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Discussion in 'FIFA 15 Mods, Patches and Total Conversions' started by mrliioadin, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. regularcat

    regularcat Manager Moderator

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    There is only 1 missing Central American league missing.

    We already have Panama, Honduras, Costa Rica, Guatemala and El Salvador.

    Nicaragua is needed.
     
  2. kevinluci

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    Ok, thank you very much. I think you have to reorganize your stats for some players. For exemple, Paulinho has 55 in you cmp., bun EA give him 80. The difference is too much.. And many other examples. The OVRs much be bigger.
     
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    No, you don't understand the tactic behind what he is doing.

    If you can't grasp his concept then it's purpose is over your head.
     
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    I didn't talk with you, boss. I think you'd better stay away and don't talk to me like this.
     
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    If you can't understand what he is doing then it is not for you.

    He has already stated why he is doing what he is doing and he is not going to change it.

    One should test before giving an opinion.
     
  6. kevinluci

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    I read what he wrote a few post ago, but when a few guys tell you that you can change smthg to look better, you can listen their opinion. Anyway, mrliioadin is making a very good thing and I'm free to change OVRs in CM. It was just a small sugestion and I gave him an example to show him that he could make some changes.
     
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    What you are not understanding is he has the overalls that way for a reason.

    If you change them then it destroys the purpose behind what he has done.
     
  8. kevinluci

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    But some of them aren't realistically. Some players has potential smaller than the ovr.. And a lot of good players are 50-60.. I hope I'll make everything good enough and I'll not destroy this beautifull work.

    PS: Congrats for your child! God bless you!
     
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    On the discussion of realism, EA's values aren't realistic in terms of how
    each attribute functions in game in correlation with values given.

    By doing what he is doing it is somewhat scaling it down to a realistic level leaving the AI human like with an overall lower than EA assigned which is really just a number.

    Thanks for your blessing.
     
  10. mrliioadin

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    You're only basis for saying that they aren't realistic is your opinion. My quantitative system removes the bias inherent in your opinion and forces values to be created by a set of mathematical rules rather than opinion. Come up with a better system and I'll consider it. But, spout bias and I'll ignore it.

    There should not be any players with a potential less than the overall because the calculation for the potential is a simple random value some values higher than the overall. If it is in one of the African leagues, I didn't make those. The Iranian league was also made with a previous version. The current version of RM15 ensures that that won't happen.

    Patches are open for anyone to do anything with. If you don't like it, download it. Change it. Reupload it. And be done with it.
     
  11. mrliioadin

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    From the linkbux guy? Uhg. Okay. I don't have permission to use those. But, I'll ask him. I'll work on Nicaragua.
     
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    Have you applied this system to an entire database or just what you created in CMP format ?
     
  13. mrliioadin

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    I add to the database directly but usually export to cmp from laptop and import cmp to desktop. I find some of Rinaldo's tools are very good about catching duplicates and flexibly selecting certain options for different situations.
     
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    But if you wanna do anything else with any other tables, it's super easy to do with sql. I can probably help build whatever queries you want. It's all Just data. And data is very easy to manipulate.
     
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    What I was asking have you done the players already in game ?
     
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    Mrliioadin, don't be upset. I told you what I saw. Players from EA Database downgraded a lot. I imported just Chinese League and I saw the problem with potential.
     
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    With the quantitative system? No. I figured people would revolt.
     
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    Not upset. But that approach to considering ratings is a big problem here. It's why I worked on a quantitative system. Which player has the potential problem?
     
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    I guess one other point about the quantitative system is that I don't think it would apply to the world's best players in the same way it does everyone else. It's a system designed to explain typical players in typical leagues in typical countries. It assumes that the best player on the best team in a given league can be described as being 3 standard deviations from the mean. I think when you're talking about the world's best, it's probably much more than 3 standard deviations. When talking about the world's best footballers or athletes, you're talking about statistical anomalies by definition. And I don't have a good way to handle that. So, for now I just take EAs word for it.
     
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    The issue with EA's rating system is players are too grouped in higher rated attribute values.

    Messi and Ronaldo are one thing but Van Persie as high as he is plays nowhere near the level Messi and Ronaldo do and therefore his rating is
    unjust.

    My opinion Messi, Ronaldo and Robben and the next highest low 80's at best and downhill from there.

    The ratings are GOD like and no player is that good or even close to the above 3 mentioned.
     
      

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