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SG Succession Game - Discussion

Alex

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The issue with other Eastern European leagues is that the DLR won't impact them, so they'll end up weak, as always, and redundant once we become good.

Switzerland I don't see the point of at all, not really Eastern European, and it's not big. It'll end up just wasting away.

Championship is there on an earlier suggestion.

Also adding the Championship doesn't slow the game down as much as adding a whole new nation.
 

Juventino

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You could use editor files. Each player will have to download the file seperately, which could be a bit annoying.

For example, Georgia:
http://thedugout.net/community/showthread.php?t=78839

Dinamo Tblisi is a pretty legendary club. You could perhaps even give them a sugar daddy beforehand to create another rival. It'd be pretty cool to compete with these old former Soviet greats in Europe.
 

Mandieta6

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Switzerland was just an example of a league that would be within out range. And leaving them behind would happen way in the future. We'd probably have a good 10 seasons with them as direct rivals.

Georgia, Armenia, etc would be all pretty sweet.

I think the Championship suggestion was yours Alex. I personally see no reason for it, we won't have anything to do with England, and certainly not with their fringe clubs. In our long Chelmsford career, I don't recall any other promoted club getting into Europe, much less becoming a European force. Doesn't add anything.
 

Juventino

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Yeah, the Championship players likely won't be interesting for us at any point either. Never had an Englishman under contract at Dukla Prague for example. Doesn't really suit Vladivostok either. I'm imagining a team full of James Bond bad guys; work rate 20, stamina 20, natural fitness 20, concentration 20, etc. That and a couple of miserable Brazilians... better yet, imagine signing Balotelli for Vladivostok. (H)
 

Alex

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No it wasn't. I had loads of tiers originally of a few leagues (because that's how I play) but someone said top tiers only, plus championship.

When do you think we'll be up again Georgia, Armenia etc? They won't be in Europe, and once we are, they'll be forgotten.

Also we don't all need the edt file. Once the save is created, the EDT (and the rest of the database) is ignored. The game has everything it needs in the save.
 

Alex

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BTW. I'll drop Championship. But I think we're best to add countries like Romania and Czech. They have some historically big clubs which I can give lots of money (but maybe not a foreground sugar daddy so things don't get too unbalanced).
 

Mandieta6

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Georgia and Armenia because they'll produce more regens, and as our neighbours, it'd be more interesting. I'd rather have Croatia/Poland/Serbia/Czech Republic/Romania, but they wouldn't make for bad additions.
 

Juventino

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Alex;3153670 said:
Also we don't all need the edt file. Once the save is created, the EDT (and the rest of the database) is ignored. The game has everything it needs in the save.
Wasn't the case with the Cuba Succession Game I started. Mrromaniac had to download the editor files in order to load the game on his computer.
 

Mandieta6

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OK, I checked the league reps in the game, and I think we should add all the leagues that are above or just behind us in terms of rep (top league only), these are:

England
Spain
Germany
Italy
France
Holland
Portugal
Ukraine
Turkey

Now, I think similar reputation leagues outside of Europe don't matter to us, but, just in case, those would be:

Brazil
Argentina
Mexico

In terms of league competition, the next ones to add would be:

Belgium
Greece
Romania
Switzerland
Israel
Denmark
Czech Republic
Austria

And in terms of cultural links, I'd add:

Serbia
Belarus

Obviously, I'm not suggesting loading all of them, but I think the entire first group, plus Serbia and Belarus, plus a couple from the 2nd group and the non-Europeans we wanted like Japan, should make for a diverse and entertaining game.
 

Alex

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What about:
England
Spain
Germany
Italy
France
Holland
Portugal
Ukraine
Turkey
Brazil
Korea
Japan
Belarus
Romania
Czech

Why does everyone associate Serbia so much more with Russia than Romania and Czech?? Romania is further East, was just as communist and I think had just as big clubs. Czech has probably bigger clubs (mainly because Serbia is only a party of Yugoslavia, whilst Czech is over half Czechoslovakia) and again was just as communist...
 

Alex

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Juventino;3153678 said:
Wasn't the case with the Cuba Succession Game I started. Mrromaniac had to download the editor files in order to load the game on his computer.

Download my save game and check it. It has Japan EDT.

My understanding is the database is only used when creating the game. And the EDT is basically just a mask over the top of the DB.
 

Alex

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Oh wait, I'm thinking of xml database extensions-like the j league. Can someone download the game, and see if it works.
 

ShiftyPowers

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Yeah, but I can see if that save you already posted works, right?

EDIT: Boom

 

Alex

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Sorry guys. Was out until stupid o'clock last night. Starting the game now. Is that league list I put up ok??
 

yoyo913

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I would lean towards having as little number of leagues as possible (with large database) but it seems like the rest are okay with it. Having a lot of different leagues can be cool but most of the time it doesn't affect you to warrant the drain on processing speed.

I'll probably do a season of this later on!
 

Alex

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I think the advantage of having more leagues means much more accurate transfer activity. Inactive sides don't really transfer between themselves.
 

Alex

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BTW. Horatiu, you can turn down the detail level on all of the leagues, so that it runs them purely as a quick sim. That saves loads of processing power.
 


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