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OperationSports.com gives FIFA 07 a "9"

LuvPES

Youth Team

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
My review summary:

Gameplay: 7.5 (big improvement especially ball physics. Players bouncing off each other are bad, control has to be a bit more responsive, Headers need more work, aerial game is lacking, AI tweeked a bit, ball sticking to net even at 70 mph gotta go).
Graphics: 8.0 Nice pitches, most stadia look good, Very choppy cut scenes,Guti looks like that guy from "In the Mouth of Madness", Bernabeu doesn't have Marca ads, Orgullo Vikingo banners, banners, spanish flags, etc,)
Audio: 8.0 (nice chants but some are old and nonrelative (i.e: Campeones cahnt in Bernabeu stadium!, glitches during subs, commentary is way in front of play and sometimes get excited by a shot form 90 yards out., overall fairly solid, music tracks are excellent as always)
Online: 10 amazing!
Replay Value: 9.0 (mostly due to online!)
Depth: 7.0 (playing manager mode gets tiring because there are no trophy celebrations (inexcusable), you play all away game sin same stadium, lack of leagues, cup tournaments, training, customization.
Overall: 8.2
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
It's strange cause I averaged out the scores posted above and I feel it doesn't deserve an 8.2 overall...weird. I think the online mode really really helped. Online aside, it's a 7
 

LuvPES

Youth Team
OrgulloVikingo said:
It's strange cause I averaged out the scores posted above and I feel it doesn't deserve an 8.2 overall...weird. I think the online mode really really helped. Online aside, it's a 7

I so beg to differ, gameplay wise I give it a 8.6
 

deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
LuvPES said:
I so beg to differ, gameplay wise I give it a 8.6
So would I as its not perfect and does have a couple bad parts, but the bad parts are nowhere near as bad as I have seen in other highly praised for its gameplay soccer games *cough PES cough*.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
deftones man! I see Werder are losing 2-0 at the Nou Camp! Sux! I was hoping Werder would win....fat chance. Gameplaywise I give Fifa a 7.5, PES a 9.
 

deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
You'd give that scripted game a 9 in gameplay................PES is a joke to even look at after watching the player and ball movement in this new FIFA.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
You'd give that scripted game a 9 in gameplay................PES is a joke to even look at after watching the player and ball movement in this new FIFA.

I give WE9, a 9.0 That's what I meant. I just feel that there is alot of freedom for the players, like they can run in 28 directions, you can actually do headers correctly and low crosses are far more realistic and have power behind it. What I don't like bout Fifa 2007 is the fact that players bounce off each other like it were bumper pool. Players like Robinho are impossible to use. I know he's not the strongest, but why does he always fall as if he were 10 kilos? Also, responsiveness needs work and themomentum needs to be slowed a bit, otherwise you keep running past players at 50 kilometers per hour. That said, it's a decent playing footy game. I particularly like the turns, passing (except some aerial), animations. Hopefully Fifa gameplay will get a 9 from me in 2008
 

deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
OrgulloVikingo said:
I just feel that there is alot of freedom for the players, like they can run in 28 directions
Mate, PES/WE is only 8 directional movement. Well 16 if using the sprint button, but this is no different from FIFA 07 on the 360.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
Mate, PES/WE is only 8 directional movement. Well 16 if using the sprint button, but this is no different from FIFA 07 on the 360.

It feels more than 8! I think it is loser, more fluid overall. It's not too hard for EA to really put out a true 9.0 Fifa in 2008. The engine is superb, animations, ball physics (best in any sport game I've played).
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
Well, I guess I can't be upset because at least you agree on that part.

I like FIFA 2007 alot. Especially compared to the prior fifa's..which were horrible. The players moved as if they were on ice skates, the ball moved as if it were a puck with a ball costume on and it was soooo scripted. Thi sFifa is a different story. Being that it is the first form this new engine, it's a good job. I have extremely high expecatations for 2008.
 

LuvPES

Youth Team
I gotta admit, it was weird playing PES the other day after playing FIFA for so long, it is clear in mind that these are two different animals, it's amazing, they play the same sport yet they play totally different, PES has the edge in the freeness of gameplay, where pretty much if you can think it, you can do it, whereas FIFA is still alil' stiff so IMO PES wins hands down, which is just an incredible feat for PES but sometimes that isn't always good, it becomes more about the user than the players attributes displayed which takes away from the individualness on the pitch BUT Fifa has a different type of freeness, it is more about the player's attributes than the user, which by itself isn't good either, at times it can become frustrating and feel like you are not in total control, but if they can find that median with PES style and stay true to FIFA, it will be EUPHORIC! because you can clearly see 11 individual entities all with strengths and weaknesses on the pitch, I love the AI in this game, you can distinctly feel the differences in players attributes, Cannavaro is freakin' impossible to get by, Grosso is all over his zone and Ronaldinho is almost impossible to stop, not to mention Ronaldo is at times greedy and a one man show on the field but pesky as hell just like in reality, this game clearly captures the inner essence of the players like no game I have seen before, it has the sort of freeness PES doesn't in that in PES over 60% of my passes I make with my back towards the oppositions goal but in FIFA it is so easy to turn around and challenge the defenders or create more space for yourself or your teamates to pass to just by merely holding on to the ball, you have more space to work with gives you time to catch your breath and strategize but the games still keeps a fast pace and flowing, how is that?, I can actually see plays developing, there was a time when I was getting burned like hell on the through balls, breakaways splitting my defence, but now I can see the holes forming in my "D" and I would respond by plugging it or I can actually maually play the offside trap, now I would average allowing 1 or 2 breakaways a game, you have to be patient on defence, everybody keep to their assignments, if you play PES style you will get burned whether it being creating holes in your "D" or just running your team ragged and don't have enough juice by the second half, this game is a true sim in every sense of the word, You can acutually feel momentum in this game and even feel the shift, you can see and feel your teams get tired, they get sluggish, passes aren't as crisp, not as fast, tired defenders start to make mistakes (10 foot one touch passes, not a good idea), therefore it forces you to become strategic, changes your game, you can feel the difference in a really good teams from average teams from the pass accuracy to the way your strikers disappear on the field. I absolutely love this game where it's the 70th minute and I am down by 1 goal just finished patiently defending and now got the ball back, I feel like a general marching down the field with his troops looking to tie the score. I love that feeling. The animation IMO is not good or great, it is absolutely spectacular! not given enough credit, very underrated at times, to say the animation in this game is "good" is a travesty, every game you swear you saw a new frame of animation, it's just that great, almost everything you see on the real pitch you saw in this game, I love when you have the ball and you beat a flatfooted defender and seeing his little leg sticking out as you skip by him, sometimes clipping you or not, Some of the hard fouls are awesome to watch and shooting in this game is absolultely sweet and smooth as a baby's behind.

FIFA IMO has done a great job putting the intricacy of football into this game, it is far from perfect, such as dribbling can be a tad easier but not like PES, I love FIFA's way you have to have a good dribbler where technique and strategy is involved, get your man out of position or flat footed. but all in all it's a great start.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
if you play PES style you will get burned

To say the least. I have still to shake off my sprinting! Too used to PES style. Little by little. I like your assesment Luvpes, it's pretty spot on. although my gripes (gameplaywise) are:

1. Players bouncing off eash other like bumper pool. Not realistic
2. No dummys, special moves, stepovers. How many stepovers does Robinho do in real life? and Ronaldo? Christiano?, etc. Probably 4 or 5 times minimal, yet these are not included in Fifa 2007! They said the moves would be context sensitive and it is a lie. I've done the whole master league and bought attributes, suped up Robinho to 99 dribbling as well as Ronaldo and still I haven't seen context based special moves. It's nonexistant.
3. "weak" players shouldn't fall 70% of challenges.
 

deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
OrgulloVikingo said:
2. No dummys, special moves, stepovers. How many stepovers does Robinho do in real life? and Ronaldo? Christiano?, etc. Probably 4 or 5 times minimal, yet these are not included in Fifa 2007! They said the moves would be context sensitive and it is a lie. I've done the whole master league and bought attributes, suped up Robinho to 99 dribbling as well as Ronaldo and still I haven't seen context based special moves. It's nonexistant.
I have to strongly disagree with you on this point. I do plently of stepovers and plenty of skill moves. IMO, I'm more than glad they got rid of the scripted trick stick and other scripted skill moves because thats what they all were..scripted. Are you really telling me you have never dribbled up to a defender and done say, stuck one foot towards the ball in one driection, the defender doesnt move, then you move your foot again and the defender starts to come after you that direction and then you snap back the other directionand blast past them. I'd say you are not finessing the joystick enough if you havent seen any of these.
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
I haven't noticed any. Maybe it's the camera angle I play on? Hey, email the admin from fifa-pro.com. Read below:

News - Change Of Players - 12-05-2006 23:34

Today a new player has enterd the league to replace one of the 2 newly available slots.
Ripton - Has taken over arsenal as BlackMagick has been ejected for exploiting.
There is the spot of reading left to fill, I have sent out a few e-mails to people who have applied after we were filled up. To take up the remaining space of reading. If anyone has a friend who would like it get in touch ASAP.
Due to this, all games that were previously played vs Arsenal and Reading need to be replayed ASAP you can get in touch with Ripton at any time to catch up. And when the 2nd new player is announced you will have to do the same with him.
I would like these matched caught up quickly, hope this is not a problem.

Thanks
 

deftonesmx17

Reserve Team
I emailed them, but I don't want to play with reading. I want to play with Werder or Bayern, so I think I am going to have to wait until the next season.
 


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