Independiente's supporters for the match not to be played or that if it was going to be played at Racing's stadium then no supporters should go, also Comparada declarations against Boca and then Macri answering. After all Comparada offered Boca 4,000 tickets and that if they wanted 10,000 Independiente would keep all the income from them, which is what happened after all.

On Independiente these loans will finish with the season, Lorgio Alvarez, Cesar Pereyra, Lucas Biglia, Fernando Caceres, Marcelo Méndez, Martín Pautasso and Esteban Bujan. Of these Alvarez is confirmed to stay, Biglia more likely will too, and to be confirmed Caceres' situation. But also some players would return to Independiente due loans finishing, like Pusineri, Lorefice, Losada, Melnicchuk, and others.
 


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