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The Real Madrid Thread [2005 - 2006]
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mega montana
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its still so early to start complaining, plus i have more faith with sacchi and luxemborgo on board, hopefully sr. perez will listen to them 
if solari does leave, good luck to him, i've always enjoyed watching him play
if solari does leave, good luck to him, i've always enjoyed watching him play
Drvar said:patience, my friends. its not Florentino's job to do the signings anymore, we have Sacchi now
the way i see it:
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- Florentino wants world-class/shirt-sellers (Robinho, Gerrard, Ballack)
- Luxemburgo wants brazilian players (Luisao, Robinho, Alex... even Maldonado, who isn't brazilian, but he plays in the brazilian league)
- Sacchi wants Serie A players (De Rossi, Cassano, Gilardino, Pizarro, Mancini, Emerson)
- Butragueño wants spanish players (Del Horno, Sergio Ramos, Joaquin)Luxemburgo asks for a player, Sacchi makes the deal, Butragueño is the assistant/consultant and Perez takes the final decision.
Parker said:And I remember when we try to sign Alaya in LAST day of transfer window.
So I rather like to see new player as fast as it's possible, than hear again: we try to buy someone but we miss.
Maybe we panic to much
exactly. The 'world' tour starts on July 14th (Chicago). We MUST have at least 2 new players (3, with Robinho, if we finally sign him) by then. If we just have one signing, i'll panic 
Florentino, you have one month : sign or die
Chacarita Juniors
The artist formerly known as ronnifan9
Realistically...*sorry if I burst your bubble* 
Signed: P.Garcia
Our "for sure" signings: Robinho, S.Ramos
Our "long shot" signings: Joaquin or CR7, CM??? (Gerrard,Ballack,Maldonado,???)
A grand total of 5 signings this summer.
Signed: P.Garcia
Our "for sure" signings: Robinho, S.Ramos
Our "long shot" signings: Joaquin or CR7, CM??? (Gerrard,Ballack,Maldonado,???)
A grand total of 5 signings this summer.
Forget Joaquin and Cristiano Ronaldo.
Honestly.
You're setting yourselves up for some major disappointment if you're expecting us to sign either of them.
Oh, and Sergio Ramos, is far, far, far from a "for sure" signing. Hell, Sevilla has said that Real Madrid is _NOT_ one of the three clubs to actually put forth a real offer for him. Madrid is one of the many, many clubs "interested" in him, but only three teams have actually tabled bids over to Sevilla.
Honestly.
You're setting yourselves up for some major disappointment if you're expecting us to sign either of them.
Oh, and Sergio Ramos, is far, far, far from a "for sure" signing. Hell, Sevilla has said that Real Madrid is _NOT_ one of the three clubs to actually put forth a real offer for him. Madrid is one of the many, many clubs "interested" in him, but only three teams have actually tabled bids over to Sevilla.
Chacarita Juniors
The artist formerly known as ronnifan9
Thats insane dude. Baptista replacing Guti?! Samuel leaving...Crusad3r said:
I agree with RUSI on CR7, but we all know Florentino...I guess sooner or later he'll be wearing a Madrid jersey.
...unless Guti, and Solari leave (both on left side) CR7 could see average playing time. and that means a sh*tload of money!!! 
mega montana
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sergio ramos is far from a sure signing
also, sacchi is not interested in just serie a players, he is the one that picked out gravesen and has also scouted sergio ramos
edit: ronnifan9, why do u have a barca player above your name, i know he's mexican but still... :-puke:
also, sacchi is not interested in just serie a players, he is the one that picked out gravesen and has also scouted sergio ramos
edit: ronnifan9, why do u have a barca player above your name, i know he's mexican but still... :-puke:
I personally feel that BOTH of Guti and Solari need to stay.
I have no worries that both of them will, anyhow. Guti is our 2nd captain, Madridista to the core and will stay... and Santi just got a contract extension and says he loves being with Madrid irregardless of his playing role.
I suspect they'll both be key figures in Luxemburgo's rotation of midfielders next season in hopes of keeping the likes of Zidane and Raul fresh. The insertion of Robinho into this rotational system would add excitement, youth and much-needed creative dribbling while actually incorporating _SPEED_! I definitely think Madrid needs speed badly and Robinho will offer this.
Pablo Garcia will add much needed reinforcement in the defensive midfield position, thus allowing Guti to probably play a more attacking role when he comes on. Is Woody can actually be healthy to start the season, I'd suspect we'd see Helguera slot into the midfield as well. This is likely where I hope Luxemburgo incorporates a two DM/CM system.
We could have phenomenal choices to go with as a 2 DM/CM system:
Helguera - Gravesen
P.Garcia - Helguera
Gravesen - Beckham
Gravesen - P.Garcia
(they'd kill opponents)
Beckham - Helguera
I'd like to see us incorporate two DMs/CMs and then have two 'attacking' midfielders. In such a role, the likely rotation could be:
Robinho - Zidane
Solari - Guti
Zidane - Solari
Guti - Robinho
Robinho - Solari
Zidane - Guti
I'd be confident with any of these pairings there.
Then, at striker, you go with:
Raul to start the game for 45-60 mins, then Owen
Ronaldo
I think this would work well as Owen can benefit from attacking tired defenses and Raul remains our captain, starts the games, and gets a good amount of time to produce. Owen has failed miserably in the games he has started anyhow, so this would work much better. Of course, Ronnie goes for the full 90 mins. as he's just too good.
In my ideal starting XI, I'd go with:
------------------Casillas------------------
---------Woodgate------Samuel------------
--Salgado-----------------------R.Carlos---
---------------------Gravesen-------------- (or P.Garcia)
-------Beckham---------------------------- (or Helguera)
-----------------------------Zidane-------- (or Solari/Guti)
------------Robinho------------------------ (or Guti/Solari)
-------------------------Raul--------------- (or Owen)
------------------Ronaldo------------------
I've chose to put each of the midfielders/strikers on individual lines to get the point across of their preferred roles. Beckham would be able to push out right for his crosses whilst attacking, but can also contribute defensively as we all know he will do no matter what we may want/think. Zidane has somewhat of a free role on the central/left side, while Robinho is a central attacking midfielder. Raul slots up front, but also comes back alot to help that left side where Zidane/R.Carlos is. This is the reason Gravesen is there to ensure a solid DM presence. Ronaldo of course is the most pushed up as he's our most lethal threat.
What do you guys think?
I have no worries that both of them will, anyhow. Guti is our 2nd captain, Madridista to the core and will stay... and Santi just got a contract extension and says he loves being with Madrid irregardless of his playing role.
I suspect they'll both be key figures in Luxemburgo's rotation of midfielders next season in hopes of keeping the likes of Zidane and Raul fresh. The insertion of Robinho into this rotational system would add excitement, youth and much-needed creative dribbling while actually incorporating _SPEED_! I definitely think Madrid needs speed badly and Robinho will offer this.
Pablo Garcia will add much needed reinforcement in the defensive midfield position, thus allowing Guti to probably play a more attacking role when he comes on. Is Woody can actually be healthy to start the season, I'd suspect we'd see Helguera slot into the midfield as well. This is likely where I hope Luxemburgo incorporates a two DM/CM system.
We could have phenomenal choices to go with as a 2 DM/CM system:
Helguera - Gravesen
P.Garcia - Helguera
Gravesen - Beckham
Gravesen - P.Garcia
(they'd kill opponents)Beckham - Helguera
I'd like to see us incorporate two DMs/CMs and then have two 'attacking' midfielders. In such a role, the likely rotation could be:
Robinho - Zidane
Solari - Guti
Zidane - Solari
Guti - Robinho
Robinho - Solari
Zidane - Guti
I'd be confident with any of these pairings there.
Then, at striker, you go with:
Raul to start the game for 45-60 mins, then Owen
Ronaldo
I think this would work well as Owen can benefit from attacking tired defenses and Raul remains our captain, starts the games, and gets a good amount of time to produce. Owen has failed miserably in the games he has started anyhow, so this would work much better. Of course, Ronnie goes for the full 90 mins. as he's just too good.
In my ideal starting XI, I'd go with:
------------------Casillas------------------
---------Woodgate------Samuel------------
--Salgado-----------------------R.Carlos---
---------------------Gravesen-------------- (or P.Garcia)
-------Beckham---------------------------- (or Helguera)
-----------------------------Zidane-------- (or Solari/Guti)
------------Robinho------------------------ (or Guti/Solari)
-------------------------Raul--------------- (or Owen)
------------------Ronaldo------------------
I've chose to put each of the midfielders/strikers on individual lines to get the point across of their preferred roles. Beckham would be able to push out right for his crosses whilst attacking, but can also contribute defensively as we all know he will do no matter what we may want/think. Zidane has somewhat of a free role on the central/left side, while Robinho is a central attacking midfielder. Raul slots up front, but also comes back alot to help that left side where Zidane/R.Carlos is. This is the reason Gravesen is there to ensure a solid DM presence. Ronaldo of course is the most pushed up as he's our most lethal threat.
What do you guys think?
Chacarita Juniors
The artist formerly known as ronnifan9
mega montana... 
...how dare you! jk
He's Mexico's ICON, the "golden boy", the "it" guy, ...and yeah, he does play for barca.
If it bother you so much, I'll remove it after the game we have w/ T&T this Wednesday.
FigoISGod, you're a cheater! You posted that same info on xtratime forums.
Gotcha! 
...how dare you! jkHe's Mexico's ICON, the "golden boy", the "it" guy, ...and yeah, he does play for barca.
If it bother you so much, I'll remove it after the game we have w/ T&T this Wednesday.
FigoISGod, you're a cheater! You posted that same info on xtratime forums.
Gotcha! ronnifan9 said:FigoISGod, you're a cheater! You posted that same info on xtratime forums.
RUSI does it alot, too.
No problem in trying to get different people's opinions.
mega montana
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ronnifan9 said:mega montana...
He's Mexico's ICON, the "golden boy", the "it" guy, ...and yeah, he does play for barca.
If it bother you so much, I'll remove it after the game we have w/ T&T this Wednesday.
FigoISGod, you're a cheater! You posted that same info on xtratime forums.
just teasing man, rafa is a great player, too bad he is stuck in barcelona
ok, now that i'm more calmed:
Chapter I: Who's out?
Out
César
Celades (both already out)
Figo
Guti or Solari (not "and"... or!)
On Loan (or to RM B, if they win the promotion to Segunda)
Borja
Portillo
Mejía
Arbeloa
Chapter II: Lineup
assuming that we will sign Robinho, P. Garcia and S. Ramos (we should get them, sooner or later), my dream line-up would be:
1)
------------ Casillas ------------
Salgado - Helguera - Samuel - RC
----------- Gravesen -----------
---- Beckham --------- Raúl ----
------------ Robinho ------------
------ Owen ------ Ronaldo -----
Bench
Diego Lopez (GK)
Sergio Ramos
J. Woodgate (remember, i'm dreaming )
F. Pavon
P. García
Z. Zidane (yes! on bench )
Juanfran
Guti or Solari (whoever stays... we must keep one of them)
R. Bravo :-puke: (unless S. Ramos could play LB...)
Javi García
Jurado or Soldado
2) (more probable)
------------ Casillas ------------
Salgado - Helguera - Samuel - RC
----------- Gravesen -----------
---- Beckham ------- Zidane ----
-------------- Raúl -------------
----- Ronaldo ------ Robinho -----
Bench
the only change is: Owen out / Zidane in
22-23 players: ok. but it doesn't look too much better than the squad from last season
Chapter III: The Backups
if Luxa keeps the diamond:
Positions / Players / My Opinion
GK: Casillas and Diego López (ok, but Lopez is too unexperienced)
RB: Salgado and S. Ramos (ok)
RCB/LCB: Helguera, Samuel, Pavón, Woody, R. Bravo and S. Ramos (great)
LB: R. Carlos, R. Bravo and S. Ramos (ok)
RW: Beckham and Juanfran (!)
CDM: Gravesen, Guti (?), Helguera and Pablo García (good)
LW: Guti and/or Solari, Zidane, Raúl (good... maybe Robinho could play as LW again)
CAM: Guti (?), Zidane, Raúl and Robinho (ok, but it would be better if Guti stays)
FW: Raúl, Ronaldo, Robinho, Guti (?) and Owen (great)
unless Juanfran gets a LOT of experience in the U-20 World Cup, we will need another RW.
Chapter I: Who's out?
Out
César
Celades (both already out)
Figo
Guti or Solari (not "and"... or!)
On Loan (or to RM B, if they win the promotion to Segunda)
Borja
Portillo
Mejía
Arbeloa
Chapter II: Lineup
assuming that we will sign Robinho, P. Garcia and S. Ramos (we should get them, sooner or later), my dream line-up would be:
1)
------------ Casillas ------------
Salgado - Helguera - Samuel - RC
----------- Gravesen -----------
---- Beckham --------- Raúl ----
------------ Robinho ------------
------ Owen ------ Ronaldo -----
Bench
Diego Lopez (GK)
Sergio Ramos
J. Woodgate (remember, i'm dreaming
)F. Pavon
P. García
Z. Zidane (yes! on bench
)Juanfran
Guti or Solari (whoever stays... we must keep one of them)
R. Bravo :-puke: (unless S. Ramos could play LB...)
Javi García
Jurado or Soldado
2) (more probable)
------------ Casillas ------------
Salgado - Helguera - Samuel - RC
----------- Gravesen -----------
---- Beckham ------- Zidane ----
-------------- Raúl -------------
----- Ronaldo ------ Robinho -----
Bench
the only change is: Owen out / Zidane in
22-23 players: ok. but it doesn't look too much better than the squad from last season
Chapter III: The Backups
if Luxa keeps the diamond:
Positions / Players / My Opinion
GK: Casillas and Diego López (ok, but Lopez is too unexperienced)
RB: Salgado and S. Ramos (ok)
RCB/LCB: Helguera, Samuel, Pavón, Woody, R. Bravo and S. Ramos (great)
LB: R. Carlos, R. Bravo and S. Ramos (ok)
RW: Beckham and Juanfran (!)
CDM: Gravesen, Guti (?), Helguera and Pablo García (good)
LW: Guti and/or Solari, Zidane, Raúl (good... maybe Robinho could play as LW again)
CAM: Guti (?), Zidane, Raúl and Robinho (ok, but it would be better if Guti stays)
FW: Raúl, Ronaldo, Robinho, Guti (?) and Owen (great)
unless Juanfran gets a LOT of experience in the U-20 World Cup, we will need another RW.
Chacarita Juniors
The artist formerly known as ronnifan9
Nice stuff, Raiko...but I though Juanfran was on his way to Zaragoza. Ramos can play RM. Zizu on the bench, I don't agree. He'll be better this year, Euro tired him out...thats why he had "good" games and those games where he couldn't stop giving the ball away with his one-touch passes.
-Lineups will alwasy be changing 'cause of Red Card, Suspensions, and Injuries...so everybody should get plenty of playing time.
-Lineups will alwasy be changing 'cause of Red Card, Suspensions, and Injuries...so everybody should get plenty of playing time.
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