Real Madrid Thread [2007-2008]

[$teauA]

honestly, in spain, how exciting you play is a huge deal, even more so then winning

It is the same in Romania but then again all of that comes from the opinion of the press which then imprints itself on the fans, however no matter how s*itty you play the fans will always be happy if at the end of you the year if you are champions.

Firing Capello = dumb move

end of story

 

[justhammy]

If we got Drenthe we would play him in the midfield, not the defence. Atlhough I am not sure how good he is, I have read some Dutch people's report on him and they all say he has a great potentiol but he is no where near ready to move away from Holland. Justhammy care to post more on his? Is he really that good that we should be looking into him?

Oh and hell no to Adriano, Diarra is a great player so there is no reason to sell him when he does not want to move.

I posted something about Drenthe in the other thread, but i'll do it again
Drenthe played as LB for Feyenoord. He was one of their best players last year, but again, that wasnt that hard, because they s*cked. He isnt very good in defending and leaves some gaps behind. Like everyone has seen he is very fast and has great technique, but I would say that Marcelo is better then him. As a midfielder he is better then LB though. There he can do his dribbles and give crosses. But like i'v said before....he is NOWHERE as good as Robinho. So why get him?! He just played ONE season at Feyenoord, just one. He should really play 2 more should we consider to buy him. Again, he is overrated atm. He played a great U-21 European Cup, but he has to prove himself in the Netherlands before he goes to a big club like Real.

EDIT: AS are saying that we want to get Robben, Reyes and Huntelaar.
They want to bid 20 mil for Robben + a six year contract.
We also want Reyes for 7 mil. (dont think Arsenal will agree)
Huntelaar is second choise behind Soldado. So if Soldado and Real dont finish their talks soon they will try Huntelaar. Personally I would do everything to get Soldado. He is fantastic! And he proved himself.

 

[PSVFOREVER]

I posted something about Drenthe in the other thread, but i'll do it again
Drenthe played as LB for Feyenoord. He was one of their best players last year, but again, that wasnt that hard, because they s*cked. He isnt very good in defending and leaves some gaps behind. Like everyone has seen he is very fast and has great technique, but I would say that Marcelo is better then him. As a midfielder he is better then LB though. There he can do his dribbles and give crosses. But like i'v said before....he is NOWHERE as good as Robinho. So why get him?! He just played ONE season at Feyenoord, just one. He should really play 2 more should we consider to buy him. Again, he is overrated atm. He played a great U-21 European Cup, but he has to prove himself in the Netherlands before he goes to a big club like Real.

EDIT: AS are saying that we want to get Robben, Reyes and Huntelaar.
They want to bid 20 mil for Robben + a six year contract.
We also want Reyes for 7 mil. (dont think Arsenal will agree)
Huntelaar is second choise behind Soldado. So if Soldado and Real dont finish their talks soon they will try Huntelaar. Personally I would do everything to get Soldado. He is fantastic! And he proved himself.

Oh please. Get your facts straight. He wasn't even a regular starter for Feyenoord last year, let alone one of their best players. Besides, he made a huge number of (fatal) mistakes. Just to name one: He missed his interception vs. Groningen. They scored the decisive 1-1 and Groningen reached UEFA-cup, Feyenoord was empty handed.

He is terrible at left back as I said before and he is nowhere near Real Madrid quality. I envisage he will be a sub at Feyenoord next year as well (De Cler will play DL and van Bronckhorst will play ML)

 

[Jaouadinho]

just been readinh an interview with pedja mijatovic.

and theses are the players that we are currently looking at and have a chance for playing for us next season.

chivu, robben,drenthe,saviola,gabi millito, alves and toldo

others, soldado and he said reyes is likely to stay, and metzelder is already signed.

i think it would be intresting to see cicinho and alves in the right hand side they will be interchanging all the time and it will really confuse defenders.

saviola woiuld be a good option but we have soldado.

reyes or robben, i guess whoever is the cheapest.

chivu or millito, id go for millito because he know the spanish league very well, but i think he will be wasted as i dont see him as a starter, we should try for someone younger and cheaper or promote from castilla.

toldo, id prefer someone from castilla to be promoted like codina, adan or kiko casilla.

drenthe never seen the guy play so i cant really say anything.

 

[Socrates]

It looks like we are finally backing off of Kaka, thank God.

Anyway about the players we have been linked to now I would say

No thanks to Chivu - I would rater get Andrade who would be cheaper and is already experienced in La liga, I would also say no to Gabi as he would cost too much.

It seems like the club wants a vertan GK as Casillas backup, in which case I would want us to sign Toldo over Dudek.

According to the report Drenthe is a player we have been watching from the last season, seems like our managment is very interested in him so I would say lets get the first option on him so that in a couple of years if he gets really good we don't get scerwed over on the player and also we could settle for a better price.

Seems like we might be getting Robben after Malouda sings for Chelsea. Not really that happy about the move with Robben's injury's and his is a ballhog too. I would perfer was to get Reyes for the LW but I would not pay over 10 million euros for him.

 

[justhammy]

Oh please. Get your facts straight. He wasn't even a regular starter for Feyenoord last year, let alone one of their best players. Besides, he made a huge number of (fatal) mistakes. Just to name one: He missed his interception vs. Groningen. They scored the decisive 1-1 and Groningen reached UEFA-cup, Feyenoord was empty handed.

He is terrible at left back as I said before and he is nowhere near Real Madrid quality. I envisage he will be a sub at Feyenoord next year as well (De Cler will play DL and van Bronckhorst will play ML)

I have my facts straight. He was a regular starter and was one of their best players. But like i'v said he isnt good enough for us. http://www.vi.nl/vi/show/id=40053/dbid=52034/typeofpage=40054/sc=2df1ad He played 26 games out of 34.

 

[Help?]

The guy was never meant to be a long term coach, just a quickfix that was supposed to win us a title which he did but the season was very werid to say the least. Thanks for the title, **** you for the boring play, and also for the crap singing ( like Fabio and Emerson ).

That's the problem with Real Madrid fans, you guys want lots of titles very fast, with a very attacking-attractive football. Some of you say that you would rather lose 4-3 than win 1-0 and yet not satisfied until you win at least a CL and La Liga. People would be building a monument to Capello if he led another team (other than Barca) to La Liga. I really wonder how long Mourinho would last at Madrid. You started the season badly? Your team was a mess that was supposed to challenge for 3rd spot, 2nd at most. You know Mourinho didn't start all that breath-taking at Chelsea either, he was behind Manchester for most of the first 19 games and that's with the players he had. What's more important how you started or how you finished? There is a reason why people build up for future, otherwise **** teams like Fulham would never make it to EPL, if they looked back on their past.



Madrid finally finds someone that can take care of the players big ego, sort it all out and wins the title straight away, with great promise in the future and you sack him? Stupidity on the whole new level. Only in Real Madrid.

 

[mega montana]

looks like schuster will be presented wednesday or thursday

 

[Crusad3r]

Madrid finally finds someone that can take care of the players big ego, sort it all out and wins the title straight away, with great promise in the future and you sack him? Stupidity on the whole new level. Only in Real Madrid.

Ronaldo, Figo, Beckham, Zidane and Roberto Carlos are not in Madrid anymore.

Most of you doesnt know why Capello have been kicked cause you are not Real Madrid supporters.

Real Madrid is not about winning titles only, is also about doing good football, thats the big difference between Real Madrid and Milan or Juventus. The italians only care winning, Barça or Madrid need much more than winning.

 

[Help?]

Ok, so what is it more do you need? Is it winning lots of titles all the time and always playing very attractive football, like i said? Because if it is, then good luck with Schuster, if not then please explain.

 

[Crusad3r]

Ok, so what is it more do you need? Is it winning lots of titles all the time and always playing very attractive football, like i said? Because if it is, then good luck with Schuster, if not then please explain.

Capello was signed to win a title soon. Mission Acomplished then Capello kicked. Fair enough.

Capello style was pain in the ass. If Madrid get 75 points instead getting 76 everybody would be agree in kicking Capello.

 

[Socrates]

That's the problem with Real Madrid fans, you guys want lots of titles very fast, with a very attacking-attractive football. Some of you say that you would rather lose 4-3 than win 1-0 and yet not satisfied until you win at least a CL and La Liga. People would be building a monument to Capello if he led another team (other than Barca) to La Liga. I really wonder how long Mourinho would last at Madrid. You started the season badly? Your team was a mess that was supposed to challenge for 3rd spot, 2nd at most. You know Mourinho didn't start all that breath-taking at Chelsea either, he was behind Manchester for most of the first 19 games and that's with the players he had. What's more important how you started or how you finished? There is a reason why people build up for future, otherwise **** teams like Fulham would never make it to EPL, if they looked back on their past.



Madrid finally finds someone that can take care of the players big ego, sort it all out and wins the title straight away, with great promise in the future and you sack him? Stupidity on the whole new level. Only in Real Madrid.

Let me ask you this first, how many Madrid games did you watch? I mean it's easy to look at the table and say Capello is safe, keep him. The Madrid fans want to see a good match, that does not mean a 100 stepovers and one-twos at blizering pace. It means playing a controlled game, where we build up the attack. Not counter-attacking and trying to defend for most of the game. The 2 DM's never worked ( Emerson-Diarra ), they never created anything and more likely than not we also let in stupid goals. Many times Emerson was taken off for Guti or someone else at half-time. Logic should tell Capello to stop trying to make that **** work. We won the league on momentium but this only last a couple games, not a whole season. I doubt Capello was building for the future with players such as Cannavaro and Emerson who he got. He won a title and great job for that but he had many mistakes that he made and people tend to ignore that because of the title we won.

It's funny that most Madrid fans are already over Capello being sacked. Also how can you say he would win us titles? Anything could have happened, at times we still played like crap in the last 12 games but we won which was all that mattered. Espanyol first half, Mallorca first half, Recreativo second half, and etc.

 

[big al]

Let me ask you this first, how many Madrid games did you watch? I mean it's easy to look at the table and say Capello is safe, keep him. The Madrid fans want to see a good match, that does not mean a 100 stepovers and one-twos at blizering pace. It means playing a controlled game, where we build up the attack. Not counter-attacking and trying to defend for most of the game. The 2 DM's never worked ( Emerson-Diarra ), they never created anything and more likely than not we also let in stupid goals. Many times Emerson was taken off for Guti or someone else at half-time. Logic should tell Capello to stop trying to make that **** work. We won the league on momentium but this only last a couple games, not a whole season. I doubt Capello was building for the future with players such as Cannavaro and Emerson who he got. He won a title and great job for that but he had many mistakes that he made and people tend to ignore that because of the title we won.

It's funny that most Madrid fans are already over Capello being sacked. Also how can you say he would win us titles? Anything could have happened, at times we still played like crap in the last 12 games but we won which was all that mattered. Espanyol first half, Mallorca first half, Recreativo second half, and etc.

i can agree with some of this, but still you guys can deny madrid just dont learn that changing coaches so often does more damage than good, even if you didnt like capello's style, i mean see it this way, capello still accomplish what was the objective, winning the league, so why change a good thing, i mean those last games madrid made pretty much progress in playing good football tought the problem that madrid suffered so much in those last games was mainly your crappy defense it was not all on a capello really, so now with schuster or whoever is going to be the coach its like starting from zero again cause you guys put a gap on something that was starting to work ... and about the fans beeing already over capello that proves more of help's point imo , still i might think when next season is in process we will see if the fans really got over capello or will miss him.

 

[Socrates]

i can agree with some of this, but still you guys can deny madrid just dont learn that changing coaches so often does more damage than good, even if you didnt like capello's style, i mean see it this way, capello still accomplish what was the objective, winning the league, so why change a good thing, i mean those last games madrid made pretty much progress in playing good football tought the problem that madrid suffered so much in those last games was mainly your crappy defense it was not all on a capello really, so now with schuster or whoever is going to be the coach its like starting from zero again cause you guys put a gap on something that was starting to work ... and about the fans beeing already over capello that proves more of help's point imo , still i might think when next season is in process we will see if the fans really got over capello or will miss him.

No I don't think it's good to always change the manager but than again I would have never hired Capello because we all knew he was just going to be a short fix. Even if we did not fire Capello than next summer we would have because he was never meant to be a long term coach so we would still have to come to this point. Capello did certain things right but also did quite a big wrong, I don't have an issue with him being fired but am a bit worried about who will replace him.

Capello still played with Emerson-Diarra towards the end of the season whenever he could, only to put Guti or someone else in for Emerson at half-time because we were not playing good, this is Capello's fault. We did not play any better but our games were more exciting because the title was so close and we keep coming back to win it in the last mins of the game.

My last comment about most Madridista's getting over Capello being sacked was meant to be saying that the people who actually watched and followed Madrid last season are not talkig about Capello anymore but the ones who did not are still going on and on about how this is the biggest mistake ever.

 

[Drvar]

i congratulate Capello on the title, and on his efforts here. most of us expected a disastrous season, and while it wasnt far from that, we won the league.
the thing is, how much did Capello really do with the team? The defence was as crap as it has always been, what little we gained with 2 DM's we lost alot more in the attack. even in the brilliant run in the end, most of the time his starting eleven didnt perform, having to come back ALOT of times in the second half, when he'd made substitutions.
about the run of wins itself, it really was incredible, on some occasions lucky, but it was imho driven more by the players spirit, after seeing Barca slip up so many times, the team just gained confidence, and that is the most important thing in football. maybe Capello provided that confidence, i dont know what happened.
in my opinion, one of the biggest factors in this season was in Beckham and Ruud. Beckham started playing the way he was supposed to, after he got locked out of the team. Ruud was just in excellent form all season. this again, doesnt have alot to do with Capello.
and for a defensive coach, we sure sucked some balls in defence. Cannavaro for most of the season, Salgado all the time, Helguera in some games, Emerson in alot of games, so many mistakes. And Cannavaro and Emerson were Capello's boys, yet they were one of the worst.

ok this post is a ******* mess, my point is, this season was just unbeliveable, and i dont think Capello would be able to repeat it next season, because this year we were carried by spirit, because the team was really hungry for a title, to repeat this, you need to be playing great, even when not under pressure. i dont think he'd be able to bring that.
and as Crusader said, if Real had not beaten Mallorca, or if Barca hadnt tied Espanyol in the last seconds, what kind of season would this be? pretty bad in retrospective. Knocked out of the CL by Bayern, which was crap as hell, knocked out of Copa del Rey by Betis, who barely avoided relegation this season, and were crap as hell too.
the decision seems stupid, but you have to look at it objectivly.

 

[yt23w]

Just a funny fact i'd thought would be appropriate:

Schuster would be Real's eighth coach since 2003 after two-time Champions League winner Vicente del Bosque, Portugal's Carlos Queiroz, stop-gaps Antonio Camacho and Mariano Garcia Remon, Brazilian Wanderley Luxemburgo, another caretaker in Juan Ramon Lopez Caro and Capello.

i dont think Capello was going to be a long term coach anyway. Whether he won a title or not he was gonna get sacked. it doesnt surprise me at all.

i just wonder how Schuster will play the team (eg what formation and roles n stuff) and who he would like to sign. i guess time will tell.

 

[AdyKew]

caps is gone, if u thought he shouldnt have been sacked then get over it, its happened. no amount of bitching will bring him back.
i honestly think tevez is coming to real madrid, and maybe robben.
i would like to see them here aslong as robben stays fit, tevez would play on if he was injured so his fitness isnt a problem but robben is a bit of a girl.
seems like wenger will stay at arsenal for another year so as far as im concerned he is not on the market. so it is schuster we r gettin.
no matter wat anyone says schuster is a good coach, he got getafe to the copa del rey final, WE CANT EVEN GET TO THE COPA DEL REY FINAL! and to lose to sevilla in the final isnt a bad thing, they showed their class this year. they have a great youth system and are reaping the benefits from selling big e.g reyes, ramos, baptista. jesus navas and alves will be next to go for massive amounts of money.
we need stability in the team , the coach and the board. this time its different we have stability in the team. they won the title not capello. yeh he brought guti on one game and he worked wonders and then reyes. but other games when brought guti on he did absolutley **** all. its down to the players if they perform on the day.
thats enuff from me, any one else want tevez? i love him and want him here but where he wud play i dont no

 

[KingPaulV]

ok fellas some news here.....

First Kaka:
The word is that Kaka requested aafter a personal meeting with Berlusconi that he be allowed to leave Milan to Madrid. Apparently Berlusocni doesnt like to talk about the issue, but now that Kaka has made it clear that he does want to leave at least to him it is possible that a backdoor deal might be in the works, something to include Emerson and Cassano possibly goiing to Milan as compensation....More to follow


Tevez:
He denied the comments that he prefers Inter over Madrid, he said that He would like to go to Madrid just the same and that he would not mind going to either or. So that there is a strong possibility he could come to Madrid.. And said that there is no offer from Madrid yet.

Robben:
Madrid is about to close a deal with Robben. Right now the hold up is Chelsea. As long as Chelsea dont move to block the deal it could happen within the week or so.

Chivu:

Madrid has raised the bid for Chivu to 16 Million, now they are the highest bidder in front of Barca and Inter. very likely that they will ge Him...However Roma is saying they are giving priority to Barca over all contenders. Alex and Gabriel Milito are the other options, they would have to be bid for and won over in a bid battle as well.

Reyes:
Apparently Mijatovic is ready to make a move on Reyes to keep him at the club, at the same time its been reported that Julio Baptista will get a chance to make the roster this season as he is going to the pre-season camp witht the team...

 

[djgperu1]

i have always liked how baptista plays.. i believe he deserves a 2nd chance..

i read the news bout kaka at as.com;yet i still hope itz true

mijatovic said that he already had 3 signings that were almost done deals.... so i hope they include reyes and robben..

 

[Jaouadinho]

i dont see the point of gettign reyes and robben, one of them would do and is reyes, we should try for a right footed winger, seeing how ribery is out of the question i would go for the next best thing and that is queresma i guess.