ARIAGA II;3806427 said:
Alexis has won more than Hazard, so how do you come to this conclusion?
Alexis has won 1 Spanish cup and 1 Spanish league title. He then has 1 English, 2 Spanish, 1 European and 1 World Community Shields. Eden has 1 French cup and 1 French league as well as 1 English cup and 1 European cup. He will now also have an English league (to be fair, Alexis is likely to add an English cup, too). I guess in pure silverware numbers Alexis wins but I think Eden is more accomplished. Besides, Eden is a winner this year, which is the period the award is meant to reflect.
ShiftyPowers;3806429 said:
Alexis is more dynamic with the ball IMO, Hazard is not as exciting with his quick turn of pace. I'm not saying he doesn't have that, but your efficiency argument is backwards as far as I'm concerned. Hazard gets by guys better, but it's not in a flashy way as much as Alexis. At least that's just my opinion. It was on display yesterday, some of Alexis' runs through a crowd are just incredible.
Flashy as in dribbling tricks? If so, sure, Hazard doesn't use tricks, it's all about change of pace and leaving the the defender behind. It's probably a matter of style but I find Hazard more entertaining because he rarely even tries tod deceive the defender. They just can't stop him, even if they know what he's going to do. In that regard he reminds me of Robben. If we agree that that Hazard gets by players better, I think that's the end of it. That's what makes him exciting, and he's better at it.
Xaviesta;3806435 said:
That's why i never argue with you. Anything I say, still my fault. Almost every Chelea fan I have seen on the internet said the same shit about Hazard. I even have 2 friends (Chelsea fans) and they both think Hazard is up there with Messi and Ronaldo.
You never argue with me because you physically can't do it. You're a coward and you can't stick to an argument.
Your argument is stupid. I can find dozens of people online who will say that Barack Obama is an alien, the antichrist, a terrorist, etc. I wouldn't use any of that in any argument about him because not all sources are created equal. I could go to a racist hub somewhere on the web, find a bunch of people saying blacks shouldn't have the right to vote, and then come here and say 'Contrary to what most people are saying, I think black people should vote'.
No one one SG has ever used Facebook fans or even Big Soccer fans as the basis for an argument about anything because we know that those fans comprise a group of football illiterates. I don't use my grandmother's opinion on Zlatan to say that he's underrated (she doesn't like his tattoos), after all. If you want to argue that Hazard is overrated, base your argument on something valid. Articles by pundits, quotes from managers or players, posts by people who give you a cogent argument rather than tribalistic one-liners (as in, 'I think Hazard is on Messi's level because... (followed by commentary on his play, comparison of achievements, use of statistics, etc.).
The fact that your friends are stupid does not surprise me at all. I am sure they could go on to their Romanian SGs and talk about their stupid friend Xaviesta who is a Barca fanboy.
