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Wikileaks

emmer

Senior Squad
I kind of agree. But the aliens might come into contact with us... Maybe they already have! They might be so different from us we can’t even see, feel or detect them. But that would put the whole concept of life on a totally different level.

Uh, I don’t know. The problem (?) is that we’re waiting/looking for extraterrestrial species based on a somewhat restrict concept of life. The movies reflect that.

:icon_spin:
 

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Pedro
Staff member
::shinji::;2961085 said:
Assange should worry too hard, at least his cell will be furnished by Ikea. This photo of a Swedish prison cell looks better than where I live now.



Throw in a laptop, a PS3 and WiFi and I would go rape a bitch in Sweden.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
skiptomylou;2961673 said:
Throw in a laptop, a PS3 and WiFi and I would go rape a bitch in Sweden.

For real dude. If that's the price of having unprotected sex I'm willing to take that risk.
 
ShiftyPowers;2961149 said:
This is literally one of the most ironic and hilarious things I've read in a long time

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/12/152465.htm

No kidding, there's a lot of irony/hypocrisy flying around out there right now over this. Wasn't it not that long ago that Hilary Clinton was a major advocate of internet freedom, how quickly her tune has changed. My favourite is Mike Huckabee calling for Assange to be executed, wait a minute, did he forget that guy from Nazareth he worships got unjustly murdered for challenging the establishment too? Wait, what!? :facepalm:
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
::shinji::;2961758 said:
I'd imagine Sweden probably has some pretty lax conjugal visit rules too :redface:

First serial "rapist" to ever commit crimes almost entirely from a jail cell (not against fellow inmates)?
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
They're "investigating". Any charge would be politically motivated and it's hard to imagine there's any charge they could bring that wouldn't violate the first amendment and therefore be invalid. Assange should be more worried about having a dark sack put over his head, pushed on a plane, and tortured in Poland without contact with the outside world.
 

Ubik Valis

Croatian Viking
Oh, and speaking of the UFO talk earlier, all I can say is:

Is sure fu*king hope there's actual, intelligent life out there, and they come straighten up Earth's sh!t, ASAP.

But I realize that thought is as naive as religion...
 

Tw33ker

Club Supporter
::shinji::;2961085 said:
Assange should worry too hard, at least his cell will be furnished by Ikea. This photo of a Swedish prison cell looks better than where I live now.


Thats pretty crazy.........its rather disturbing that its more like accomodations lol :rolleyes:

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Zlatan

Fan Favourite
'And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space, 'cause there's bugger all down here on earth.'

 
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Sir Calumn

Guest
Firstly, the most important thing this bout of Wikileaks cables has done is expose the degree to which confidentiality laws designed to protect national security are in fact being used to hide potentially embarrassing material which is not a security threat. This helps the public make informed political decisions as we know more about the behaviour of our elected representatives.

Secondly, they have exposed deficiencies in the US security services which allowed so many individuals to have access to such a plethora of unrelated documents and them to be leaked so easily. This helps the security services themselves face up to their problems and tighten security, thankful that these deficiencies have been exposed with relatively harmless material.

Thirdly, in an age of dying print journalism, they expose how poorly professional investigative reporters are doing their jobs, if such information is so readily and easily available to amateurs. This helps the media as it is a wake up call to raise standards in an industry which is rapidly failing.

So all in all, these leaks have been positive.

They have not told us anything we didnt know (or expect). They have not printed anything dangerous to the lives of any individuals (and should not, if they have such material). It is a minor flurry of interesting but unrelevatory cables which have exposed a few minor hidden truths. Nothing more.

Julian Assange is not a hero, or a villain. He is a sleazy, self publicizing bastard. He probably did use his celebrity to push those girls into sex acts they may not have wished to perform, and in Sweden that is against the law. But, doubtless, the publicity and antipathy surrounding the man has been a significant contributing factor to the unusual rigor with which the authorities have pursued these minor allegations.

It is an overblown affair. This is not a battle of free speech vs tyranny. The Assange arrest is not a massive international government conspiracy. It is a minor historical footnote which all concerned have chosen to blow out of proportion, and I suspect all concerned will regret that choice.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Agree with everything, but there HAVE been some pretty important revelations from these cables that we weren't aware of. For example the US State Department making sure independent Spanish judges don't investigate Bush Administration human rights violations against Spanish citizens. If I was a Spanish citizen I'd be ******* pissed.
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
ShiftyPowers;2965154 said:
Agree with everything, but there HAVE been some pretty important revelations from these cables that we weren't aware of. For example the US State Department making sure independent Spanish judges don't investigate Bush Administration human rights violations against Spanish citizens. If I was a Spanish citizen I'd be ******* pissed.

Judge Garzon ftw.
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
He got disbarred this year in Spain for trying to investigate "Manos Limpios" (Clean Hands) a falangist counter-terrorist group. My memory is sketchy, but I think they "exiled" him to work in the Netherlands, i think at the ICJ or some other international organization in the Hague.
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Ahhhhhhhh. That sucks. For all the flowery hopes and dreams there's really very little he can do at the ICJ. In Spain he could do a ton with that universal jurisdiction: obviously the Pinochet case made him famous.
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
Well it seems that universal jurisdiction doesn't actually apply evenly to all political crimes in Spain. :S
 

ShiftyPowers

Make America Great Again
Interesting. One would think torture and other gross human rights violations should be prosecuted no matter who carries them out... if Spain felt differently perhaps they never should have enacted that statute. Most nations don't have one.
 


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