Comments on: Pro Evo 2011 Soccergaming playtest

By: LoranM

LoranM — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:37:26 +0000

I agree with stormrider. Torres speed is fare, because he fast but not the fastest, he is still faster than the majority of the defenders. But the thing with torres as has been foreteld already is his speed the first four meters. That attribute is called acceleration. Didi u IAN notice the number on this attribute?

And I’m a LFC fan since boyhood.

By: villa7

villa7 — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:38:03 +0000

give me the stats of david villa on pes 2011

By: Ian

Ian — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:34:27 +0000

@Bigmouth- Couldn’t agree more, the shooting on FIFA mars an otherwise solid game. I wish I could tell you more about the preview code, but there was only so much I could glean from four hours with the game. I should probably have probed a bit further.

@Anonymous- We didn’t have enough time to give the ‘Become a Legend’ mode a proper going over, but we were told that it would be improved. I quite enjoyed BAL last time around, especially with classic players turned on; nothing quite beats linking up with Eric Cantona.
I can’t give you any specifics unfortunately, we were primarily trying to see how the game played on exhibition mode, just to examine the gameplay updates. I’m sad to say that we’ll have to wait a while longer before more gets revealed about ‘Become a Legend’.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:51:38 +0000

”Become a Legend, so we were told, has been radically overhauled, and should be far more involving”

I love the become a legend mode!! but its not very addictive, so sometimes i play just one season, get a move to a big club, and get fed up. It should be more difficult, and more involving(issue already being addressed).

I am very happy to hear this!

please Ian, were you told anything further about the become a legend mode, or are we in for a suprise???

By: Bigmouth

Bigmouth — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:08:17 +0000

@Ian, thanks for the reply. It just seems odd that these playtests are taking place on the PS3 but all videos hint at 360. Still, it was just curiosity really, theres never much between the versions except controller preference I think.

I agree with you that the shooting system is one thing that sets PES & FIFA apart. When I miss in PES i feel partly to blame, or its because a player’s stats mean he’s not good on his weaker foot, or from long range for example. There’s usually a tangible reason for success or failure. In FIFA I always feel like misses are either due to a scripted occurrence (such as always hitting side netting from not very tight angles) or its too random (such as hitting a shot way wide with a player who is supposed to have good shooting ability. Sure, there are factors in FIFA that obviously impede shooting success, such as having back to goal, but I think PES has always lead to more satisfaction when shooting, whether it goes in or goes wide. FIFA’s shooting feels a bit….empty?? Again, its hard to rationalise.

Thats not to say I havent thoroughly enjoyed FIFA 10, in fact, its hard to fault in many areas, and it provides a well grounded game of footy. I’ve just missed good old PES and the excitement that it brings.

By: Ian

Ian — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:05:30 +0000

@ Bigmouth- The code was played on PS3, though that’s as much as I can tell you. I’ve no idea what console the game’s been developed on (though I’d assume PS3).
I agree with you about FIFA, they’ve taken huge steps, and I personally think that they released the better game last year. But… it’s not PES. FIFA definitely lacks a special quality that PES has; take the shooting system for instance. FIFA often feels scripted and slow, and PES has always managed to avoid that. This year’s edition seems much better than last year’s FIFA, though I’m reserving judgement for the final release.
@ Stormrider- I wish these comments were like the ones on sky sports. Then I’d be able to see ‘(Man United fan)’ next to your name.
In all seriousness though, you may have a point, I don’t have stats to back my opinion up. On the other hand, the one thing I’ve always noticed about Torres is his pace over ten yards, and this is the source of much of his success. He’s regularly deemed to be slower than (for example) Rooney on PES, and I can’t say I agree with it.
Your Ryan Babel comment baffles me, though it wouldn’t surprise me if your assertion is accurate. I remember reading a few years ago that Dennis Rommedahl was the fastest player in the Premier League, but he never seemed that quick on the pitch.
I agree with you 100% about the rest of your comment. Speed has been too much of a factor in PES at times. It should be a powerful tool, but not one that overrides strength, technique and positioning so much.
@ Anonymous- I think the usual options are available under general settings. I don’t remember seeing anything out of the ordinary. I seem to remember there being an orange ball for snowy matches though.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 00:10:16 +0000

just a question please..
What options are available under General Settings, when you are about to start a match? or is it the same stuff?(weather-sunny, rainy, time-day, night..etc.)

By: Stormrider

Stormrider — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 00:02:37 +0000

Good article Ian I thoroughly enjoyed reading that but I don’t understand the obsession with Fernando Torres’ speed. He’s plenty quick in the game already, amongst the quickest natural CF. All his other attributes are great and combine to make him a lethal goal machine so I don’t understand all this underrated talk.

In reality he’s not in the top echelon of speedsters. He’s not even the fastest at Anfield as that title goes to Ryan Babel. As for 2nd fastest it’s very debatable and he’s certainly not the clear cut favourite.

But I do understand where you’re coming from in regards to players like him being out paced by these supposedly slower defenders. It has everything to do with a CPU cheat which boosts the defenders’ speed and pretty much has nothing to do with his actual attribute as IMO it’s well represented. I’m not blindly defending Konami here as there are always far too many players with very wrong attributes and positions in every edition of Pes but every now and then they hit the nail on the head in this department and IMO Torres is one such case.

This speed cheat that’s been bugging the series for a few years has got to go and hopefully the CPU in Pes 2011 has received more TLC this year so that it doesn’t have to rely on cheap tricks to give us a challenge. If you think about it, Torres’ top speed of 84 is plenty enough to beat 95% of the EPL center backs whom fall in the 65-78 top speed range. Wouldn’t you agree?

By: Bigmouth

Bigmouth — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:35:00 +0000

Hi, great preview thanks. Could you please answer a question - was the preview code played on PS3? I am assuming it was since Dougie mentioned not knowing the equivalent button for x on an Xbox controller. I’m just a bit confused as there are lots of preview videos on youtube that all appear to be on 360 since the 360 controller buttons appear during menu sections. Either way, are you able to give me any insight into which platform PES 2011 is developed on? I know previously they were developed on PS2 then ported to the original xbox, is it the other way round this generation? Thanks in advance. By the way, i’m feeling pretty postitive this year about PES. WHilst I admit that FIFA has taken the lead over the last couple of years in terms of progression, there’s still something missing on the latest FIFA games. Its hard to put our finger on but I think it misses the magic of the glory days of PES. The only way I can describe it is that, when I play FIFA 10 against the AI I’m pretty sure I know whats going to happen and what the outcome will be, and also the type of goals I’ll score. With PES, I was always surprised, which used to be a great thing.

By: Ian

Ian — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:47:24 +0000

1. Little (and by that I mean nothing) was revealed about the track listing within the game, so I can’t really answer that question. I think Konami need to make playlists an option though, hopefully we can suggest it to them before the game comes out. For the time being I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

2. The only nugget of information provided about the other licensed English team was that it wont be Liverpool (that’s not me trying to make a jokey hint that it will be Liverpool by the way). Besides that we were told nothing.

3. I didn’t notice any manager or sub reactions, and I don’t know if there are plans to add these at a later date.

Thanks for the questions, and by all means keep ‘em coming.