PE3 Vs Fifa2004 ----ultimate review

[Perth Glory]

fei-long: I'm good against friends but I've put more hours into the game than the lot of them put together

Will definitely take you(and the whole of SG ) up on a game if they manage to squeeze online play into PES4, will also mark the end of my social life

 

[man united forever]

Originally posted by Nottm_Forest
plus the uefa cant "MAKE" who is one group to another when its a draw....LOSER!!!

I would say something, but I should probbaly go easy on you. After all, I wouldn't expect a Forest fan to know anything about the current European system. When was the last time you were in Europe?

 

[kochung]

Re: PE3 Vs Fifa2004 ----ultimate review

First of all, I don't want to insult anybody and just want to discuss.

Mr. Nottm Forest, you said the graphics in FIFA 04 is better than PES 3 because fifa clinches it as the faces, bodies the way theey move are much more detailed and realistic.
How?
In my opinion, the players' skins in FIFA 04 don't look natural and look like zombies. And also, please pay attetion to how the players move in FIFA 2004 (maybe in replay). When a striker shoots the ball, he doesn't look at the goal nor the ball. He looks at somewhere else (maybe spectators) instead. And he knows the ball went through the white line and got into the goal without looking at the goal nor the ball.
However, in PES/WE series (not only PES3), forwards look at the ball whenever they shoot and celebrate immediately after the ball gets into the goal. Players stop running and stop looking at the balls whenever the ball goes out of bounds. They also look at the middle of the field before they make crosses, and then look back to the ball and make crosses.

Secondly, you said there are wider range of type of scores in FIFA.
In fact, the truth is the other way around.
In FIFA 2004, you can almost always get a goal when you shoot just outside the box. And you can always get goals using the same methods. Also you can't even make a short corner in FIFA 2004. Not even to mention the ball always drop into the same places in corner kicks. But I agree that the Free Kick system in FIFA 2004 is much better than FIFA 2003 though.
For PES3, first, you have to practice shooting. You always send the ball so high because you always press the shoot button too long.
Have ever seen the variety of goals can be made by PES 3?
Just look at the golden goals in some PES websites. Every goal is different and can be scored in different positions. Some goals are scored even because of defenders or keeper mistakes.
And you adjust how far the ball goes by how long you press the button, in shooting, long pass, free kicks and CORNER KICKS. (of course you can make a short corner in corner kicks) Also, please look at the control manual of PES 3 that how to take free kicks. You can kick the ball higher, lower, with spin with different button combinations and adjust the power by pressing the length. You can even shoot a ground ball if you like. Besides, you can control how the wall reacts when defending free kicks. One player jumps, 2 players jump, everyone jumps, one player runs toward the ball but other players stand still, everyone stands still................

You talked about range and depth too. Actually you were not talking about range and depth. You were just talking about license. (which can be done even by patch)
In terms of range and depth, PES 3 is years ahead of FIFA 2004. Just look at the player attributes. There are at least 3 times more in PES3 than FIFA 2004 for a player. You can see the difference when you each player, not only by appearance, but also by the way they play. Ronaldo and Owen run much faster. Raul can shoot in more positions. Zidane passes the ball much more accurate. Beckham kicks free kicks better......................
But in FIFA 2004, they are no big difference for every player.
And there are much more formations you can choose in PES 3. You can edit each position for each player, costomize to what you need. That is much better than FIFA 2004

And for Gameplay..........
The defence is tight in PES 3 because the AI in PES 3 is very good and "smart". If you feel it's too hard you can try a easier level and practice. And you can control your players however you want.
Moreover, the computer change their defense style if you want to score the same way again and again. So that you have to be creative and give variations.
In FIFA 2004, it is so rediculous that R. Carlos even never attacks. (And he is even the captain of Real Madrid. Come on, EA.......)
But Off the control is a good feature in my opinion. It gives us more freedom though. But the AI is not smart enough. They always attack in similar ways.

Sorry for this long reply and thank you for reading.

 

[Liternit]

Originally posted by Nottm_Forest

God damm you guys talk bull**** and if you not gonna say somat positive dont say nothing at all...

Me think he got banned,

I just love how he says we are talking bull****, when he got totally owned by Perth Glory about UEFA seedings. Is just funny how he missed replying to Perth Glory´s post


Nottm_Forest = OWNED

 

[niceman]

Originally posted by Nottm_Forest
Pretty List of games Fairplay....But seeing as ur greek or whatever i wont even acknoledge ur exsistence....and i bought PES3 at 10am Friday morning (the first shop opens on the day of its release) ....i bought it and played it.....it did nothing for me and it is very very basic compared to the skills and stratagies of fifa2004...So if you're are basic player who scores basic goals and plays basic boring games....It whatever floats your boat

I wont archknowledge u cause i cant spell...muaha...what an ignorant here and loser too...muaha...may u live the rest of ur life in ignorance...muaha

 

[bwfcste]

what a funny man!!! wat the hell r u on about. Fifa is total TRIPE!! I though it would be better than 2003 but not better than pro evo 3 but i wsa wrong . its worse!!!! than 2003

u have never ven played it and if you have ,not much

I learn pro evo and master it. its a very frustrating game at times, but it rules in the end. And also i enjoy making my beloved bolton wanderers as for fifa half arsed attempt. 4 first teamer missing. give me a break.

For the record i have pes3 for ps2 and have or should i say had fifa for XBox. I say had as i returned it and swapped for colin mcrae 4. they had no problem with this.

 

[Cudicini]

Originally posted by Han
I think you could have save a lot of typing if you just say:
"I am a very fanatic FIFA-fan and I do not even try to judge PES objective"

And you could save some skin by just saying:
" Hello I am Hans, I am a very fanatic PES-fan of the PES-tribe that I love and I do not try to judge FIFA in an objective manner"

 

[PhiLLer]

Can I use this "great" review as part of my stand-up comedy act? Please, I'd get a laugh out of everyone!

 

[witon]

NO you have to buy the license ....

 

[SR20DET]

Re: PE3 Vs Fifa2004 ----ultimate review

*sits back and watches the fanboys get bent out of shape*
Some of you fan boys are pathetic, but it makes me laugh so I dont mind.

 

[Perth Glory]

Re: Re: PE3 Vs Fifa2004 ----ultimate review

Originally posted by SR20DET
*sits back and watches the fanboys get bent out of shape*
Some of you fan boys are pathetic, but it makes me laugh so I dont mind.

Your posts are so ironic it's unbelievable

 

[theCRO]

haha...PG I read these debates just for your posts man, you, the Canadian10 guy, Han, Shokz and a couple of others crap me up

as well as the sig...

everyone knows my view about PES vs. FIFA, and I'm not ashamed to spell it out over and over...me and me mates picked up FIFA04 again this weekend to try and give it a proper go...it made me wanna row a row boat to Canada beat one of the FIFA programmers with a rather large trout ! I can't believe this passes for a decent footy game, in all honesty...

 

[zwank]

how dare you say the gameplay in fifa is 9 out of 10. You cant ******* dribble past defenders, the ball rolls so slow the defenders always catch up, you can always easily score from 20+ yards out, computer doesnt even ******* shoot from futher then 20+ yards for gods sake. such a discrace....

 

[Elvir]

i will say it

FIFA 2004 FOR BEGINNERS
PES3 FOR EXPERIENCED SOCCER PLAYERS

ITS THE TRUTH FIFA PLATERS YOU KNOW IT!!

DO NOT CRY

 

[killershrew]

Originally posted by Nottm_Forest
The red face....it is a totally random draw in euro cups so it is a possiblility that 3 english clubs could be in same group so obvously you dont kow that much about football ...

7mb..this is my review not urs..so i wont bother reading it....plus you are a manchester united fan...so you are either 1 of 2 things
i) Glory supporter (some1 who supports a team not local because of there glory)
ii) you know nothing about the game of football and pic the most famous team in england

i think youre number ii)

iii) you are old enough to remember Jepser Olsen, like me.

btw, the rules for the CL states (and i quote): "Clubs from the same association will not be drawn into the same group"
taken from the official CL rules at www.uefa.com

i guess reality and fact isnt intresting to most fifa fans

 

[ZhaoYun]

I stop reading the first thread then I read :-

Gameplay

pes3 - 7
fifa2004 - 8

Sorry mate, I can't agree at all.

 

[niceman]

Originally posted by killershrew
iii) you are old enough to remember Jepser Olsen, like me.

btw, the rules for the CL states (and i quote): "Clubs from the same association will not be drawn into the same group"
taken from the official CL rules at www.uefa.com

i guess reality and fact isnt intresting to most fifa fans

I remember JEsper Olsen. Here in Denmark when u make a pass to the goal keeper and its intercepted by an attacker its called the Jesper Olsen...cause he passed the Ball to Butrageno who scored a goal at the WC quarter final 1986. We should have won the damn cup

 

[killershrew]

Originally posted by niceman
I remember JEsper Olsen. Here in Denmark when u make a pass to the goal keeper and its intercepted by an attacker its called the Jesper Olsen...cause he passed the Ball to Butrageno who scored a goal at the WC quarter final 1986. We should have won the damn cup

i remember that with horror, he was my hero, even though i'm swedish, i cried (i was 10yo) but atleast he scored a penalty in the game if i'm not mistaken (1-0) and the giveaway was 1-1. Butragueno scored 4, ended 1-5. Two penalties for Spain, Michel and Butra?

 

[killershrew]

And also, i'm pretty sure it was 1/8 final not 1/4 (Denmark-Spain '86)

 

[Hakki]

Muuuaaahahahah what a funny post muuahahaha