WC Quarter-Final: Germany - Argentina {P & R}

[Jannes]

Greg, what do you mean with ****test team ?

And Seggie, don´t talk ****. After/with Argentina we was the best team in the WC. But hey, a Real Madrid fans said it. So it´s a lil bit funny.

 

[Seggie8]

I'm not talking sh*t. Germany won, so be it. You guys misunderstood me but its ok...It's a fact that this WC was demolished by racism, hatred and bad calls. Fifa Fair Play my ass. Theres no such thing as fair play in soccer anymore and this WC proved it without a doubt. Players diving like no tomorrow, players swearing at coaches, players throwing racist remarks about countries (and even coaches making racist remarks about players)... it was endless.

But hey, it's funny that racism has been a factor in Germany isn't it?

 

[-William-]

Podolski's "heil" was not with the left, it was with the right Vince. However, as I already said, it was clearly not his intent to make a Nazi gesture to the entire world. I'm just saying, it can be misinterpreted. I don't think he's a Jew, he doesn't look like any Jews I know.

It was with his left, i wouldn't be able to tell if he's jewish or not..oh well, i thought it was a fair match and that Argentina just had bad luck

 

[KillerMinT]

Go Home, bad losers.

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first of all, mature
second, germany never deserved to win, they were so lost, it was clear the superiority of argentina agianst them, we always had the ball and we always were in their side of the pitch.
what happened? well like always, the refery was on the side of germany, like it happend with italy, and so many others matches. every time argentina was close, and a germany made a fault, the refery didnt see anything or what is worst, he took yellow to our players

but well...
you cant be proud of winning that way.
on the other hand, here in argentina, we are angry and annoyed of that unfair result, but we are proud becouse we know that that match in fact was our, and im not talking just for me, i know that most of people fell that way.

good game, you played well, but never as well as we did.

 

[big al]

why did klinsman took off Klose; ; it think germany couldt finish the game before the penaltys; by far klose and frings the best players in this world cup. iam happy my fellow countryman Osorio in going to play in germany with sttutgart.

i wont bash argentina cause they beat my country; but think mexico could give a better fight to gemany.

btw ;Heinze is a cancer in a real good competitive team like argetina i been saying this even before the world cup.

Bierhoff was wrong to make fun of argentina; thats why the brawl started; you should never make fun of the losing team imo; :boohoo:

 

[Rodrigo]

AUF WIEDERSEHEN ARGENTINA!!!

 

[scar]

It was with his left, i wouldn't be able to tell if he's jewish or not..oh well, i thought it was a fair match and that Argentina just had bad luck

Omg. Podolski and the Nazi gesture? Mates that not true! Podolski is even too stupid to know such gestures

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

Yeah germans celebrate while you can, because if Argentina is **** you are the biggest **** out there you couldn't outplay us and just won by penalties, so take care.

andy, i believe you are being a bit harsh on Riquelme he had probably his best perfomance on this world cup.

Evidently we got bad luck, Pato's injury, notice the ref not calling foul there, Crespo's injury, Lucho's injury after the 3 subs were made, the ref being somewhat biased. But well we lost in penalties which is a lottery and evidently we didn't get the proper numbers, and i wouldn't really blame Pekerman becaus even with these players we still could have won the match without penalties.

And also the problems started by a supposed provocation by Bierhoff just watch the germans covering him.

 

[Forza_Azzurri]

In all honesty, I believe the Argentine Coach, Pekerman comitted grave errors in the substitutions. Taking out Riquelme for Cambiasso turned out to be a disaster. Also, who is this Cruz player? All the Argentine stars were on the bench!? How can you put in a novice player while stars like Messi and Saviola are sitting on the bench in a World Cup QUARTER FINAL?

Too bad for Argentina, it was seriously bad luck after Abondanzierri had to go out with an injury.

 

[BayernFan01]

ok now everyone shut up...germany advances to the semi finals to meet italy. argentina is long gone

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

In all honesty, I believe the Argentine Coach, Pekerman comitted grave errors in the substitutions. Taking out Riquelme for Cambiasso turned out to be a disaster. Also, who is this Cruz player? All the Argentine stars were on the bench!? How can you put in a novice player while stars like Messi and Saviola are sitting on the bench in a World Cup QUARTER FINAL?

Too bad for Argentina, it was seriously bad luck after Abondanzierri had to go out with an injury.

Yeah, because Messi and Saviola are veterans.:boohoo:

Riquelme was tired apparently, Crespo injured so the closests thing to a "Crespo" in the bench is Cruz.

 

[big al]

Yeah germans celebrate while you can, because if Argentina is **** you are the biggest **** out there you couldn't outplay us and just won by penalties, so take care.

andy, i believe you are being a bit harsh on Riquelme he had probably his best perfomance on this world cup.

Evidently we got bad luck, Pato's injury, notice the ref not calling foul there, Crespo's injury, Lucho's injury after the 3 subs were made, the ref being somewhat biased. But well we lost in penalties which is a lottery and evidently we didn't get the proper numbers, and i wouldn't really blame Pekerman becaus even with these players we still could have won the match without penalties.

And also the problems started by a supposed provocation by Bierhoff just watch the germans covering him.

well i woulndt call it bad luck mate ; i would call it bad tecnique of taking penaltys ; if you review the penaltys argentina fail ; they were taken horrendously ; and i would not blame the subs either; cause you never know how subs are going to work i think pekerman knew better than you and me what he was doing;

and woulnt talk about the refs mate cause i remember some days a go againsnt mexico argetina was favor by the refs too.

but i do agree with you about bierhoff; shameless

 

[Spider-Man84]

First off...keeping Messi on the bench was the RIGHT move in this game. Messi was going to get owned around there. He is 19 now, and still hasn't developed completely. The towers, err should I say Germans would have manhandled the teen.

Aimar for Riquelme should've been the sub...not Cambiasso...Pekerman deserves the boot.

 

[El Diablo Rojo]

well i woulndt call it bad luck mate ; i would call it bad tecnique of taking penaltys ; if you review the penaltys argentina fail ; they were taken horrendously ; and i would not blame the subs either; cause you never know how subs are going to work i think pekerman knew better than you and me what he was doing;

and woulnt talk about the refs mate cause i remember some days a go againsnt mexico argetina was favor by the refs too.

but i do agree with you about bierhoff; shameless

Well Cruz scored the first penalty of Argentina.

And Mexico vs. Argentina referee wasn't as half as bad as this guy but i don't think it favoured Argentina(if it favoured anything it was Mexico).

And about the Bierhoff, that's what i heard, that he started the mess.

 

[Deisler]

We won, nuff said.
Argies if ya have to b!tch do it with class fellas. I mean no one wants to hear a bunch of Madidistas hate on Germany only couse we got so much success in competitions like this one.
C'mon man look at the English fans TOON ARMY and Pete (Even though that your Deutscher love is due to Huth and Ballack beach ) they give credit where credit is due.
Someone said he hates Germany couse of the 'dirty' game they have? Argies complainting about being dirty? Cry me a fvcking river boys....

FACT:
Germany to the last 4
Argentina without a coach.... Hijos des putas (Chill hombres im just joking)

PS: RUSI no hard feelings mate, i admit BOTH teams deserved to go through, luck was on our side this time. We will meet again.

 

[big al]

Well Cruz scored the first penalty of Argentina.

And Mexico vs. Argentina referee wasn't as half as bad as this guy but i don't think it favoured Argentina(if it favoured anything it was Mexico).

And about the Bierhoff, that's what i heard, that he started the mess.

ok mate lets agree to disagree ; and also i edit my post about bierhoff; i read in sportsite ; that all really started cause cufre kicked mertesacker; and that bierhoff inntervine and calling them sour losers ; nontheless shameless to argetina leaving that way.

 

[pede54]

C'mon man look at the English fans TOON ARMY and Pete (Even though that your Deutscher love is due to Huth and Ballack beach ) they give credit where credit is due.

Actually its because my Grandmother was German and I still have German family members.

 

[Kibe Kru]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/germany/5135124.stm

BBC reports it may have been Borowski who started it all, after scoring his penalty, but my guess as to who really started the fighting it is as good as yours. Shame really, as both teams were good enough to progress, and would deserve to go further.

 

[$chwenker]

Das Viertelfinale zwischen Argentinien und Deutschland hat einen unwürdigen Schlusspunkt gefunden. Mehrere südamerikanische Spieler griffen DFB-Teammanager Oliver Bierhoff an. Die Szene wuchs sich zu einem Massentumult aus - der Schiedsrichter zog sogar die Rote Karte.
Auslöser der Tumulte soll eine Geste von DFB-Mittelfeldspieler Tim Borowski gewesen sein. Dieser hatte nach seinem verwandelten Elfmeter zum 4:2 die argentinischen Spieler aufgefordert, endlich ruhig zu sein. Die argentinischen Profis hatten die deutschen Spieler nach jedem verwandelten Elfmeter mit Schmährufen belegt.

Nach der Entscheidung zugunsten der DFB-Elf lief der argentinische Ersatzspieler Leandro Cufre auf Per Mertesacker zu und trat diesen. Offenbar verwechselte Cufre den deutschen Abwehrspieler mit Borowski. Daraufhin zeigte der slowakischen Schiedsrichter Lubos Michel dem Südamerikaner die Rote Karte. "Es war unfair, was er getan hat. Aber er ist dafür bestraft worden. Und damit ist die Sache für mich auch erledigt. Wohin er mich getreten hat, spielt dabei keine Rolle mehr", sagte Mertesacker.

Auch Bierhoff bekam nach eigenen Angaben Schrammen am Bein ab. "Ich wollte schlichten und danach hatten sie es auf mich abgesehen", schilderte der Teammanager: "Es ist sehr traurig, dass so ein Bild in die Welt gesendet wird. Hier feiern die Fans friedlich miteinander. Da sollten auch die Sportler fair sein. Ich wollte meine Spieler verteidigen."

Translation (shortly):

After each of the German penalties, Argentinian players abused and insulted the German players. When Borowski scored, he made a gesture that they should be quiet now.
After the shootout Cufre probably confused Borowski with Mertesacker and kicked Mertesacker on the leg (instead of Borowski ). The ref gave Cufre the red card, and Mertesacker says "He kicked me, but he got punished by the red card so it's all finished for me. It doesnt matter where he hit me ..."
Bierhoff was attacked by other players when he wanted to defend his players and to arbitrate the dispute between Mertesacker and Cufre. He also got kicked and got some small injuries, too. He said "I'm quite sad about that. The fans are celebrating this worldcup peacefully, and the players should do the same ...".

 

[MaSsiVe]

each side has his own version of the story, so it's kind of useless to discuss who started it.....it's part of the past now anyway.