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sa33ood;2393862 said:Hahahahaha, Nack and everyone else, you are all so overwhelmed for the fact that someone is giving PES some position in some chart, it's like you can't believe it! Do you really think that charts are what I wanted us to talk about in the first post?!
Why are you using charts to prove that a game is good or not?! I mean, if most of the people in the Leipzig convention were PES fans, dose that really make PES 2008 better than FIFA 08? I don't think so.
If you want to use charts, then ask any business analytics company, or just search the Internet for the "Best Selling games in 2006" for example.
Here is a hint: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=155866
When it is a free chart or a cheap lame forum PES fanboys burn the charts with so many hits and gets so called "first place", but when it comes to real world business it is always FIFA winning... hahah, hmmmmmmm I wonder why?!
Anyways, I don't want to start this whole "look at this chart" thingy over here, we are good enough to talk or express our opinions without using some poll done in some convention... With all do respect to all conventions, but even if FIFA is the best selling game of all time, I would not use that in my talk, simply because I know how to defend my opinions through mature talk and in-game spot on facts.
I used the example above to show you how lame you are when you use charts or reports.
God your still convinced aren't you?
This was the biggest trade show in europe! And for PES2008 to win when it's not even finished yet must mean that fifa that is finished is not upto it! Even on your so called next gen console version!
It may be good in your narrow minded view, but it's not the best is it? PES rules and you hate it for that!
fireballthunder;2394022 said:well... please stop sa33ood because we all know that Nack is just a 12-year-old-pes-fan-boy and now he's crying and peeing in his pant already haha
Nack;2394182 said:You and all your idiotic fanboy girls can go play your inferior game!
As you'd only get owned at PES because fifa takes no skill at all!
Just wait until the games are released, and you'll see how right I am!
Fifa = :-puke:
PES = :Carlos*o:
Get used to it as PES is the best football sim bar none! Just makes me laugh at how you cum at a screenshot or pre rendered skill videos!
Yeah nice if it really works like that, but it doesn't, I've played both, and PES owns big style!
anamenos;2394193 said:i believe that you work on ign...
Damn straight. I don't know why SG even bother to have a PES section.Nack;2391728 said:This forum died for PES fans ages ago!
fireballthunder;2394254 said:he didn't even play next gen fifa at all. he's such a bitch who only play pes and start to think it's the best so he'll never look at other game lol what a lame where's your brain dude?
fifa = :Carlos*o:
pes = :-puke:
OrgulloVikingo;2394451 said:Winning Eleven 9 wis my favorite game of footy pound for pound. I've played Fifa since 94 and enjoyed them until 3 or 4 years back. They were scripted garbage. Then I played NEXT GEN Fifa 2007 for the 360 = very promising but unfinished and full of bugs. UEFA CL NEXT GEN for 360 came along and they fixed alot of Fifa 2007's problems. I really enjoyed it. Now, NEXT GEN Fifa 2008 looks very very sweet. Animations are outstanding, gameplay looks good, features look nice and online looks exceptional especially since you can play 5 vs. 5 controlling only 1 character the whole time while 4 others control one each and AI controls the rest. The fact that the AI controls the rest leads me to believe that the gameplay is very vey fixed. Add to that the professional audio, menus and smooth online play, I won't bother with PES unless it is very very good. Honestly, I'm tired of the 1980s cheesy guitar rock, lame menus and cheap graphics. But then again, we;ll see. I'll dl the demo. I want to have an open mind and wont rule it out yet. In summary, I think EA is much more ambitious than Konami is, from what I've heard, read and seen. I'm also still traumatized from the debacle that was the last PES, especially on the 360. It didn't belong on a next gen machine. It was stripped down and looked like an early PS2 game and even PES diehards weren't too happy with that.
OrgulloVikingo;2393369 said:With Bioshock, Mass Effect out there, PES wins best game????????????????? BS, clearly who ever voted was a PES fan period and is not objective and knowledgeable of videogames. Clearly fanboys. PES 2008 doesnt bring anyhting refreshing to the table. Once again, people confuse current gen Fifa w/ Next Gen Fifa. Doublecheck the comparisons. PES 2008 is a slightly rehashed version of all other pes titles. If thats ok w/ you, fine. I have little confidance in Konami after the debacle debut on the 360. I thought it was a joke. They stripped the game and left it ugly and so unprofessional w/ 1980's style "music" , nasty presentation and backwards graphics. THERE IS NO NEED TO SACRIFICE GRAPHICS OVER GAMEPLAY ON THE 360 & PS3 ANYMORE. The gameplay excuse is getting old. Fifa at least has a vision and is getting there fast in the next gen. Konami just depends on its zombies who have closed minds. Anyway for those getting PES for next gen, its a waste. It won't be any different than PS2 but then again, you don't like change and improvements so enjoy.
easyeasyeasy;2394264 said:Damn straight. I don't know why SG even bother to have a PES section.
But I gotta admit some of the stuff in this thread is just turning into a tit-for-tat argument which is getting nowhere. Neither game is "crap", both have their good points and bad points. PES used to be so far ahead of FIFA years ago, but FIFA has caught up in recent years, because the developers finally realised stuff in the game needed changing for the better instead of the market-speak-driven nonsense, and actually came up with something good. PES has started slacking, which makes me wonder if Nokami are turning into the EA of the early 2000's, with the attitude of "it's alright, people will always buy it".