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[MaSsiVe]

Draxler is hands down the biggest steal so far. 11th round, FFS

 

[MaSsiVe]

The s reporting for duty

 

[poet11]

What do you guys think?

 

[ChungaHungry]

I dunno if that sort of tactic csn be relied upon at this level. All the teams are fairly equal so no team can dominate the ball to the extent that an Ajax 95 could have, not to mention that tactics have evolved since then anyway. I feel like Keita would get gassed very quickly, as would Bakayoko, because of the extra shifts they have to do just to get to their positions in transitions, and is bound to leave spaces between levels to be exploited. That sort of tsctic can work for a top team generally because most teams are much wrse and there are less transitions to adjust to, but at a level where most teams will be around the same level, I think these sort of tactics are arrogant and pretentious. Barca abandoned a similar formation and concept because it wasn't reliable. The players themselves I like, I would just prefer them in a different set-up.

Keita gassed? Are you joking? He's got an engine like no one else. Bakoyoko's stamina is not too far off that.

And there's no "extra shifts". Rijkaard was 33 years old when playing as the anchor for Ajax. They're moving about 20 yards each way in transition, which is why even old legs could so well in that position. I agree that game has continued to operate at a faster pace, and this system will require athleticism and pressing, but that's why these two talented workhorses were picked for their roles.

Again, the pace of the game has changed dramatically, and tactics may have moved on relative to the 1950s and 60s, but not necessarily since the "modern era" started in the 70s. There's a reason why the back 3 has come back into fashion outside of Italian/Bielsa teams. Yes, there are other ways to organize my players, but I think you're way off the mark when calling this system outdated.

 

[Back Door Skip]

The three man at the back seems to be en vogue but I think good wingers can totally expose them.

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

Yes, agreed. Hate it.

Instead of clicking on the thread click the little double arrow at after it and it takes you straight to the last page.

can't believe I forgot all about Draxler.

 

[ChungaHungry]

I would think that even a Kante, Ramires or Essien would struggle to take up that role, no matter how much stamina they have. It's 20 yards added to whatever distsnce they naturally have to cover just to keep shape, it's a lot. If this was a match against a bottom feeder it's not an issue, but not in these matches. A 33 year old Rijkaard might have done well in the 90s but he wouldn't now, the levels of fitness have gone way up since then. The back 3 has coke back because tactics ebb and flow as a response to one anither but no team has used a similar tactic to the one you're suggesting consistently o successfully, and if Barca gave it up with their superiority I see no reason why your team would manage it in a competition with similarly rated sides.

I appreciate your points (not sure about "coke back", actually), but I think you're either not watching Barca, or are misinformed about how they've abandoned the 3-3-1-3:

There's also this excellent article which I'd recommend for you:

Barcelona’s 3-3-1-3: a brutal weapon capable of overcoming PSG – and storming La Liga
http://www.squawka.com/news/barcelon...XBJfUMjSXV1.97

I'll happily admit that it's a brave manager that plays such a formation, but as the article suggests, having the exact profile of player for each role for the 3-3-1-3 to work individually and collectively is crucial. With all due respect, I think I have that.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

Those Barca players are all elite of the elite level passers. They don't have to defend beyond pressing because they always have the ball. You don't have anywhere near the level of talent in that respect. Rakitic is a better passer than anyone you have, to say nothing of Messi, Busquets, and Iniesta. To play that system you need to utterly dominate possession, and I'm not sure you will. You have a lot of bruisers and counter attack guys, not short passing, deliberate build up play types.

 

[Xaviesta]

 

[Pogba4Now]

I really, really, really despise that I need to click on the thread, get taken to first page then manually go to the last page. That shit is stupid.

checxk this http://soccergaming.com/forum/off-t...-forum-layout-sucks-ass?p=6455703#post6455703

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

Dytza, Navas was already picked, choose again. Also technically you should be skipped and lose an hour as you went over 6 hours, but since it was only 7 minutes over and you've been good this draft we'll be kind.

Remember Sepak is down to 4 hours now so make sure to skip him promptly if he doesn't show up.

 

[Arnau]

How many players are we picking?

 

[MaSsiVe]

18?

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

That useless bum Sepak is skipped yet again and drops to 3 hours. ChungaHungry can now pick

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

I can't believe Asensio was still available - I even thought I remembered him going, was gonna pick him myself a round or two ago but was sure he was gone.

Icardi is also another absolute steal at this stage.

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

How many players are we picking?

18, minimum two GKs, and a realistic bench (in terms of positions) is recommended.

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

Did I mention sepak is SKIPPED again and that all my predictions of him being a useless bum are proving accurate?

 

[Dytza]

Those Barca players are all elite of the elite level passers. They don't have to defend beyond pressing because they always have the ball. You don't have anywhere near the level of talent in that respect. Rakitic is a better passer than anyone you have, to say nothing of Messi, Busquets, and Iniesta. To play that system you need to utterly dominate possession, and I'm not sure you will. You have a lot of bruisers and counter attack guys, not short passing, deliberate build up play types.

Shifty is right here, not to mention that the formation in that photo is nowhere near what the team actually looked liked on the pitch this season.

 

[ShiftyPowers]

I firmly believe Sule is one of the best picks of the draft this late. He is an elite level player with outstanding buildup play and is also big and fast. And he comes from Hoffenheim where he played a positional game under Naglesmann.

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

I suspect he'll have a great season if he gets in the team. Are you going to risk starting him?