(Unofficial) 21st Century Add-on for CP14

About winter transfers for single-year team squads :

  • Pre-winter squads (Classic Patch structure)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Post-winter squads

    Votes: 5 100.0%
  • Both (can generate duplicated players)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    5
  • Poll closed .

JulesMate52

Club Supporter
Mate, there's something wrong with your uploaded file? . I've tried 3 times to download your file but the download always stopped few minutes later . I've downloaded other files to see if there's a problem with my internet. But the problem is only with your file. I dunno if others could download it, but at this point I can't download your add-on. Can you solve it or reuploaded? :(

UPDATE: Sorry mate, after so many tries. Finally I could download your file. Don't worry mate.
 
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Jbou41

Club Supporter
The next release should contain some third kits, winter transferts for Top 16 single-year teams and some fixes.

@FinoAllaFineADP
I can easily add your faces in this release if you want to share them, I'll mention you. Alternative kits are not my priority. For now, I want to find as most missing third kits as possible.
 

FinoAllaFineADP

Club Supporter
There bugs with some collar kits assignments, for example Juventus 14-15 kits, Arslan from Besiktas has buged face, Emre Can is twice for season 19-20, once at Juventus and once at Dortmund.
 

V.K

Starting XI
@Jbou41 Man this looks awesome! Unfortunately I'm away from my home PC right now but I'll make sure tocheck out your add-on as soon as possible when I get back!
I fully support your idea and believe that the 2010-2020 era deserves to be Classic too now.
This is something many of us have wanted, have started but I guess no one has actually finished:
My old screenshots :D



Since I haven't yet tested the add-on, here are some qustions based on what's written:
1. Did you fully convert F11, F12 etc databases so that they could be used with CM14 and F14?
2. I have quite an extensive collection of boots, kits, fonts and numbers for the 2010s - I'll try to find and share everything that can be useful in order to maximize the UCL graphics (i.e. UCL kits/3rd kits/fonts/numbers).
3. Have you added new stadiums or do you plan to add them in future updates? E.g. Wanda Metropolitano for Atletico Madrid or Parc Olympique Lyonnais for Lyon?
4. Do you have plans to add more teams from the XXI century when the ones present now are fully fixed and upgraded? UEFA Cup/Europa league top 16? All UCL group stage teams maybe?
5. Have you considered unifying all F14 patches from different seasons (13-14 to 19-20) into one DB? Meaning there'd be Premier League 13-14, Premier League 19-20 and teams like Arsenal 13-14, Arsenal 19-20 with random IDs? In essense, not just the UCl top 16 but all/most leagues available in various patches from various seasons in F14 format.
 

Jbou41

Club Supporter
Hello @V.K and thank you for your interest !

1) I didn't convert any database from previous FIFAs, I transfered players from FIFA 14 when the were not already in the patch. I created few players I didn't find neither in the patch nor in FIFA 14. It is totally editable with CM.

2) As single year teams were added according to their performances in UCL, having their UCL kits, fonts and kit numbers could be great.
There would be a problem concerning IDs (balls, fonts, kit numbers) as this add-on will evolve in parallel with the original CP14.

3) and 4) This is not in my plan to add new stadiums or new teams.
- Stadiums are in a classic stadium pack that will evolve, adding other would cause ID conflicts later
- New teams --> new players --> possible conflicts between players, I won't have enough time to manage them.
The idea in next releases is to better teams that are already in the add-on and to fix bugs.

5) I have not considered it. With this add-on, I really wanted to have the same architecture as the original patch : top 16 single-year teams and 5-year famous teams.
 

V.K

Starting XI
1) I didn't convert any database from previous FIFAs, I transfered players from FIFA 14 when the were not already in the patch. I created few players I didn't find neither in the patch nor in FIFA 14. It is totally editable with CM.
I see.
When you were adding players that are not present in CP, did you pay attention to the boot IDs?
You might have seen my Sputnik Automated Bootpack, it has all major boots used in 1990s - 2010s, and it is designed with CP boot IDs in mind.
So when you add a new player e.g. Aubameyang to Arsenal 2020, it would be very useful if he was assigned any of the Mercurial Superfly IDs from CP (for instance ID 6), in this case he will have year appropriate Superfly boots in every season he plays.

There would be a problem concerning IDs (balls, fonts, kit numbers) as this add-on will evolve in parallel with the original CP14.
@GIGGIRIVA @ACICOG have you guys considered making this add-on part of a new official release, maybe 3.0? Or at least trying to avoid using the same IDs? I think everyone would profit from that.

Similarly, about stadiums - personally what I would try to do is see what stadiums are needed for the 2010-2020 teams and check which of them are already available in HBZ mod 19-20 with IDs that do not conflict with CP.
Then it would be a matter of seconds to copy the needed stadium files and assign the respective stadium IDs in the DB.
But again, the ideal scenario would be to not waste any work and passion for CP and to align the use of IDs.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
I see.
When you were adding players that are not present in CP, did you pay attention to the boot IDs?
You might have seen my Sputnik Automated Bootpack, it has all major boots used in 1990s - 2010s, and it is designed with CP boot IDs in mind.
So when you add a new player e.g. Aubameyang to Arsenal 2020, it would be very useful if he was assigned any of the Mercurial Superfly IDs from CP (for instance ID 6), in this case he will have year appropriate Superfly boots in every season he plays.


@GIGGIRIVA @ACICOG have you guys considered making this add-on part of a new official release, maybe 3.0? Or at least trying to avoid using the same IDs? I think everyone would profit from that.

Similarly, about stadiums - personally what I would try to do is see what stadiums are needed for the 2010-2020 teams and check which of them are already available in HBZ mod 19-20 with IDs that do not conflict with CP.
Then it would be a matter of seconds to copy the needed stadium files and assign the respective stadium IDs in the DB.
But again, the ideal scenario would be to not waste any work and passion for CP and to align the use of IDs.
No, I've said that a lot of times. I do not consider the period from after 2010 to be historical (even the period from post 2005 to sincere beings). They are teams and tournaments that do not interest me, they are not classic .. I have said many times what I want to work on, what I aspire to. I want to recreate players, teams, tournaments from an era in which video games did not exist, when you listened to the games on the radio. The football of our fathers and grandfathers and maybe great-grandparents. I really appreciate the work done by Jbou41, a really splendid job also for the care in holding the skeleton of the patch and making it compatible. This is a work of great depth and dedication, the TOP! Personally this year I will probably not work on anything after 2000 but a lot on the years from 1950 to 1999. We will certainly use the non-qualified for the world championships but for db limits maybe I will have to insert them on a DB dedicated only to the world championships as well as the decades. So it is not a job that I will be able to do quickly or in the short term.
 

valambrosio2

Club Supporter
No, I've said that a lot of times. I do not consider the period from after 2010 to be historical (even the period from post 2005 to sincere beings). They are teams and tournaments that do not interest me, they are not classic .. I have said many times what I want to work on, what I aspire to. I want to recreate players, teams, tournaments from an era in which video games did not exist, when you listened to the games on the radio. The football of our fathers and grandfathers and maybe great-grandparents. I really appreciate the work done by Jbou41, a really splendid job also for the care in holding the skeleton of the patch and making it compatible. This is a work of great depth and dedication, the TOP! Personally this year I will probably not work on anything after 2000 but a lot on the years from 1950 to 1999. We will certainly use the non-qualified for the world championships but for db limits maybe I will have to insert them on a DB dedicated only to the world championships as well as the decades. So it is not a job that I will be able to do quickly or in the short term.
Totally agree with you, I like actual years but what I like the most is the era pre 2000, football that I start to know in the 80s, remember watching wcup games with my grandfather at 6 years old , collecting panini stickers when coming back from school with friends.. please go ahead with periods 80's 70s 90s an world cup qualifiers from those times, clubs teams etc etc

Moreover, actual period is already available in all patches and games, the focus must be on early :D
 

V.K

Starting XI
I really appreciate the work done by Jbou41, a really splendid job also for the care in holding the skeleton of the patch and making it compatible. This is a work of great depth and dedication, the TOP!
Yes, that's what I'm talking about: if not incorporating this add-on into an official CP release, then at least coordinating regarding the team/player/ball IDs, where possible, so that this tremendous work does not conflict with future official CP updates.


@Jbou41 Finally have had the chance to test the add-on and it's excellent, literally what I was looking for and planning to do for a while. Splendid work!

Now, as a perfectionist of sorts, I did notice some things that can be improved:
- squads and transfers: Bale is not in Real Madrid 13-14, Adebayor is not in Real Madrid 10-11, etc (might be due to corresponding patches having earlier squad files; should be easy to fixed cross-checking with the late season squads)
- kits/fonts/jersey name positioning/collars etc: could be fixed with patch exports/personal graphic collections (if you still have the seasonal patches, can you export and reuse the actual fonts/numers/UCL kits?
Additionally, certain kits could use individual fine tuning, as they have overlapping jerseyname positioning, double logos or awkward layouts

- fan scarves: as far as I understand, if a team has no flag/scarf rx3 with correct hex value, the fans will use the error-color blue-and-green textures. Again if I remember correctly in CP14 these files were generated automatically, maybe something similar can be done here too to avoid blue-and-green scarves

- tournament dressing: a nice little feature would be having year specific UCL tournament dressings like this

- balls: would be nice to have additional balls for each UCL Final (I have the full collection and will share if needed) plus optionally domestic league balls (like Nike Ordem) for potential domestic games/friendlies and for football museum value



UPD: finally, please do let me know whether you've already fixed some of the issues and whether you're open for help either here or in PMs. Thank you again.
 
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Jbou41

Club Supporter
I won't have much time for the add-on this month but I am slowly working on the 1.1 version.

- I have collected missing third kits for almost every single year teams thanks to the community.
Besides, I am looking for UCL Copenhagen 10-11 kits if someone has them.

@V.K
- I have nearly finished an excel file with winter transfers from the decade.
In the end, single-year teams should have every important players from both parts of the season (before/after winters) despite some duplicates from one team to another.
Teams have most of their summer transfers but may not have last-minute ones. I take into account every lacking transfer.

- I will take a look at all the kits to fix this kind of problems.
I don't have seasonal raw data anymore (old HDD breakdown :( )

- Generating flags might be the solution to the scarf problem.

- I don't really know how to manage tournament dressing (is it in the sceneassets/tournament directory ?)
It would be nice to have these dressings anyway !

- UCL balls are not well managed in the add-on. Having a complete set of UCL and UCL Final balls would also be a good addition.
 

V.K

Starting XI
In the end, single-year teams should have every important players from both parts of the season (before/after winters) despite some duplicates from one team to another.
I believe Classic Patch has sticked to the rule of one team per season, as of the UCL final day (e.g. Ronaldo is in Milan 06-07 and not in Real Madrid 06-07).
Personally I believe this is the best way of doing things, at least to avoid playing Ronaldo vs Ronaldo in tournament mode.
What do you think?

- I don't really know how to manage tournament dressing (is it in the sceneassets/tournament directory ?)
It would be nice to have these dressings anyway !
Yes, e.g. specifictournament_128293_141_2.rx3 will assign a specific dressing to team ID 128293, when they are playing in league ID 141 at stadium ID 2.
Similarly, specifictournament_0_134_0 will be used by all teams at all stadiums when league ID 134 matches are played.

- UCL balls are not well managed in the add-on. Having a complete set of UCL and UCL Final balls would also be a good addition.
I'll send you my collection.
 

Jbou41

Club Supporter
I believe Classic Patch has sticked to the rule of one team per season, as of the UCL final day (e.g. Ronaldo is in Milan 06-07 and not in Real Madrid 06-07).
Personally I believe this is the best way of doing things, at least to avoid playing Ronaldo vs Ronaldo in tournament mode.
What do you think?
You're right, duplicated players impact realism but, on another side, players that left on winter still played half of the season... And players that were not here at the beginning of the season sometimes played UCL final with their new clubs.
By default, If I wanted to follow the patch structure I would take pre-winter teams.
However, this is a real issue of the add-on as winter transfers became very common in the previous decade. I want to create a poll for that.

I'll send you my collection.
Nice !
 

V.K

Starting XI
I want to create a poll for that.
Why is CP14 structure marked as "pre-winter" though? Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't CP14 squads basically as per end of the season, i.e. post winter transfers?

By the way big thanks for including unqualified World Cup squads. Having a blast with Russia 2010 (biggest heartbreak ever in football when we failed to qualify over Slovenia), but a couple of points to mention:
1. don't think Renat Yanbaev (LB) should be playing as CM. He only played 4 games during those qualifiers and all as LB.
The most probable lineup for WC 2010 would be: Akinfeev -- Anyukov - Ignashevich - Berezutskiy - Zhirkov -- Denisov - Semak - Zyryanov/Semshov -- Arshavin - Pavlyuchenko - Bystrov/Bilyaletdinov
2. the kits have Euro 2012 qualifiers badges. For purity of experience, I suggest adding WC 2010 badges and armbands for such teams, as if they actually qualified:

3. the font name could use some adjusting to the numbers color:


Sent.
 
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FinoAllaFineADP

Club Supporter
There's some minifaces missing, for example Masiello or Wallace, but i understand this is a minor detail, also I think would be great if @V.K could share his boots and badges collection, that would be awesome, and could make even better the experience.
 

Jbou41

Club Supporter
@V.K
You're right, I misunderstood, Classic Patch has chosen post-winter squads.
Russia 2010 team improvements are good to know !
 
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V.K

Starting XI
For some reason there are two issues I still can't resolve: the 2009-15 league is called ANGUILLA and the 2010-18 league is called COMOROS.
Have tried overwriting the loc folder but no luck so far. Does anyone know how those "country/league names" work otherwise?
And when selecting a team with a generic stadium, and then trying to change the stadium before the game, all stadium names disappear from the selection:



Also about Russia 2010 forgot to mention one thing: it is currently assigned the generic Stadion Olympik with the name of Luzhniki Stadium, all the while there is already the real Luzhniki Stadium (old) in CP14.


I think would be great if @V.K could share his boots and badges collection, that would be awesome, and could make even better the experience.
Not sure what badges you mean but I'm already working on the boots and the 2010-2020 collection for Sputnik automated bootpack!
 
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DeWoo

Club Supporter
@Jbou41

I noticed some relevant mismatch between CP 2.4 and the add-on. It looks like you included there not the most up to date faces. Please do not include any faces already existing in CP 2.4 and 2.5 in next release of your add-on, but only missing faces from 2010-2020. Look at below Barthez example. Eyes are different. The same noticed with Adriano Leite.





 

Jbou41

Club Supporter
Hi everyone,

I want to thank all of you for your feedbacks !

Here is the link to download a new version, compatible with the 2.5 version of the Classic Patch 14. The second post of the thread have been updated.
The archive also contains a prototype of an application that generates custom database tables. That allows to select leagues you want from a decade database and put them in a single database.

You can download it here.

From now on, updates of the addon will be bug fixes (no more content). I won't have much time to add new things and @valambrosio2 is working on a really promising patch !
I still can update the application if some people are interested in.
 

valambrosio2

Club Supporter
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Hi everyone,

I want to thank all of you for your feedbacks !

Here is the link to download a new version, compatible with the 2.5 version of the Classic Patch 14. The second post of the thread have been updated.
The archive also contains a prototype of an application that generates custom database tables. That allows to select leagues you want from a decade database and put them in a single database.

You can download it here.

From now on, updates of the addon will be bug fixes (no more content). I won't have much time to add new things and @valambrosio2 is working on a really promising patch !
I still can update the application if some people are interested in.
really nice jbou :) you did a great work on this mod!! and yes, I also try to keep the ids you used for single year teams on mine, so that it doesn't interfere and db can easily be switched for users between original CP and addons :)
 


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