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EA Interview - What do you think?

greglato

Youth Team
I think there is a bit of confusion about the video. As I understand it, it is not from FIFA2001 but from a completely different and new EA game called World Soccer Championship or something like that.

I wonder how the time spent developing this game and Euro2000 will affect FIFA2001.

If "Interviewd" shows up on this forum again maybe you could give us some news on this.
 
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KappA

Guest
SGLEAN you fit that phrase "You just can't teach an old dog new tricks."

This is what I have to put up each freaking time I waste my CPU power on FIFA2K:

- SUPERGOALIES -> You call a goalie that can fly across a whole damn net EACH time realistic ?
- FIXED SHOTS -> I CAN'T CURVE HOW I LIKE IT ? Every freaking shot goes to the stupid keeper's hands !!!
- NO LONG RANGE GOALS -> The only time I have scored from long range is...NEVER !!! And I hate that. It pisses me off to see each time that I shoot, the goalie sticks out his stupid hands like he's god with the ball
- UNREAL DEFENSE -> I've smoked a defender only to have him racing up the field and throw a series of 14 tackles just to whack me and stop me from scoring and then the ref just letting it pass !
- SLIDES IN VAIN -> I can slide all I freaking want, but the stupid offense just does a million feints and tricks and keeps going, and if I do get him, then I get carded
- UNFAIR REFS -> They call everything on ME, but never the computer. They can plow you in the box, in the field, in your own box, but they will never get carded
- PASSES THAT ALWAYS GET INTERCEPTED -> There is hardly a time that a pass of mine does not get intercepted; either that or it hits their legs or head and it conveniently goes to another of their players as if predetermined
- HEADERS -> I CAN'T EVER GET MORE THAN THREE HEADERS !!! THEY ALWAYS WIN THE FUXING HEADERS !!! AlWAYS !!! I HATE THAT !!! Every time, off of a cross, around my box, my freaking defenders move back and let them score. I can't stand that and it's frustrating.
- CHEAP GOALS -> WTF ??? My goalie sometimes just watches the offender WALK past him, or the offender chests the ball and my goalie can't get to him.
- INABILITY TO COUNTER -> There are times when all my defenses go down and the defenders cannot even take away the ball because they are doing a flurry of unrealistically accurate passes that always end up in a goal. this leads to :
- CONSOLATION GOALS -> You are winning with a good score, or are tied at the last minute, and all defenses go down, and voila ! They score with a cheap goal
- PLAYERS -> You complain about names ? Boohoo they don't have the right name in ISS. OH who gives a flyin Phuck ! Who gives a crap about names when you can't even play the game without getting frustrated. They give some horrible player stats to some of the best players and teams in the world.
- CARTOONY GRAPHIX -> Man, I won't even say what I think about the graphix, they just SUCK

I will list every defect that I come across when I have more time. At least when I play ISS I get awesome tactics, crowds, players, TEAMWORK AND PASSES, pitches, etc

HEY CAN YOU CREATE PLAYERS IN FIFA LIKE YOU CAN IN ISS ? I DON"T THINK SO !!! unless you get FED, which was made by the USERS !!!

It's people like you SGLEAN that keep the developers from working to provide a better game, you are impressed by insignicant aspects like player names , and the graphix, which aren't even that good, and arcade gameplay

Try playing ISS, and don't come up with a stupid, lame excuse that makes me want to slap you like "oh it's a console game"

It's much more fun and realistic. Konami reigns, EA has fallen. I definitely will not buy any more products now that Interviewed has acknowledged that they don't make COMPLETE games because they work on console and PC. IF they cannot make a COMPLETE game then they shall not release it, instead of making the consumer pay for trash.

Nuff said before I get too angry here

KappA
 

sglean

Youth Team
Dear Neutral

From what you've described. it should work fine. We use a complete UK set up Pal video, pal Tv and Pal 64. they both work off hair dryer tranformers and the house has not burnt down yet.

Pinball football? You guys must watch the Premier league sometime.
 

sglean

Youth Team
Dear KAPPA

Your frustrations seem more to do with skill levels than actual game play.

Granted I share your grievance about long range shots
but everything else is football. You don't win every header in the box and you don't lose them all either, at least I don't. Its all about timing. As for player creations. I do want the REAL player because its a simulation to me. I try to make teams better through realistic transfers which I govern and I try to get West Ham to win the Premier.

PC games allow you certain freedoms which consoles cannot offer. Changing kits importing new players etc. Why should I spend thousands in rights issues when the fans can do it for free. Do you think POTD pays the premier league or Addidas and Umbro for use of those kits, EA would have to.

Databases, in the world of football its changinfg everyday and mistakes were made but guess what you can rectify them, not on the console I agree but on the PC, no problem. With or without FED, its not brain surgery guys.

Let me reiterate, I did not buy the console version of fifa because of all these problems and Judy Foudy. now Foudy was something to be mad about. EA acknowledged the mistake though, they brought out a patch.

As for slapping me, I suggest you put your energies into something more constructive like playing ISS or learning to play FIFA2K.

I think the consensus is that Fifa sucks, so I think you guys should talk about something else. Fifa bashing is going no where. Start an ISS love fest, but i think someone will start bashing that too, shortly, if anyone cared.

You are not going to change your mind, but I will at least look at ISS again and try to understand it a little better. I hate all that editing and I hate the goalkeeper saving everything, I hate the lack of skill moves and the heading is abysmal. But I willmake the effort just to prove I listen and read your postings.

By the way could you imagine CM with a great soccer engine like ISS or FIFA, now that game would rule.

But a constructive discusion is all about learning things and accepting you don't know everything. I accept I could be wrong and ISS is now the greatest thing since slice bread. NFL2K proved a console could out do a PC game but there is just so much possible through the PC with FIFA and that is my stumbling point. the game play is tremendous.

I don't know what crowds you have but mine are pretty knowledgeable, but that maybe POTD.

Yesterday was Man U vs Everton with Man U needing a victory to stay in the champioship race lead by Chelsea( I control Man U, Liverpool, West Ham and Spurs). What a game which I lost 3-2 and effectively the champioship. I was not going to save it and replay it, but you know, this is football, sometimes you lose. So I accept that maybe Fifa lost this time. But guys its not about being the best this year. Its about continually bringing out a great product year after year. EA does that, beleive me.

They are listening, maybe not here but somewhere these issues are being addressed. We are not rocket scientist and I can assure you if there were easy solutions to these problems they would be resolved by 2001. Code issues are very difficult and time constraints mean that 2001 will be basically be finished by the release of EURO 2000 . What is left is tweaking and testing and rights issues.

KAPPA, violence never solved anything, except in World War Two.

I enjoyed your response and don't lose that passion. Football rules.

You see, I can't score in ISS as much as I would like and you can't score in Fifa, see its all about goals folks.
 
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Neutral

Guest
sglean:
Thanks, - you said your all UK set up works fine, I'm just concerned since mine will be kind of a hybrid - will me North American PSX be sending out the right signal? (does it matter???)

As for pinball football = premier league
haha - now there's an old stereotype, and a most untrue one (unless you watch Bradford or Watford) - and still, even though they may play kick and run, it still isn't nearly as fast as Fifa2k.

Oh, and the heading in ISS takes time to get used to - it's different from Fifa that's all.
 
S

Schumacher

Guest
COME ON INTERVIEWED. EVERYBODY IS WAITING. REPLY TO OUR QUESTIONS!!!

(Ahhh! What if EA have got to him? He may be tied to a chair in a small room right now, undergoing torture. Just hope he doesn't tell them about all the stuff he's told us, or we could get a knock on the door in the middle of the night...)
 
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ISSEVOLUTION

Guest
"I hate all that editing and I hate the goalkeeper saving everything"

Oh the irony, you were just saying how database is changing and you can edit easily with the PC, but when it comes to editing on the PSX you hate it.

And thats the problem with sglean EA they think they can give teams with inacurate rosters and colors/kits (does the data base of kits/team colors change that much?dont think so) and expect the user to fix their mistakes.

And about the goalie, I never seen him stop shots like the goalie from FIFA does. Most of the shots in ISS are deflected where in FIFA the goalie just grabs the ball.

"Granted I share your grievance about long range shots
but everything else is football"

everything else except:

Correct Pitch size
Realistic Pace
Proper Kits (why the hell include 300 teams with wrong kits, Id rather have 50 team with proper kits or at least unlimeted slots to edit)
Proper Referee Calls (they never call against the cpu and the fouls are always random)
Realistic Tackles (theres not recover time from tackles, once I was chased by a midfielder and he tackled 12 times from my midfield to near his box, in his last tackle he brought me down and the ref didnt call a foul.)

Sglean you have to understand that we are this mad because EA is making excuses for FIFA2k being crap and are blaming us for not giving enough feed-back, how hard is to come to this board and read what we would like in the next fifa?

Not only that but all the false statements about FIFA2k having linesman, number of teams.....

"You see, I can't score in ISS as much as I would like and you can't score in Fifa, see its all about goals folks."

Your being infected by the American mentality.

I love ISS because the score are always close 3x2, 1x1 and its hard to beat the Ai.

Now in FIFA the scores are always 6x3 7x4 and in world class the AI only wins because they cheat, fouls are never called against them and whenever I tackle its a foul and their tackles seems always more efficient.


btw sglean what do you think of ISS ball controll/powerbar.

 
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PolishPower

Guest
Neutral: what do you mean you have a mod-chipped playstation? You mean you have pal and ntsc chips in your box(kind of multi-system psx). If you have the pal chip in the PSX and multi-system tv I would think european games would work fine.
 

sglean

Youth Team
HI ISS

Hate the power bars, its just not football but my son and I are playing right now and we are having a great time. I am losing as usual.

I think your right about the American mentality, but Ice hockey has much the same scores as Football but there is always something going on. Americans don't seem to appreciate real football. A nil nil score can be just as exciting as 3 nil, again its about perspective. My scores on world class level are very football like, now on professional level I have given sides a 10 nil pasting. I think in one season Di Canio had 75 goals.

Hope things stay cordial and remember its only a game. I think the Leeds incident has taught us that.

By the
 
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ISSEVOLUTION

Guest
Yeah some people hate the powerbar, it takes time to get used. I like it alot, its great for counter-attacks, if you hold just right the long-pass button you can get a clean break.

Sorry if I sounded abit harsh and foolish, is just that MrInterviewer got me pissed about all the lame excuses, specialy when he blame us for not giving enough feedback.



[This message has been edited by ISSEVOLUTION (edited 04-16-2000).]
 
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interviewed

Guest
in reply to 'portugal2004':
about the people on the sidelines...

'Well what was the cr@p in the first 4 screen shots EA released for Fifa2K FIFA 2008!!! '

These were Softimage pictures, not actual game shots

about the videos :

'WHAT not enough space on the CD Fifa2000 only took up 412mb of the 615mb possible thats 203mb left to add much more things like more speech or league or even a:'

We never know in advance how much space will be left, besides, people prefer more speech than videos. Also videos take time to build and they look repetitive

about the bigger pitch :

'And how about a bigger pitch and screw the PLAYSTATION part that system will be out of trend when PS2 hits the USA later this year.'

The PS2 is NOT out yet and there are major problems. EA bet a lot on it and... look at the stock ! it's really low now, lots of people are not so confident about it. PS2 should come, but it's not there yet and no one can say when it'll be there for sure, lots of things happened. And, EA can't afford to screw the Playstation when seventy percent of the sales are on it. It's more important than the PC.

'ROATATING ADBOARDS LIKE NBALIVE2000 and NH2000.'

I think they were planned in the last game. I've no idea what happened to them, lots of features were cut down by lack of time

BENCH PLAYERS ARE POSSIBLE ALL OTHER EA TITLES HAVE THEM

They're definetly possible, but having the game up and running for the release date is more important. That's how priorities work...
 
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Neutral

Guest
The more this goes on, the more I am stuck between questioning the validity of this 'Interviewed', and marveling at the incompetence present at EA Sports....
 

Matt Holme

Founder
Moderator
Neutral, do you honestly think that I would post news about "interviewed" on Soccer Gaming and FIFA 2000 Online, two sites that between them receive over 10,000 visitors per day, only to being telling a fib?Seriously man... although you may not like what "interviewed" is telling you, if there are two people in this entire forum you should believe, it is myself and "interviewed".
 
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ISSEVOLUTION

Guest
So what your saying MrInterviewer is that we wont see major changes any time soon in FIFA?


"'WHAT not enough space on the CD Fifa2000 only took up 412mb of the 615mb possible thats 203mb left to add much more things like more speech or league or even a:'

We never know in advance how much space will be left, besides, people prefer more speech than videos. Also videos take time to build and they look repetitive"

Ok so why not put the 203MB to use, why not make individual jerseys for each team.

Also why a lot of jerseys have incorrect colors, I would understand wrong rosters since they change a lot, but I cant understand why EA cant get right jersey colors.

btw How is FIFA2k selling compared to past FIFAs.



[This message has been edited by ISSEVOLUTION (edited 04-17-2000).]
 
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ISSEVOLUTION

Guest
Mr Interviewer, Im going make a list of things Id like to see in the next FIFA and I want you to tell me if EA is planning to do it or not:

1) Bigger Pitch

2) Slower Pace (I think a bigger pitch would already slow it down)

3) Better ball controll (a powerbar would be cool, It would give you better control for longpassing and shooting)

4) Better Referee calls (right now is just to random even if the ref is set to maximum, this is football not rugby, tackles from behind should be a foul)

5) More Controll over Tackles ( You should have to aim the direction of the tackle and it should take some time for players to recover from it)

6) Better Goalie animation and Ai (some of the animations are just weird, like sometimes the goalie lets the ball through his legs just to jump back and save it inches before going into the goal)

7) Better AI


btw It would help a lot if you guys played other football games specialy ISS.

[This message has been edited by ISSEVOLUTION (edited 04-17-2000).]
 
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KappA

Guest
SGLEAN:

I know how to play fifa games very well, thank you. I've played over 700 fifa99 matches on world class, and close to 400 on fifa2k on world class.

If you would like proof of my skill you can visit http://replays.soccergaming.com

Look in the Great Goals Section and I am RIO, with an 88.25 % not including my free kicks. In the free kicks section I have the most number posted with 3, and I'd like to see YOU score from the near post like I did off of a free kick.

Nuff Said.

 
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PolishPower

Guest
Interviewed, in reply to your comments about Playstation and PS2.

First of all, thank you for that information that 70 percent of sales on this game come from PSX system. That being the case, I want to know why uncounted man-hours of FIFA's development time were spent on different cheat modes like "Alien" which are: 1. plain silly and unnecessary, and 2. unavailable to the 70 percent of your customers?


Also what was the reason for absence of unlimited bank-roll cheats for PSX version for the past two years, a crucial cheat for those who like to build fantasy teams.

I emailed these questions to EA last year and they never offered a reply, so I thought maybe you knew.

As to PS 2:
what do you mean it is not out yet? It has been released in Japan, and will be out in rest of the world before the end of this year, and if you heard anything otherwise I'd sure love to hear it here. The only problems with the system that I'm aware of is that it was inadvertantly mulit-system capable, basically it could play DVD's from different zones, (apparently breaking some kind of international commerce laws).

Also I would't worry too much about Sony stock, it just happens to be the biggest electronics company in the world, and I don't think anyone is putting them out of business anytime soon. And yes, I will be buying PS2 the first day of it's release in USA,(this will probably mean a long wait in line, maybe days...)


[This message has been edited by PolishPower (edited 04-18-2000).]
 
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PolishPower

Guest
I have 3 more questions for Interviewed:

It is my understanding that absence of some teams from FIFA 2000 (Galatasaray, Porto, Sporting L.) had to do with money issues, there was a rumor going around that Gala wanted 50 thousand dollars etc. My question is: did the EA team consider making a fake team with slightly altered names of players as is the common practice with games which lack necessary licenses? As it now stands with the game, by EA omitting these teams completely, the experience of playing a fantasy Champions League is basically ruined.

Why are we limited to 1 user team in a season when we could play up to 8 teams in the past? This detracts from enjoyment for those who want to control more than 1 team, or for those who like to re-play a season agains some friends.

Why are the 2nd division teams not available to the player in the game, for playing in exhibiton mode, or for making transfers in the main front screen? At the time shortly before the release, there was much said over the fact how great it was that 2nd division teams would be in the game, but total incredulity after the game was released at the fact that EA made these teams unavailable for even exhibition matches.


[This message has been edited by PolishPower (edited 04-18-2000).]

[This message has been edited by PolishPower (edited 04-18-2000).]
 
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kagey

Guest
one question for interviewed:
do you enjoy playing fifa2000?

i know that i don't.
i want to real real bad.
but i don't.
do you?
 
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interviewed

Guest
I don't have much time today, but here are a few answers to some questions :

ISSEVOLUTION : fifa 2k is not selling as much as the previous releases

POLISHPOWER : when I said the ps2 is not out yet here, I can name a few things such as doesn't meet the fcc rules, and Japanese gov rumored to restrain the export (long story, but it really has some sense). They are really having major issues right now. The US console is rumored to have a modem though. I can explain a bit more about all this, but it's pretty long

PSX has to be ready before PC because of manufacturing constraints, so there's a bit more time on the PC side. That's why the cheat modes were implemented on PC only. It's true that they would have been really cool on the PSX.

I have no clue why the Jersey colors are wrong, that's just a big mistake I believe.

Teams and Stadiums have to do with licencing, that's a tough subject. I don't think there's an ideal solution. Not having a team or mis-spelling the names in it are not ideal solutions. People will be unhappy either way
 


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