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The England National team thread

Discussion in 'Team Threads Forum' started by becksfranksteve, May 25, 2005.

  1. Sir Didier Drogba

    Sir Didier Drogba Head Official Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Absolutely. However if the plan is for Allardyce to iron out the basics and get us off the bottom rung over the next two years before moving for someone else to take us forward, I'd support it. He should basically be treated like West Ham treated him, ie even if he improves the team a little bit he should be upgraded in two years unless what he is doing is really special.
     
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    Man utd were mediocre under Sir Alex?
     
  3. Pogba4Now

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    Someone who has O'Shea, Fletcher, Giggs, Anderson as midfielder. You can see how LvG struggled with the same team + 200 millions.
     
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    When Ronaldo left, definitely. The last UCL final in 2011 the midfield was Park, Giggs, Carrick and Valencia. This is very mediocre compared to Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta at their prime for example. He still reached the final and won the EPL.
     
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    Nimreitz Make America Great Again

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    To be fair, he wasn't exactly going up against great teams that season. Schalke in the Semis?
     
  6. Pogba4Now

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    I agree it was lucky but he did it with a Europa quality team.
     
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    Antonio and drinkbeer get called up but no Barkley.
     
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    Nimreitz Make America Great Again

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    Antonio deserves a call up, he's a solid player.
     
  9. Pogba4Now

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    I agree with Antonio actually. He deserves a callup.

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  10. Sir Didier Drogba

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    Yes totally. I don't mind leaving out Barkley either - He looks good again under Koeman but we can always call him up later. The purpose of qualifiers (in a group we will win easily) should not be to just win every game with the same old players and then claim everything is great and fine with the NT (Roy) but to try different options and actually try to build a cohesive team which may not be the biggest names.

    Rooney retains captaincy and will not retire until after World Cup, which I personally am happy about.
     
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    Happy at him retiring or happy that he will play for England for 2 more years?
     
  12. Sir Didier Drogba

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    Happy he will stay til after world cup and remain captain
     
  13. Pogba4Now

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    After that it will probably be captain Henderson. How pathetic.

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    I am hoping for captain Luke Shaw.
     
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    Nimreitz Make America Great Again

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    Just make it fucking Stones or Kane, jesus christ.
     
  16. Sir Didier Drogba

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    I think Kane is one of those players who will only be good when he has absolutely no responsibilities beyond that of scoring goals.
     
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    Yes agree on that for Kane - he should not be captain - but this is Ingerland and the manager is someone out of his depth so the captain will be someone like Henderson or Jagielka.

    Can Shaw be a leader? I haven't seen much of a leader in him and he's still a kid.

    I'd go with Smalling.
     
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    Smalling doesnt appear to be first choice at Man Utd so he can't be captain if he is not leading the line at his own club.

    I can't be sure about this because the FA makes terrible decisions wrt managers but I would assume that Allardyce contract expires immediately after world cup and will only be extended if we have a good tournament, so he will go at same time as Rooney unless he is doing a good job and next manager can pick new captain.
     
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    Dier seems like he has a good attitude for a captain, and he's not going anywhere.
     
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    But Man U > England.

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