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Its not only one game, its the whole pre-season. It s*cks. It cant be good to lose almost all your games. That cant be good! Also Im not very convinced by Schuster atm. Really, he hasnt got any vision of the game. Well atleast he doesnt show it. He just watches the game like he doesnt care and when it ends he tells the media that Robben is neccesary. And that Sneijder or vd Vaart should be on top of the list and that kind of sh*t!Socrates;2377925 said:Are you ******* kidding me, it's one ******* game.
Not such a bad result, the 2nd leg is at home and we should in better shape for that one.
justhammy;2377927 said:Well, history repeats itself I guess. Sacking a succescoach and hiring some weird guy that only trained low-profile teams. Well here it is Capello haters. Schuster isnt gonna last long. Really, this is the first coach that manages to reach some point that even f*cking Sergio Ramos plays bad. Put the kid back as a CB and dont waste his talent. He really doesnt look good on the right. Put Cicinho there, because judging from this game, Ramos' defense capababilities as a Right Wingback arent much better then Cicinho's. Torres, Pepe, and Cannavaro played a solid second half. Especially Pepe-Canna looked good. Diarra played a good overall game. Guti showed why we need another playmaker ASAP! Balboa (who had a very good pre-season) isnt ready for big games yet, so it was very optimistic from Schuster to start him. Robinho looked good on occasions, but wasnt special either. Baptista didnt play that well either when he came in. Saviola though, showed that he should start over Raul any motherf*Cking day of the year. Raul should be benched and only used when REAAAALLY necessary, because that guy really hasnt got the class he had before. And I think he never will. btw, wasnt that a penalty on Robinho?! Alves really stood in his way there, this time it wasnt a dive. To me it looked a penalty.
So I gotta draw some conclusions here;
Ramos as a CB. Cicinho as a RB. Raul on the bench. This is the worst pre-season i'v ever seen from Real Madrid. We lost like 4 times and won 2?! Correct me if I'm wrong. Schuster doesnt seem to posses even 20% of the tactical vision of Capello. Let alone, having an impact on the team at half-time. He was a bad-boy when he was a footballplayer, but as a coach he looks like a kid that is scared to get sacked before he opens his eyes. I can imagine him saying that he needs more and more signings. He has a better squad than Capello had last year, so he shouldnt complain.
I never said that he wont last a season. I just said that atm he doesnt show any signs of being a superb coach (something Capello did). Thats the only thing. I hope he stays here for some time. Im totally against sacking. But still, Ramos played a f*cked up game and really he didnt play much as a RB when Capello was here. Btw, you never liked Cicinho even at the time he just signed for us from Sao Paolo and was getting MoM perfomances after eachother so your opinion about him wont change. And yeah, I'm also angry about the fact that Schuster has such a big f*cking mouth. He kept saying, we prepared only for this game, dont draw conclusions from last games bla bla. We will be ready and sh*t. But really we were far from ready and were outplayed in the first half. Well, I already cannot wait for next weeks game and see wtf Schuster has for us now.Socrates;2377936 said:Look it was a sloopy game ( both teams did not play so amazing and they won off a penalty ). Not to mention we don't have a full 11 yet and I really dont' see why people are getitng so crazy after 1 ******* game. Come on relax, noone was complaining when Ramos was playing RB under Capello and now that he had a bad game it's all Schusters fault? It's funny you should mention Cicinho, he has had the worst preseason of all players. The preseason is mainly for our new players to get use to our way of play and get in shape, not to mention this year we are acutally playing some decent teams and not amatures from Austria to get ready for la liga. All things considered it's not the worst possible result, just have some patience. How can you say he won't last a season when you are judging him over just 1 game.
We lost to Sevilla who are a strong team at there home by 1 goal and that was a penalty.
Simple, bench one of the 3. Pepe-Canna looked good in the second half but they were sh*t in the first. Why are we the only team in the world that doesnt like to bench players. Well, f*ck it, lets just hope it gets better next week. Im making a bit of a story about it, because when we come to the Bernabeu and play like this then you know what happens.Moreira_Benfica;2377940 said:So Ramos plays bad at RB and its Schuster's fault? he played awsome there last year at times so its not Shuster's fault.. btw i dont understand what you want, you say Cann-Pepe played great togther 2nd half together, but you want to play Ramos at CB? face it Ramos has to play CB because theres no point in wasting 30 million for a bench warmer and Canna wont get benched, but seriosuly everyone needs to relax its 1 game calm down
justhammy;2377945 said:I never said that he wont last a season. I just said that atm he doesnt show any signs of being a superb coach (something Capello did). Thats the only thing. I hope he stays here for some time. Im totally against sacking. But still, Ramos played a f*cked up game and really he didnt play much as a RB when Capello was here. Btw, you never liked Cicinho even at the time he just signed for us from Sao Paolo and was getting MoM perfomances after eachother so your opinion about him wont change. And yeah, I'm also angry about the fact that Schuster has such a big f*cking mouth. He kept saying, we prepared only for this game, dont draw conclusions from last games bla bla. We will be ready and sh*t. But really we were far from ready and were outplayed in the first half. Well, I already cannot wait for next weeks game and see wtf Schuster has for us now.
Fair enough, I was just a bit carried away after the match and made some stupid comments. Its not Schusters fault ofcourse, it was just an angry comment, because I f*cking hate losing. But what I do mean seriously is that Schuster better stfu for a week, because he really knows how to put the pressure on the team.Socrates;2377949 said:Actually Ramos was awsome in almost all of his games at RB last season, he was able to defend and attack ( something Cicinho can't do, and no my opinion on him won't change unless he learns how to defend ). That's why there was so much arguement about him being a CB or RB ( I would perfer CB but than we don't have a good enough starter for RB ).
Schuster does infact have a big mouth and needs to shut up I will agree on that.
I just think people are overreacting to this one game, let's see how things go after all the sinings are done and the season is under way.