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panxoman said:Do you now that Luxemburgo got during his year in front of RM the same points than Rijkaard in Barcelona.
His results hasn't been that bad, the problem is that their football style is very poor and based only in Ronaldo and Casillas inspiration. But if you only look at the points ... it's only 6 points behind and still alive in CL. Not that bad.
Rob said:They lack LOGIC.
Swerve said:It isn't the players they have now, because some of them are still very good (i.e.- Beckham, Casillas and even Gravesen). The problem is CLEARLY management. They could have had Ronaldinho for very little compared to what he is worth, but didn't buy him because he isn't the prettiest man (this b/c they had zidane nonsense must stop because Ronaldinho can play anywhere in midfield except DM). They could also have very easily have had Eto'o as well but for some very strange reason didn't want him. This simple bit of business alone would have meant that Barca would be a third of the team they are now and would probably led to at least 1 La Liga title. Letting Makelele go, obviously a huge mistake, mercenary or not, he has proven his worth time and again for a Chelsea side where he is actually the only true midfielder they play (Lampard can hardly be found in his defensive half).
They also let Morientes go, a proven striker in Spain and Europe, then they let Owen go who also scored for fun in the 3 minutes per game that he actually got. Now, they have a striker problem, a midfield problem and a defense problem. Want to blame someone, blame management.
Yea that was kinda implied with my later posts, but thanksmhflierman said:...and balance.
And don't give me that "Chelsea can buy 30 players in 2 seasons" crap. It's well known that Real Madrid were always buying all the stars before Abramovich came onto the scene. Instead of buying two stars they didn't really need, Real Madrid should have bought four players that would have brought balance to the team.
Swerve said:They could have had Ronaldinho for very little compared to what he is worth, but didn't buy him because he isn't the prettiest man (this b/c they had zidane nonsense must stop because Ronaldinho can play anywhere in midfield except DM
Swerve said:They could also have very easily have had Eto'o as well but for some very strange reason didn't want him.
Swerve said:Letting Makelele go, obviously a huge mistake, mercenary or not,
Swerve said:he has proven his worth time and again for a Chelsea side where he is actually the only true midfielder they play (Lampard can hardly be found in his defensive half).
Swerve said:They also let Morientes go, a proven striker in Spain and Europe,
Swerve said:then they let Owen go who also scored for fun in the 3 minutes per game that he actually got.
Swerve said:Now, they have a striker problem,
Swerve said:a midfield problem,
Swerve said:and a defense problem.
Swerve said:Want to blame someone, blame management.
Socrates said:Alright alright now you need to be quite. Beckham has been one of the better players of midfield working his ass off and getting assists.
Ramos has been the better players of defence, even as a DM he did great. Ramos has been the best singing this season ( other than his red cards, 2 of which were unfair )
Do you actually watch Madrid games or do you just talk out of your ass?? :boohoo:
Moreira_Benfica said:hey was the thread name not whats YOUR TAKE so thats my take,
Do NOT compare Luxe to Rijkaard. Regardless of winning percentage, Rijkaard has a phenomenal system and Luxe had no system. The difference was that Madrid's superstars were usually able to bail out Luxe. This year they couldn't and the system was exposed.Luxa didnt start the MAdrid Crisis IMO. The loss against Zaragoza at the King's Cup Final did. Luxa's record almost equals Rijkjkjkjkjjkard's at Barca.
Voltaic Borusse said:Don't pin all of the blame on Luxemburgo and his tactics. The cancerous management is also at fault here, too, and deserves part of the blame for the ongoing troubles at Real Madrid. Admit it, Perez (and his clown brigade) haven't made the best of decisions for the club within the last couple of years.
Socrates said:Sorry i didnt know i couldnt defend my players, especially the one that were playing good that were unfairly talked about by you
Crusad3r said:Unlike Chelsea, not other teams can sign 30 players in 2 seasons to test what they need and what they dont need. Madrid just can aford 5 top players.