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[DOWNLOAD] Classic Patch 14

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  • ITA

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • ENG

    Votes: 40 60.6%
  • FRA

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • GER

    Votes: 3 4.5%
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    Votes: 17 25.8%

  • Total voters
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M8no2001

Senior Squad
Well. after about 10 days of trial... do you like the new format, the new league system?
For me it is a big improvement.
I like the possibility of creating theoretically every league with complete teams.
And I also like the new organization of the national teams
I think because of the new system teams will perhaps be created that would never be created with the system before
 

V.K

Starting XI
Well. after about 10 days of trial... do you like the new format, the new league system?
Haven't had the time/space to install and test it yet.

But please do add the few teams I submitted as CMPs like Dynamo Moscow 05-06 to CP 4.1.
Thank you.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Haven't had the time/space to install and test it yet.

But please do add the few teams I submitted as CMPs like Dynamo Moscow 05-06 to CP 4.1.
Thank you.
Time to time. At the moment I'm at rest until about half the month. I haven't touched a database since before Christmas. All the faces posted in the last few days have not even been activated in the various databases. I'll be able to do it in the next few weeks
 

V.K

Starting XI
Hi, I'm having an issue with the latest version, For some reason the adboards aren't matching up with the database I'm currently using (05/06)
Yes this is the problem now that was to expected:
With the current system we have: we can have 1 adboard, 1 ball, 1 kitoverlay, 1 specificwipe assigned for the whole "league" (e.g. UCL 2009-10), very efficient - so where did the 266 specificadboards come from?

With the new system we are going to have to assign a team-specific-adboard, ball, kitoverlay, etc for every single team in the patch, if we want to play a UCL friendly game between Barcelona 09-10 and Man Utd 09-10 because these will now be in different "leagues" (i.e. Spain 2009-10 and England 2009-10).
That means: specificball (ucl 09-10) for Barca 09-10, specificadboard (ucl 09-10) for Barca 09-10, etc.

Or do we now focus on domestic leagues, so the Spain 2009-10 "league" will only have 1 adboard (generic La Liga 2009-10 season) assigned?
In that case, I know I know, some people won't care, but 1 generic adboard for the whole league will not look anywhere good enough (Barca 09-10 will need Nike, Estrella, Unicef adboards and Real madrid 2009-10 will need adidas, Bwin, FIFA 10 adboards, etc).

Previously just 1 adboard (UCL) covered the whole season for all leagues and teams, now we would need hundreds of such adboards to keep the 2000s decade authentic for each team (or at least league).

I have created a few such specific adboards before
Chelsea 2009-10
chelsea 09 10.png


Tottenham Hotspur 2009-10
Tottenham 09 10.png

Rique has also made some
BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE ADBOARDS 2.0:

View attachment 20384
ARSENAL 2010 ADBOARDS 2.0:

View attachment 20337

But in order to keep at least the top teams/leagues looking authentic, we'd have to create a lot more.
Personally I'll see what I can do (probably mostly EPL).
Maybe Paolo would be interested in doing some :)
More than welcome to help in any way...
And @MarlonAnthony feel free to join the cause. MS Paint skills are essentially enough ;)
Alternatively, we could also source some files from older FIFA/PES 2006-10 mods.
 
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VNKN94

Club Supporter
Yes this is the problem now that was to expected:


Previously just 1 adboard (UCL) covered the whole season for all leagues and teams, now we would need hundreds of such adboards to keep the 2000s decade authentic for each team (or at least league).

I have created a few such specific adboards before


Rique has also made some



But in order to keep at least the top teams/leagues looking authentic, we'd have to create a lot more.
Personally I'll see what I can do (probably mostly EPL).
Maybe Paolo would be interested in doing some :)

And @MarlonAnthony feel free to join the cause. MS Paint skills are essentially enough ;)
Alternatively, we could also source some files from older FIFA/PES 2006-10 mods.
Is there a way to convert pes adboards to png? Because I know that the pes adboards are bin files
 

V.K

Starting XI
Is there a way to convert pes adboards to png? Because I know that the pes adboards are bin files
Of course, all graphics first need to be made in png/bmp and then imported into a container.
I remember when I used to mod PES 2008 I'd use Game Graphic Studio.

Now, the easier and faster way would be using FIFA 10/09/08 etc mods because CM was always a thing thanks to Rinaldo so people were posting/importing actual png/bmp files.

For instance this FIFA 10 Bundesliga pack has 9 boards for each team
1672823667846.png

And with a quick resizing we can have
Bayern Munich 09/10 adboards
1672823625513.png


Similarly, FC Barcelona 07/08 adboards
1672823860542.png
 

DeWoo

Club Supporter
Of course, all graphics first need to be made in png/bmp and then imported into a container.
I remember when I used to mod PES 2008 I'd use Game Graphic Studio.

Now, the easier and faster way would be using FIFA 10/09/08 etc mods because CM was always a thing thanks to Rinaldo so people were posting/importing actual png/bmp files.

For instance this FIFA 10 Bundesliga pack has 9 boards for each team
View attachment 114145
And with a quick resizing we can have
Bayern Munich 09/10 adboards
View attachment 114144

Similarly, FC Barcelona 07/08 adboards
View attachment 114146
Maybe it would be easier to create some generic adboards specific for each league of each season?
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
5 adbords would be enough for me. (Italy, France, England, Spain, Germany) With a single generic adboard with the most common sponsors you can cover an entire decade without weighing down the patch. I removed all team specific adboards for those 5 leagues to save space and make it easier for anyone to add new teams. If you have only one adboards set up, creating a team has one less thing to think about since it is automated based on the league ID. Having adboards for each team is a waste of unnecessary space. That's about 700 mb for the whole decade. I prefer having 20 teams per league in the generic adboards database than having only 5 hyper detailed teams per league. I Point to the substance of the patch. Hyperrealism for such a large patch is harmful, weighed and unnecessary. It only leads to wasting time on useless details that any user ignores after two games. In short, all work for nothing. Smoke and not roast.
 

valambrosio2

Senior Squad
you can even go until 03-04, of course it needs more work to de-pixelate the adboards and polish them but with better resizing and some filters they could be quite quickly ok

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ukwe

Youth Team
5 adbords would be enough for me. (Italy, France, England, Spain, Germany) With a single generic adboard with the most common sponsors you can cover an entire decade without weighing down the patch. I removed all team specific adboards for those 5 leagues to save space and make it easier for anyone to add new teams. If you have only one adboards set up, creating a team has one less thing to think about since it is automated based on the league ID. Having adboards for each team is a waste of unnecessary space. That's about 700 mb for the whole decade. I prefer having 20 teams per league in the generic adboards database than having only 5 hyper detailed teams per league. I Point to the substance of the patch. Hyperrealism for such a large patch is harmful, weighed and unnecessary. It only leads to wasting time on useless details that any user ignores after two games. In short, all work for nothing. Smoke and not roast.
Yeah, with the quantity this patch has to offer (i believe it triples almost any other patch in football games), i don´t think details such as adboards would influence the experience a lot, maybe for a spin off of this patch (think about it, this patch offers the possibility of being the base for specific year patches!!!). If i had to choose details, i would probably focus on stadium quantity or specific faces/hair.
Ps. I don´t think anyone mentioned it before, but a work that could be done for the purposes of this patch is to adapt the modern stadiums with the old adboards (playing up to the 2000 with the LED adboards doesn´t feel right).
 

V.K

Starting XI
Maybe it would be easier to create some generic adboards specific for each league of each season?
As a minimum, yes.
But while we have older FIFAs content still available for download, we might as well make use of it.

Having just a single adboard for several teams without any Nike/adidas/Fly Emirates/Bwin clash is near impossible for someone with attention-to-detail OCD :D

I understand why Giggi might not be interested in this for weoght and priority, so an optional add-on could be fine.

you can even go until 03-04
So 2000-2003 might be the real challenge, where we might have to go one adboard for league for starters.


PS maybe we should arrange this project somehow to avoid double work.
Today I have found FIFA 10 adboards for EPL, Bundesliga and Serie A, FIFA 09 for RPL, FIFA 08 for EPL, La Liga and Serie A.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Yeah, with the quantity this patch has to offer (i believe it triples almost any other patch in football games), i don´t think details such as adboards would influence the experience a lot, maybe for a spin off of this patch (think about it, this patch offers the possibility of being the base for specific year patches!!!). If i had to choose details, i would probably focus on stadium quantity or specific faces/hair.
Ps. I don´t think anyone mentioned it before, but a work that could be done for the purposes of this patch is to adapt the modern stadiums with the old adboards (playing up to the 2000 with the LED adboards doesn´t feel right).
Yes. 700 mb I prefer to occupy them with good quality kits. This means having more teams to play with and create leagues. Maybe 700 mb is all the kits for the Copa America from 1916 to 1989.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
Having just a single adboard for several teams without any Nike/adidas/Fly Emirates/Bwin clash is near impossible for someone with attention-to-detail OCD :D

it's much simpler than it might seem. I did it for the 90s. From the file posted by Vala there are already a good dose of sponsors, almost half of them premier Leauge adboards for the whole decade.

Samsung
Barcley
Sky Sports
Ladbrokes
Lucozade
Nike (with ball) for the seasons in which the nike ball was used.

Someone repeat it like in that file and you already have a good adboard for the premier from 1999-00 to 2009-10 with little effort.
 

V.K

Starting XI
Someone repeat it like in that file and you already have a good adboard for the premier from 1999-00 to 2009-10 with little effort.
As a quick base, yes sure.

But personally I would be happy to convert as many specific adboards for the big teams as possible.
Nostalgia with Pirelli for Inter, Carlsberg for Liverpool and Siemens for Real Madrid.
Feels like football history museum.
 

GIGGIRIVA

Starting XI
As a quick base, yes sure.

But personally I would be happy to convert as many specific adboards for the big teams as possible.
Nostalgia with Pirelli for Inter, Carlsberg for Liverpool and Siemens for Real Madrid.
Feels like football history museum.
It goes into very little detail. Now I speak as a player and not as a developer of the patch. After two games I ignore everything that surrounds the actual game. I think about the pitch, where the ball goes and scoring goals. I skip the replays so even there I'm not looking to see if it says Pirelli, Vodafone or Fly Emirates. As a player then knowing that I will have to download 700 mb more for something I don't know would also bother me. I would like those 700 mb to be occupied in files that amplify the database, that add my favorite teams.

It would be like putting lights on the street for Christmas and having the streets full of holes or the sewer open... As mentioned before.

It would be smoke and mirrors for those who download. It is not the goal of the patch to have such a high level of detail. Never was and never will be. It is a goal of the patch to have as many teams and tournaments as possible to play with. Give as much as possible the opportunity to have your favorite team, give the possibility to say that my cousin, my father, my uncle or my grandfather are also in the Classic Patch. This is the spirit of the patch.

It may be that I come from fifa 97. It was enough for me to read the names of the players to be thrilled to play with those players in a context of non-existent or primitive graphics. But for me a football game must be with a work of art where you look at the canvas, the painting and not... the frame.... I like paintings, not frames XD
 


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