RD86 Boots

[Samson]

This tool looks awesome! Finally a way to make bumps and reflexes without photoshop and nvidia plugin.

Could you maybe recommed some settings to emulate F14 style bumps and reflexes? I've tried playing around with the tool a bit but didn't really manage to achieve the right reflex style/color.

Also @RedDevils86 any cnahce you still have the textures from those Euro 2008 country-specific adidas F50.8 you made a while ago?
I've only managed to find/recover the Germany one

I think I got this but in FIFA 22 ..if I nit mistaken I've got 4 colourways

 

[pao4ever]

I've got a suggestion. Maybe take the FO4 predator remake model and make the predator 2008? I can help you with the normal and the coeff

 

[shone90]

@ V.K. The best thing for normals is to make simple colours boots in no more than 2 or 3 colours, with darker colours for seems/saw and shadows and lighter colours for base boot. So when you import that file in Pix and make normals, seems and things you want will be more visible and you can adjust that.

Somethimes i'm using this method with normals for kits but rare cause it's different, kits don't need to have stronger lines like boots.

For reflex if you want to have also some kind of bumped look, didn't tried something like that, but maybe you can do also simple version colour base with darker parts you want to be bumped (like in image you send, you just need pink parts to be bumped, instead of pink make them gray) than import in Pix, save, and than recolour normals you get to match that pink and combine with white base. It is maybe a stupid procces and long process but that came across my mind how would i do it at the moment.

 

[RedDevils86]

Great thing is you coming back, i only used yours boots in early fifa's. Looking forward to see your work again.

For bumps and reflexes you can try software called PixPlant Portable version, easy to use with multiple editing options, some examples:

WOW Thanks for showing me this tool. I'll start testing it with my textures. I may have some questions to follow.

 

[RedDevils86]

Also @RedDevils86 any cnahce you still have the textures from those Euro 2008 country-specific adidas F50.8 you made a while ago?
I've only managed to find/recover the Germany one

I only have the Germany & Russia f50.8. But one of my main goals with returning to bootmaking is making a lot of old boot designs (Old predators, f50.8, f50.7, f50.6, etc) on the newer, more closer to the actual boot 3d model.

 

[V.K]

I only have the Germany & Russia f50.8.

Yes I have those two as well, however I swear I remember seeing others like Spain and Sweden in your thread over a decade ago

Adidas F50.8 Spain

Adidas F50.8 Poland

Enjoy

More Euro F50.8 later this week

one of my main goals with returning to bootmaking is making a lot of old boot designs (Old predators, f50.8, f50.7, f50.6, etc) on the newer, more closer to the actual boot 3d model.

This sounds awesome! We have quite a few of modern boot makers, but barely classic ones for the F11-16 format.
Just fyi I have been compiling an automatic classi bootpack (see Sputnik) where you can download and see which boots from which eras don't exist/only exist in LQ/could use an update.


@shoneroma90 Thanks for your input, however I feel like I'm not really following.
Here is an example of a boot texture I need a to create a reflex for (there are many more colorways, bump already available):

I guess I need to make it pink and highlight the Nike swooshes, but how do I do that?

 

[pao4ever]

Yes I have those two as well, however I swear I remember seeing others like Spain and Sweden in your thread over a decade ago




This sounds awesome! We have quite a few of modern boot makers, but barely classic ones for the F11-16 format.
Just fyi I have been compiling an automatic classi bootpack (see Sputnik) where you can download and see which boots from which eras don't exist/only exist in LQ/could use an update.


@shoneroma90 Thanks for your input, however I feel like I'm not really following.
Here is an example of a boot texture I need a to create a reflex for (there are many more colorways, bump already available):

I guess I need to make it pink and highlight the Nike swooshes, but how do I do that?

That's a boot I'd like to have its coeff, as well. But always the best way to make the normal/coeff is when creating it. In fact, I have 3 templates for each boot: one for the texture, one for the normal and one for the coeff

 

[V.K]

That's a boot I'd like to have its coeff, as well. But always the best way to make the normal/coeff is when creating it. In fact, I have 3 templates for each boot: one for the texture, one for the normal and one for the coeff

Yeah in most cases with the new F22/F16 boots there are bumps but no reflexes suitable for my F14 use, so I've been trying to find ways of generating them, without much luck so far.

 

[RedDevils86]

Yes I have those two as well, however I swear I remember seeing others like Spain and Sweden in your thread over a decade ago

What thread is that in? I can't find it in all my files. I have tried to recover an old hard drive all my old boots pics & files. I could only find my work from 09-11. Sorry I might try to recreate on newer model though. I know I made whole set for 08 model.

If I redo, I won't make full set though.

 

[RedDevils86]

This sounds awesome! We have quite a few of modern boot makers, but barely classic ones for the F11-16 format.
Just fyi I have been compiling an automatic classi bootpack (see Sputnik) where you can download and see which boots from which eras don't exist/only exist in LQ/could use an update.

I had a look at this it looks great. Are you ok with using the F04 3d models? Let me know which boots in particular you would want?

Yes, I am open to requests!!!! (Zero guarantee they'll definetely get made, but no harm in asking)

 

[shone90]

@V.K You could try recolouring separate parts in photoshop, or make completely new from scratch. I don't really know how reflex works in fifa, but i think darker parts should be maybe pink and lighter ones white. It is playing and testing colours to archieve desired effect. DIdn't tested myself, @RedDevils86 knows more about reflex.

And since i mentioned RD, i saw you taking requests. If you are willing, here is an easy one from early days, it's Diadora rtx 14 if i'm not mistaken ( Totti ):

Don't have to be realistic, you can work on any model you want or you are working on, make it some kind of modern fantasy Diadora boots.

 

[RedDevils86]

@shoneroma90 Here you go. Let me know if this is ok. Can't remember why Oedit previews are flipped. Also its 512x512

 

[RedDevils86]

@V.K You could try recolouring separate parts in photoshop, or make completely new from scratch. I don't really know how reflex works in fifa, but i think darker parts should be maybe pink and lighter ones white. It is playing and testing colours to archieve desired effect. DIdn't tested myself, @RedDevils86 knows more about reflex.

Sorry I don't know much about reflex or bumps. If it were up to me, it would just be 1 x texture image file. That's it lol

 

[shone90]

Thank you man, looks amazing! Will try them.

You are right about textures, i also don't spend much time on bumps for kits, it sure looks better with them but main texture is more important.

@V.K You can ignore reflex, just use normal and texture .png, and use blank file for reflex (complete pink for example).

 

[V.K]

What thread is that in? I can't find it in all my files.

As you can see in the quote, it's the RD86's Boots thread in FIFA 08 section.

Sorry I might try to recreate on newer model though.

Sounds great!

Are you ok with using the F04 3d models?

Generally speaking it should be fine, as long as the boot works with F16 it can be used in F14 with Tokke's awesome convertor now. However it would be helpful to be able to check the model ingame first, of course.

Let me know which boots in particular you would want?

I'll try to make a list of the most needed boots. Problem is, there are some very iconic and widely used colorways which have been omitted by the author when they made e.g. adidas Predator 2006 or Nike Mercurial III 2006, so I don't know if you'd be interested in recoloring/recreating or spending time to create them from scratch.
Something that instantly comes to mind as unmade is adidas F50.6 from 2005-2007 era.

@V.K You can ignore reflex, just use normal and texture .png, and use blank file for reflex (complete pink for example).

Maybe it's the case in F16, but with F14's engine bumps and reflexes play a big role, without them the boot looks like glossy plastic, here's a comparison of boots with and without bump:

 

[RedDevils86]

I'll try to make a list of the most needed boots. Problem is, there are some very iconic and widely used colorways which have been omitted by the author when they made e.g. adidas Predator 2006 or Nike Mercurial III 2006, so I don't know if you'd be interested in recoloring/recreating or spending time to create them from scratch.
Something that instantly comes to mind as unmade is adidas F50.6 from 2005-2007 era.

Those are some I’m planning to make on the newer FO4 models.

please make a list and some photos for reference. I should be able to find sufficient images to make a texture from.

 

[shone90]

@V.K It does look wrong. Did you put tansparent background instead of reflex?
Try with completely pink background, it should be better i hope. Put screenshot to see results.

 

[V.K]

@V.K It does look wrong. Did you put tansparent background instead of reflex?
Try with completely pink background, it should be better i hope. Put screenshot to see results.

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I always use completely pink png when there is no custom reflex texture, that what boots look like ingame indeed without one.

 

[pao4ever]

@V.K It does look wrong. Did you put tansparent background instead of reflex?
Try with completely pink background, it should be better i hope. Put screenshot to see results.

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If you're gonna use this as a general coeff, you gotta reduce the transparency to at least 50%, otherwise the boot will look like it's made out of fabric

 

[RedDevils86]

WIP - F50.6 This could not have been done without the help of my great friend @pao4ever providing this great model & base texture. He has been very helpful & very encouraging in this venture back into bootmaking. It's been YEARS!!!! since I've done any bootmaking, so I'm taking my time with this one. Hopefully after this one, they'll start getting quicker to make. I'll try to finish this one by the end of the week.

This one is an indication of the boots I will like to be making. OLD/Retro boot models. F50.6-7-8, Predators, Mercurials, etc.