Popups Tutorial Required !!!

[regularcat]

Oh no, not another thread like this.
I had no problems with anybody in the fifa editing, so leave out my name of your hateful posts. I'm just editing fifa and making many tools, not more. I don't want to get into any trouble of you.
Everyone can handle with his work in his own way. Some of them want to share like me, some don't. That's ok, if they don't start trouble like this one.

IF I had enough time, I would make a popUp tool like the scoreboard too, but at the moment I cannot do that. At first, I will release a tool for the BH-files.

no problems w/ you bro, you do things many people cant PROGRAM TOOLS...

w/ that said we dont have any issues you know what its like to put many hours & tests into something to get the finished product & to have the satisfaction of knowing you did it.

but the point of this thread is the same thing as me saying to you i know you spent a lot of time making fhl switcher now can you give me the source code ?

i know you will make popup tool, thats why i wont tell where the offsets are & what the data is, i want members to finally do the long tedious process of locating offsets, then editing the btyes, to understand it min/max values.

not just run the game, open a big file & let a tool do it.

people put a lot of time into finding them offsets, anb did nothing but share cjd's base he edited w/ a hint from me & now you guys made a tool, gave cjd 0 credit & now one of the communities best editors/programmers is gone.

you 2 bit the hand that feed you & thats wrong, bottom line.

so we should just give out the same w/ the popups so you 2 can do it again.
so while you think you are doing the community a favor you are actually running out the ones who know how to do what you are trying to do.

soon there wont be nobody to answer your threads like this & it will be your own fault.

Alrite enough of this BULL***T around here, i think i did a big mistake by asking a favour of giving me the popups tutorial...i didnt know it would end up like this....
@ RC
All i said was that i wanted a tutorial on how to make them, i didnt ask for a tool or any of your files to work with, its just tutorial (telling me how to do) and then i will do on MY OWN !!!!

Everybody discovers something but that doesnt mean that releasing their work will take any credit from them + i first did a research myself before opening this thread, also found the textures in dds format but couldnt do the hex thing, and thats why i opened this thread so that someone who knows can explain me better....

So cut the long story short....FINISH THIS TOPIC !!!

again its not about credit being taken its about you doing it yourself from step 1 to the end.

step 1 is finding the offsets, not editing them via someones elses knowledge.
you little ****s call us selfish, but its you who are selfish, the ones who cant understand what it means to DO FOR YOURSELF...

i dont give 2 ****s if you make the pops from my help, the point is its always you do the hard part then we do the easy part.

this is the last mod that requires knowledge & skill to actually edit, not just using pen tool in photoshop or some programmed tool to do the hexing for you.

its a long process that anyone w/ a half a brain & the time to mess around can do.

I totally agree with you, is my first year in issue from FIFA, and as you said, people who edit PES, just make the pleasure to help and share their work, unfortunately there is today that we see some people here with petty attitudes and selfish.

again you dont know **** about this forum, if its so nice at the pes forums take your ass back to them.

this forum is lazy & selfish, always give me, give me, give me.
whens the last time i asked anyone here for anything ?
& you have the balls to call me selfish, stay in your little bubble pinhiero.

As always the truth is in the middle. From one part editing popups and scoreboard require knowledge that go on editing hex files, understand the mechanism of fifa file system and so on, knowledge that few people here have.
I think if someone will post all the offset of files to edit popups max 1-2 editer will use that to make popups. Some other will wait for someone to do first popups, edit the graphics and some offset for text and release as own forgetting the hard work behind to search the right offset, test it in game and etc etc.
Btw you want to research? well. Popups is in overlays files (ui\game\overlays) like overlay_5003,4 etc for italian league popups (if I well remember). Follow the scoreboard tutorial posted here on soccergaming (btw i haven't see any offset gudeline in that tutorial) and apply on these files, then research the offset, modify the graphics and do some 15-20 hours of testing.

holy ****, finally someone who understands where im coming from, but i guess because we are from the editing old school, not used to being handed everything we want i can see how you could feel the same way i do.

 

[Danilo Pinheiro]

There's your problem RC, you lose control in a small discussion. I have been observing since I came to this forum, you want to be the owner of all truth, and you find yourself in a position to give their opinion on everything. And yes, you have the selfish thought, in fact this whole thread was created simply because you once again found himself in the right to challenge everyone and everything.

But as said the first time, this is just a discussion about a "game", like me, many are new here, and want to somehow contribute to the forum, but seeing that unfortunately it is moderated by people like you, it will alienate more and more people in SG.

peace

 

[regularcat]

There's your problem RC, you lose control in a small discussion. I have been observing since I came to this forum, you want to be the owner of all truth, and you find yourself in a position to give their opinion on everything. And yes, you have the selfish thought, in fact this whole thread was created simply because you once again found himself in the right to challenge everyone and everything.

But as said the first time, this is just a discussion about a "game", like me, many are new here, and want to somehow contribute to the forum, but seeing that unfortunately it is moderated by people like you, it will alienate more and more people in SG.

peace

na not really though bro.

if you want to contribute something to the forum because you are new to sg & fifa, then make a kit, make some logos, so something easy.

you just get here & your gonna tell me that the first thing you want to give is scoreboards & pop ups ?

you dont have the knowledge of the game, the files & their structure yet you want to make such an advanced mod.

i know you are good w/ photoshop, you know almost all the brazilian kits are generic ?

do you know that 4 teams from vanilla fifa brasiliero are incorrect ?

why dont you do that for start, its simple, you can handle it & it will help the forum.

as far as observing me since you joined means nothing, if you read back 3 1/2 years you will see this isnt how ive always been, 3 1/2 years is a lot to read back through but you will see for yourself.

i was helped 2x once by md & once by 87, every other question ive asked or tutorial requested i was completely ignored.

it wasnt until i learned how to do things by myself that 87 & md payed any attention to me, but by then i didnt need the help.

i just treat certain requests & help threads the way i was treated from my initial registration here.

so i see it as if i had to learn the hard way its only right everyone else does also.

im not a bad guy ask the people who like me, respect me & understand the way i feel, sometimes i get out of line but after 3 1/2 years of the same bs i get to the point where i just dont give 2 ****s.

i have answered 5x the amount of help threads, help pms & have a contact list in msn which is 80% full of people who needed fifa support which since i helped them have never heard from again.

you have me confused w/ someone you think i am from your little time here at the forum, so dont get me twisted & im surely not gonna take **** from a newbie here like you, anb or uzair.

as a person w/ his own mind you will take things the way you wanna take regardless of the content of what it is im posting which ive come to learn to deal w/.

people are cool w/ you when you have something for them or help them but when thats not the case they could care less about you.

thats just the way the world works, so again take things i say the way you want to take them, it means nothing to me.

the problem lies here, these newbies want to be some sort of forum legends, want to take on things way beyond what they are capable of doing for some form of forum fame.

i do what i do for my game, & share to be nice, my game, my files, my choice, but by no means do i need to do anything i dont want to.

uzair knows there are only a handful of editors here who can do what he is requesting, the originators of hexed edited file md/fifacitiu created the base for late fifa 08 for scoreboards, then fifac stopped, md took over, he stopped due to people stealing his work & he went from legend to a nobody cause the people who loved him so much **** on him because he wasnt giving them anything anymore.

cjd left because anb used his base, edited it, turned it over to bernd which he didnt give permission for, hes gone.

im the only one left w/ the knowledge of the types of files, uzair already knew once the sb tool was made i wasnt giving out the info, he knew md & cjd are done w/ the community, WHY DID HE CREATE THE THREAD ?

so now you know why i feel the way i do, why i do what i do & just a little bit of the whats been going on at this forum in the past 3 1/2 years.

this forum died when ariel, hrvoje, bream, md & duong left, ah sg was the **** back then.

 

[Danilo Pinheiro]

Stay calm, do not you or anyone is going to teach me some values ​​about life.

what about the things I see just how my mind works, this is not correct, since the interpretation has to be about something impartially.

and frankly I feel that you are worn with some events that happened here in the past, but you need to see that people like me do not know doque happened in the past, then his approach might be different.

I personally never had problems with you, I just think their approach with some newbies, sometimes it is thick, bearing in mind that you know all the ways of the game, and this is often discouraged people, who in a future next, may well contribute to the forum.

as you said a while ago RC, I do not want to create a war of words with you, let alone change their way of thinking about things, just think correctly, that you consider your approach towards the many beginners, because is possible to see who is here to help, and who just wants to suck other people's work.

 

[Uzair]

First of all i dont know a thing about md and cjd and dont even know when they left and why ?? This is the first time i'm doing this kind of editing work, getting inspired by others and made facess for the community, though i decided to do a bigger project WC 2010 Patch.....
RC, you have programming knowledge unlike us and just bcz nobody helped you in popups and you discovered yourself you want everyone who want any tutorial for popups to first get the knowledge of programming an all files and then research themselves...I'm sorry but this cannot be expected that's impossible....
Moreover newbies like me who are doing modding for first time and did other stuff like faces before, all we want is some info,help,tutorial cuz we dont have enough programming or hex knowledge that you have.....You must be in this modding this before and i'm glad that you have discovered many hidden things, that is the difference b/w you and us.....you have programming knowledge and experiance that we dont have !!!
I could have simply opened a thread asking for popups i want, thats laziness not doing or trying to do the work yourself !!!

And Yes i opened this thread cuz i wanted someone or try myself to make WC popups that i want badly for my patch, not knowing anything abt md or cdj.....YOU CANNOT EXPECT EVERYONE TO FIGURE OUT DIFFICULT THINGS BY THEMSELVES IN THE FIRST STAGE OF THEIR MODDING and as far as laziness is concerned everybody doesnt belong to this technical field and dont know a thing or either dont want to learn abt the technical things thats why they ask for help....though i'm not one of them i already said that i did research of my own before openiing this thread but got puzzuled in the hex thing....... You said et this thing riteyou didnt figured this thing out when you first start modding and nobody helped you and then after 2/3 years you did it yourself..so that means i'll also have to w8 atleast one year before i g

If you dont want to help its ok, your choice BUT Lets finish this debate which is going on meaningless with everybody trying to explain their POV

 

[Bernd]

@regularcat: What you write is totaly wrong.
In the credits I wrote CJD17 and before I asked him, if I can use his base for my tool. So, whats your problem? I do all my work in this way. I never released something without permissions of others.
Here you can see the credits of the FHL-Scoreboard-Tool:
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168299


Here you can see my pn to cjd and his answer:

Originally Posted by Bernd
Hi,
I will start with working on a tool for scoreboards soon. Would be nice if you gave me the permission to use your scoreboard as a template for the tool. You will be written in the credits of cause.
I hope you will give a answer if it's ok or not.
Wishes
Bernd

cjd:

sure...no problem

________________

 

[Bajzik]

all the lad asked for was some help not all this????? if people don't want to help or release projects fine, but don't state that you can do some thing then not help.


i don't get this community its full of people back stabbing and demanding....ive come over from a pes community which was very friendly and helped people with problems, this one does not seem to (there is a few people who do and this rant isn't aimed at you).

And the quote that "people are lazy" makes me laugh, people are not lazy they just don't know where to start or how to hex or how to make a program, that's why they open threads like this for help or a tutorial so they can do there own work, and when people make great tools for people to use GREAT.

Great because it gives people who might not be good at hexing or modding a chance to make a scoreboard or boots or kits or any other item that makes Fifa or pes or any other game better and more enjoyable.

Isn't that the reason we all spend our own time doing this, none of us get paid or alot of the time get thanked........but we still do it WHY.......????


Because we enjoy it

now that rants over lets get back to being a community and help again

thumbs up

 

[ANBSeth]

adding to bernd's post: lawyered ^^

 

[cjd17]

First of all i did give permission to Berd to use my base for his tool. But now i regret it.
People might say thats being selfish and god alone knows wat else. But i give a sh*t.
Only few people like fifaCCitiu.com, MD and RC know how Sh*t hard it is to make a base. It took my 40 hrs + (actually way more than that) to make a base. Now every1 is using it and hardy any1 gives credit. It might said "they didnt know its your base " and all but it still pisses me off.
Then the was the RELO4DED11 incident . The fool stole my Scoreboard and claimed it was his. How funny was it?? That was then end of the line for me.


Just wanted to state how I feel. No hard feelings.
Peace

 

[regularcat]

Stay calm, do not you or anyone is going to teach me some values ​​about life.

what about the things I see just how my mind works, this is not correct, since the interpretation has to be about something impartially.

and frankly I feel that you are worn with some events that happened here in the past, but you need to see that people like me do not know doque happened in the past, then his approach might be different.

I personally never had problems with you, I just think their approach with some newbies, sometimes it is thick, bearing in mind that you know all the ways of the game, and this is often discouraged people, who in a future next, may well contribute to the forum.

as you said a while ago RC, I do not want to create a war of words with you, let alone change their way of thinking about things, just think correctly, that you consider your approach towards the many beginners, because is possible to see who is here to help, and who just wants to suck other people's work.

all im saying is dont judge me off of your time here.

i get like that w/ newbies because they register & immediately create a thread that the forum rules say not to create.

not all newbies are the same therefore they dont all get treated that way.

First of all i dont know a thing about md and cjd and dont even know when they left and why ?? This is the first time i'm doing this kind of editing work, getting inspired by others and made facess for the community, though i decided to do a bigger project WC 2010 Patch.....
RC, you have programming knowledge unlike us and just bcz nobody helped you in popups and you discovered yourself you want everyone who want any tutorial for popups to first get the knowledge of programming an all files and then research themselves...I'm sorry but this cannot be expected that's impossible....
Moreover newbies like me who are doing modding for first time and did other stuff like faces before, all we want is some info,help,tutorial cuz we dont have enough programming or hex knowledge that you have.....You must be in this modding this before and i'm glad that you have discovered many hidden things, that is the difference b/w you and us.....you have programming knowledge and experiance that we dont have !!!
I could have simply opened a thread asking for popups i want, thats laziness not doing or trying to do the work yourself !!!

And Yes i opened this thread cuz i wanted someone or try myself to make WC popups that i want badly for my patch, not knowing anything abt md or cdj.....YOU CANNOT EXPECT EVERYONE TO FIGURE OUT DIFFICULT THINGS BY THEMSELVES IN THE FIRST STAGE OF THEIR MODDING and as far as laziness is concerned everybody doesnt belong to this technical field and dont know a thing or either dont want to learn abt the technical things thats why they ask for help....though i'm not one of them i already said that i did research of my own before openiing this thread but got puzzuled in the hex thing....... You said et this thing riteyou didnt figured this thing out when you first start modding and nobody helped you and then after 2/3 years you did it yourself..so that means i'll also have to w8 atleast one year before i g

If you dont want to help its ok, your choice BUT Lets finish this debate which is going on meaningless with everybody trying to explain their POV

to me its not about who can program & who cant, your not programming your simply editing a file in a hex editor & looking in game for a change.

its not that hard, its just tedious & take a lot of time, which i just dont see you wanting to put in.

the point is if i were to give you just 1 offset then from there its nothing but easy for you, how you think anb figured it out ?

he used a hint found an offset, figured out 1 thing & from there he figured it all out, ask him how hard it actually is to edit it once you have found everything.

the hard part is taking the time, in & out of game until you managed to find something.

@regularcat: What you write is totaly wrong.
In the credits I wrote CJD17 and before I asked him, if I can use his base for my tool. So, whats your problem? I do all my work in this way. I never released something without permissions of others.
Here you can see the credits of the FHL-Scoreboard-Tool:
http://www.soccergaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168299


Here you can see my pn to cjd and his answer:



cjd:

________________

adding to bernd's post: lawyered ^^

yea usually you are good about that bernd, no complaints there.
its just funny to me that in everyones scoreboards i only see you & anb getting credited.

your credits arent possible w/o cjd is my point, so again my point is shown once again, an advanced editor figures it out, then the newb who used it
gets all his credit.

thumbs up

why are you even posting ?

First of all i did give permission to Berd to use my base for his tool. But now i regret it.
People might say thats being selfish and god alone knows wat else. But i give a sh*t.
Only few people like fifaCCitiu.com, MD and RC know how Sh*t hard it is to make a base. It took my 40 hrs + (actually way more than that) to make a base. Now every1 is using it and hardy any1 gives credit. It might said "they didnt know its your base " and all but it still pisses me off.
Then the was the RELO4DED11 incident . The fool stole my Scoreboard and claimed it was his. How funny was it?? That was then end of the line for me.


Just wanted to state how I feel. No hard feelings.
Peace

never no hard feelings between you & i bro & i know 100% how you feel.

 

[Bajzik]

why are you even posting ?

I think that this forum is free to post and not even your topic

 

[LA_Platinum]

Well,Uzair,you and your proponents are completely WRONG.There can't,just can't be a popups tutorial or tool for doing' em easy,because the guys who do them spend hours and hours and hours,to do them right.If sb comes out and makes a tool,and everyone can make a popup in much less of a time,then the painful work done is stroken by an eraser and gone.
What is the value of it then?NOTHING.Hours and hours for just NOTHING.And you might reply that we are a community and such,but,think of it:the creators spend much time.Why don't you have patience to do it your own?It needs skill and patience.If u don't have basic skill,then how can a tutorial help you?HOW?If you don't know what e.g. a hex editor is,then how can a tut help you make sth related?It needs skills to do some things.Oh,and,reg,agree with you man.Not going to list your post,but agree there with everything you said.Damn.

@Bajzik.Post sth useful,not just spam "thumbs up" and bull****.

 

[regularcat]

Well,Uzair,you and your proponents are completely WRONG.There can't,just can't be a popups tutorial or tool for doing' em easy,because the guys who do them spend hours and hours and hours,to do them right.If sb comes out and makes a tool,and everyone can make a popup in much less of a time,then the painful work done is stroken by an eraser and gone.
What is the value of it then?NOTHING.Hours and hours for just NOTHING.And you might reply that we are a community and such,but,think of it:the creators spend much time.Why don't you have patience to do it your own?It needs skill and patience.If u don't have basic skill,then how can a tutorial help you?HOW?If you don't know what e.g. a hex editor is,then how can a tut help you make sth related?It needs skills to do some things.Oh,and,reg,agree with you man.Not going to list your post,but agree there with everything you said.Damn.

@Bajzik.Post sth useful,not just spam "thumbs up" and bull****.

no doubt man, as long as someone can see the purpose of my posts then thats all i care.

as far as bijzik his posts aint worth reading useless w/ nothing said in them.
just another newbie looking for a handout.

im done, w/ this said i have nothing against the people in this post, it is what it is & it will get left alone & so will pop ups until someone comes along w/ a base for them.

 

[Bajzik]

no doubt man, as long as someone can see the purpose of my posts then thats all i care.

as far as bijzik his posts aint worth reading useless w/ nothing said in them.
just another newbie looking for a handout.

im done, w/ this said i have nothing against the people in this post, it is what it is & it will get left alone & so will pop ups until someone comes along w/ a base for them.

learn how to write nicknames right, regulardog

 

[Bernd]

The differences are very easy to note:

Some of us are editing fifa just for fun and to help other people making fifa better. (like rinaldo, outsider87, me and many others)

Some of us are editing fifa and want to get fame an want to make a mark.
That's the difference and that won't change.

We all have to accept this. So do what you want but everyone has to stop shouting at the other group.

 

[Andreasmax]

The differences are very easy to note:

Some of us are editing fifa just for fun and to help other people making fifa better. (like rinaldo, outsider87, me and many others)

Some of us are editing fifa and want to get fame an want to make a mark.
That's the difference and that won't change.

We all have to accept this. So do what you want but everyone has to stop shouting at the other group.

+1

Unfortunately, there are some other thoughts, pure ego

 

[regularcat]

learn how to write nicknames right, regulardog

you still posting ?

The differences are very easy to note:

Some of us are editing fifa just for fun and to help other people making fifa better. (like rinaldo, outsider87, me and many others)

Some of us are editing fifa and want to get fame an want to make a mark.
That's the difference and that won't change.

We all have to accept this. So do what you want but everyone has to stop shouting at the other group.

agreed & im not yelling at anyone just stating my side & how i feel.
i edit fifa to better MY game, what i share w/ the world is up to me.

i have no problem sharing anything that anyone can make, its the things undone by the world i wont share because i wont be used as a base.

nothing is free in this world & i have earned everything i have, i have never been handed anything.

momma said if you want something to do what you gotta do to possess it.

+1

Unfortunately, there are some other thoughts, pure ego

now are we pointing fingers & name calling andreasmax or calling me an egotistic person ?

id like to think not cause lets not get me started on some things youd prolly rather newbies to not know.
im still waiting for my cut btw.

 

[Andreasmax]

now are we pointing fingers & name calling andreasmax or calling me an egotistic person ?

id like to think not cause lets not get me started on some things youd prolly rather newbies to not know.
im still waiting for my cut btw.

Check a few times by your posts here. If you read some contributions from you, unfortunately you come to the conclusion. We are all one community, no matter what we contribute.

 

[regularcat]

Check a few times by your posts here. If you read some contributions from you, unfortunately you come to the conclusion. We are all one community, no matter what we contribute.

yea 1 community where its always the same giving & the same taking.

ego has nothing to do w/ that, i say what i say because im one of the few in the massive ratio of givers to takers, there are members here who have registered in 05 & 06 you are still taking & never once attempted to give.

it disgusts me, you never get thanks for anything its always complaints of what they dont like instead of just being happy w/ what you give them.

in this case it was scoreboards, but that wasnt good enough now its popups.

what will it take at this forum to actually get people motivated to want to do something on their own from scratch & not complain when someone decides not to give them something ?

im far from an egotist bro, all you people who think i am need to realize this & apparently a member & master editor for years, fifacitiu's words still arent enough to make people understand where we come from.

& after trying from being nice about to being a dick about it, people still just refuse to take the initiative to try something from scratch.

im tired of the give me i want a handout, complaining, whinny ass members
who dont appreciate anything you give from something as simple as a league logo to a gameplay patch that has taken months of your time to get at least half ass realistic.

its time to pay respect to the ones who give instead of being a cry baby all the time.

look what the community did to monkeydragon the kid released patch after patch, tool after tool, he was the forum favorite, he stops sharing & noone has 1 good thing to say about him now.

all because he stopped sharing, you say community & i say a joke.

who here is truly your friend andreasmax ?

 

[Andreasmax]

my friends? All Fifa player.
We all have yet to start small. We asked and it was helped. We were given tips and good advice. When we share our experiences do not continue as long as there is still editing and modders?
I respect anyone that Fifa improved, no matter what. But there will be more users who can now not the time. But for this we make us all the work.

newbies, we were also times