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Real Madrid Thread [2007-2008]

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Tosiek

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Pepe was a great buy.(Y)


Damn, what the **** was that? Real M. should learn how to spend money well. I can tell you 50 defenders better than almighty Pepe...
 

big al

Senior Squad
Anthony;2383013 said:
Pepe was a great buy.(Y)


Damn, what the **** was that? Real M. should learn how to spend money well. I can tell you 50 defenders better than almighty Pepe...

well i kinda agree uptil a certain extent, dont get me wrong he is a good defender i can also tell alot of defenders who are beneath him, the problem is that pepe imo isnt the kinda player to fix any of madrid's defense problems , the type that commands and carrys out the defense like maybe puyol or cannavaro in his good years, dont know if he was intended to be that guy in the first place, even so metzelder, and iam not talking only about the preseason , iam talking based on what he did in portugal too, if some ask me if madrid bought themselves a good defender to fill helguera and pavons gaps i wouls say yes, but if they ask me if madrid bought the kinda defender they needed, well.....
 

Jaouadinho

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big al;2383031 said:
well i kinda agree uptil a certain extent, dont get me wrong he is a good defender i can also tell alot of defenders who are beneath him, the problem is that pepe imo isnt the kinda player to fix any of madrid's defense problems , the type that commands and carrys out the defense like maybe puyol or cannavaro in his good years, dont know if he was intended to be that guy in the first place, even so metzelder, and iam not talking only about the preseason , iam talking based on what he did in portugal too, if some ask me if madrid bought themselves a good defender to fill helguera and pavons gaps i wouls say yes, but if they ask me if madrid bought the kinda defender they needed, well.....
well seeing how we got cannavaro who does command the back line i dont see a problem, cannavaro did well yesterday overall, pepe cannavaro defense is perfect they just need time to adapt, pepe is the muscle who gets in the challenges while cannavaro is the brains who tells eeryone who to mark when the use the offside trap etc etc.

from what i have seen so far personally i think he is gonna be a monster to us he really does love the shirt, he hates losing, and he would die for us on the pitch, everyone is still adapting people are getting too ahead of themselves, the season hasnt even started yet.
 

RuiCosta_10

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Just pass to say that Camacho is our new coach, just thought you would want to know since he's one of yours!

CAMACHOOOOOOOO! :D I'm veeeery happy, really happy :D!
 

OrgulloVikingo

Senior Squad
big al;2383031 said:
well i kinda agree uptil a certain extent, dont get me wrong he is a good defender i can also tell alot of defenders who are beneath him, the problem is that pepe imo isnt the kinda player to fix any of madrid's defense problems , the type that commands and carrys out the defense like maybe puyol or cannavaro in his good years, dont know if he was intended to be that guy in the first place, even so metzelder, and iam not talking only about the preseason , iam talking based on what he did in portugal too, if some ask me if madrid bought themselves a good defender to fill helguera and pavons gaps i wouls say yes, but if they ask me if madrid bought the kinda defender they needed, well.....

Quite decent post here Al. I'm not too familiar w/ Pepe, but imo, I think he is very good and will get better. His quality is evident. Worth the 30 mil? I don't think so. All in all we need time. Think about it...new coach, many new players, tactics, staff, etc. We will take our beatings but w/ the players we have we could only get better w/ time. This year is kind of a rebuilding phase.
 

Socrates

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big al;2383031 said:
well i kinda agree uptil a certain extent, dont get me wrong he is a good defender i can also tell alot of defenders who are beneath him, the problem is that pepe imo isnt the kinda player to fix any of madrid's defense problems , the type that commands and carrys out the defense like maybe puyol or cannavaro in his good years, dont know if he was intended to be that guy in the first place, even so metzelder, and iam not talking only about the preseason , iam talking based on what he did in portugal too, if some ask me if madrid bought themselves a good defender to fill helguera and pavons gaps i wouls say yes, but if they ask me if madrid bought the kinda defender they needed, well.....

I find it ridiculos to say all this about Pepe after 1 freaking game ( where our CB's looked worse because our FB's keep getting torched and needs the CB's to go out wide to cover for them ). I think Pepe is the type of CB we need but this was one game in which things did not go our way and already people are jumping at calling him a failure. From the preseason games and all I have seen of him he looks like he will be great for us, we just have to wait and see.

bybuti - Thank you, we know we are the best. Our liga thropy says that while your title-less seasons showes where you belong:fluffy:
 

KingPaulV

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like socrates said, the CB's looked exposed because of the way the flanks where getting exploited, notice in the second half when drenthe moved to the left that flank didnt get exposed as much for longer periods of the game, while on the right Ramos was just busy attacking, kicking, fighthing, all that...hehe...Our CB's did not have such a terrible game in terms of individual performance; except for Pepe's handball......I say like others give them time they will be alright

It is funny how the Cules are all over the place (big ups to you big al nice post) and when Sevilla Stomped them 3-0 in the Euro Supercup, it wasnt that funny then...the fact is IMO Sevilla has proven, they are the best team in Spain at the moment; like I said at the moment, because remember Madrid siempre es Madrid
 

justhammy

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Pepe will be a succes! Im 100% sure. Who did see his burst of speed in the second half?! Damn, that guy is F*CKING fast!!

After I'v read the post-match interview, I kinda feel dissapointed with Bernd. He said that put Drenthe and Sneijder in the centre, because they are physicaly strong and fast. But he really should have played Fernandito there. Shame! But still, not so dissapointed as last week. We should work hard though for next weeks Liga opener. I want a win! (and I want Marcelo to play!!!!)
 

Moreira_Benfica

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Anthony;2383013 said:
Pepe was a great buy.(Y)


Damn, what the **** was that? Real M. should learn how to spend money well. I can tell you 50 defenders better than almighty Pepe...

go, name me 50 better center backs then Pepe
 

Tosiek

Słowiańska Dusza
Moreira_Benfica;2383289 said:
go, name me 50 better center backs then Pepe

Roberto Ayala, Fabio Cannavaro, Kolo Toure, Ricardo Carvalho, Rio Ferdinand, Lúcio, Alessandro Nesta, Carles Puyol, John Terry, Lilian Thuram, Samuel Osei Kuffour, Metzelder, Juan, Bordon, Ismael, Mertesacker, R. Kovac, Maldini, Iván Córdoba, Daniel Agger, Márquez, Edmílson, Carlos Marchena, Tomasz Hajto...
 

Moreira_Benfica

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Anthony;2383341 said:
Roberto Ayala, Fabio Cannavaro, Kolo Toure, Ricardo Carvalho, Rio Ferdinand, Lúcio, Alessandro Nesta, Carles Puyol, John Terry, Lilian Thuram, Samuel Osei Kuffour, Metzelder, Juan, Bordon, Ismael, Mertesacker, R. Kovac, Maldini, Iván Córdoba, Daniel Agger, Márquez, Edmílson, Carlos Marchena, Tomasz Hajto...


Metzelder, Ismael, Hajto better then Pepe? haha oh and btw thats not 50

and Sevillista thats 1 guy that doesnt mean nothing everyone hating on pepe now after 1 game but the other games everyone loved off him
 

Tosiek

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Moreira_Benfica;2383351 said:
Metzelder, Ismael, Hajto better then Pepe? haha oh and btw thats not 50

Oh, really? Damn, I always suck at Maths.:(

You're start thinking like Real M. staff. That's because he costs way too much doesn't mean he can't be worse than a player who is worth less than 10milion.
 

OrgulloVikingo

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Anthony;2383365 said:
Oh, really? Damn, I always suck at Maths.:(

You're start thinking like Real M. staff. That's because he costs way too much doesn't mean he can't be worse than a player who is worth less than 10milion.

Funny how this Anthony clown comes here with that BS! What should the cash had gone to you? Who cares if we spent that much? We're a big club and big clubs always have to pay extra for who they want. But you wouldn't know that since you support...?? And we're still waiting for the rest of that 50! And by the way, it's about potential as well. Most of those guys on the list are either at their prime, or just coming off their prime or plainly not as talented as Pepe. Pepe is very good and all will see soon. Your team are nobodys... Now back to collecting your mums blow job money!
 

Tosiek

Słowiańska Dusza
First: you're funny as much as Real M. defence is good
Second: "Your team are nobodys" - It's easy to say when you're supporting the best team in the whole world ( I can't believe I said that).
Third: It's my view on this situation and you don't have to agree with it just respect it.
 

Socrates

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Sevillista;2383332 said:
Our youngster Fazio who we bought for less than a million euros (I think) outplayed your 30 million euro defender...

Not sure if he played that much better...you guys still let in 3 goals and it was 1 game in which our whole team sucked where as yours was defending and countering to perfection. Lets wait and see how Pepe turns out, I still think he will be great for us.

Anthony, horrible list BTW.
 

KingPaulV

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It is anthony; honestly.....Pepe was 30 millions because of potential, he is young he is on the come up, not one of those guys you named has the potential Pepe has....plus, he didnt ask to be sold for 30 milllion....do I think he is worth 30? I dont know, He might, might not be that is not my job as a fan, one thing I can tell you is that the man has the potential (there is that word again) to become the top defender in the world. I like his character, I like his poise, I believe he will be woth his weight in gold soon enough....

Like Alves, do you think he is worth the 40 million Euro's Chelsea wanted to pay?? I dont think so, but it is his potential that they are paying for, like Drenthe, like Sneijner, like Nani, and others
 
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