Edited pitch textures

[Doktor]

Originally posted by Kibble
Yup, it's rubbish. Hardly an improvement, and a big step backwards if you ask me. I appreciate the effort he's gone to with the stadiums, but making every pitch texture virtually the same (and looking worse than they did before IMO) just doesn't make any sense to me. Oh well...

Glad you like them then. First of all, the pitch patterns, colours and textures are not all the same. It must be you. Secondly, whether this is common knowledge or not, there are only so many grass patterns used in real life. These are:
- stripe up/down
- strip left/right
- checked
- criss-cross
- circle

I used graphics studio to do these pitches and hence all the restrictions of the program restrict what I can do in the game. If I wanted, I could have really elaborated with the textures but it would have looked stupid. I could superimpose any template onto the pitches. Would you play with balls which are fluorescent pink and have pictures of giraffes on them? Common sense prevailed. You know what common sense is, mate?

In my humble opinion, I thought the default pitch textures were $hite and reduced my enjoyment of the game. I noticed on the forum that the majority of the people didn't like the textures either. Shame on me for deciding to do something about it and wanting to share it with the community. I definiotely see them as an improvement. I understand that the pitches were made to suit personal taste. You like the brown turfs on the stade velodrome and ennio tardini? I don't. What about the sharp look of the grass at the westfalenstadion and the wavy texture on the bombanera? Like them too? I don't like the mud, so the mud was taken out. Look at stadiums at the beginning of the season. Are there mud patches on newly laid turfs?

FCH the great stadium and pitch editor seemed to like them. He even used then in a patch of his. That is the highest praise you can get.

Finally I will say this: I don't mind criticism as long as it's constructive. Jimbo118 downloaded pack 1 and said the ennio tardini and mestalla pitches weren't quite right and to try altering them by offering suggestions. For a person to slag them off outright is unjust and offensive. I shared my work. I never forced you to use them.

Read your signature long and hard, Kibble. I don't give a $hit that you've posted over 500 times. It doesn't make you any more important. I've been playing the ISS/PES series as long as anybody else and I won't be talked to like that.

 

[jimbo118]

docs pitches are far better than the default 1s,oh yeah while im here,doc any chance of a anfield update,it has a very realistic look to it but i find it quite dark,any chance of maybe a more vibrant look?

 

[Doktor]

Originally posted by jimbo118
docs pitches are far better than the default 1s,oh yeah while im here,doc any chance of a anfield update,it has a very realistic look to it but i find it quite dark,any chance of maybe a more vibrant look?

Will do mate. Won't be until w/end tho as got loads of uni work to get thru 1st.

I hurried the 2nd pack out so it's not perfect. I'll work on some of the stadiums at some point cos they can obviously be improved. It's just having the time.

 

[Criss]

Doktor the textures are great and better than the originals.Its clearly that the textures are different but i don't seem to see circle turfs.This is the only thing that might not be right.
As far as kibble he is the tipe that doesen't know to apreciate someones work.

 

[jimbo118]

cheers doc ,good luck with your uni work,i'm well behind too

 

[Doktor]

Originally posted by Criss
Doktor the textures are great and better than the originals.Its clearly that the textures are different but i don't seem to see circle turfs.This is the only thing that might not be right.
As far as kibble he is the tipe that doesen't know to apreciate someones work.

I removed the circles from the Amsterdam Arenaand the Stadio Olimpico cos many people didn't like them. For the Estadio Nacional the circle is very feint but there. I will work on these textures this w/end and try and get them right as I know they don't look great just being plain. It's the same with Anfield..

I really need some feedback from everybody on what needs improving and how and then I can start from there. Appreciate the support tho,

Doktor.

 

[ronaldo9]

doctor i download your file part1 & 2 for my xbox but it doesn't work, is it for pc user only? help thanks in advance

 

[Criss]

Originally posted by Doktor
I removed the circles from the Amsterdam Arenaand the Stadio Olimpico cos many people didn't like them. For the Estadio Nacional the circle is very feint but there. I will work on these textures this w/end and try and get them right as I know they don't look great just being plain. It's the same with Anfield..

I really need some feedback from everybody on what needs improving and how and then I can start from there. Appreciate the support tho,

Doktor.

For me its grate news.But just to be sure the circle turfs should be at the stadium that had this ingame or realy have or had circle turfs.Keep up the great work.

 

[Kibble]

I'm entitled to my opinion as much as the next person, and I am not relying on my post count to back up anything I say. As i said in my post, I appreciate the work you've done on the stadiums themselves - they are very good. They turfs, no matter what you say, are pretty much the same though. They are not identical, i give you that, but there is little to distinguish them from each other. The grain is still visible and, on my screen atleast, the colour of the green patches seems to subtly change at random as the camera moves around.

You don't like the mud, that is fine, but all pitches get worn after a while, and if you have chosen to 'freeze time' by keeping them brand new all the time, that is not exactly realistic (if that is your goal here). Plus, it's not exactly in keeping with the players' strips getting ever more muddy as the game progresses, not to mention wet weather. It's more like playing on astro turf than grass.

The original pitches were hardly perfect - some pretty awful as you say, but there were some very good ones in there, as many others will agree - but all you've really done is homogenize it all. Maybe calling it 'rubbish' was a bit harsh, but it's how I felt at the time after having such high expectations.

Oh, and you're quite wrong when you say the 'majority of people' didn't like the original pitches - you obviously are only going to see complaints from those who don't like them, not rave reviews from the ones that DO like them. You hardly did an in-depth survey.

 

[sattan_hussein]

the colour of the green patches seems to subtly change at random as the camera moves around.

yes. on the goal area, for example, it is more gray, and on the center is perfectly green...

 

[Poliphilo]

Hi Doktor, your pitch patch is great! So, I've a question: I've already downloaded and installed somes FCH's stadium upgrades before to read this thread, now I get your files but I would also keep the new files of FCH update (especially the new 6 german stadium) but using your pitch files. I extracted, from your bin files, the first 4 .bmp (about the green pitch) and I've tried to insert (with WE picture decoder) in the FCH .bin files that I already had, but how have I to set the trasparency? For all first 4 .bmp (pitch texturers) of FCH's .bin files (example: stw01dfbase.bin, stw01drbase.bin, stw01nfbase.bin, stw01nrbase.bin) I've imported your .bmp files, then I opened the "Trasparency palette" and I set it to opaque ("set opaque") and I saved it and imported it in the 0_text.afs , but in the game I see the pitch blue without the green textures, why?

I know FCH will release very soon his new patch: will it keep in also your great pitch textures? It's should be better to waiting for his complete stadiums patch?

I'm sorry, but I like also to do some "textures experiments" cause I'm learning to make some editing works on my own.
Anyway thanks for your help to get better this game.

Bye.

 

[MetalGear]

There are some new pitches for "rounded" stadiums
Files approach both for "rounded" stads, and for " cells", but are looked (me) better on "rounded" 8)

Files are importing with Graphic Studio 05 01 01 Full :!:





file for you:
http://img113.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img113&image=q11cs.png
Save target as... *.bmp

one more:





file for you:
http://img229.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img229&image=q29lo.png
Save target as... *.bmp

more:





file for you:
http://img190.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img190&image=qq3cp.png
Save target as... *.bmp

insert everywhere instead of it, or something similar:


P.S. all photos from Amsterdam Arena

 

[zeus78]

@MetalGear
welle done but i dont like this textures. try to make the pitch texture for amstersdam arena transparent, that will be very nice. no figures on the pitch, just green

 

[Calenulma]

There are some new pitches for "rounded" stadiums
Files approach both for "rounded" stads, and for " cells", but are looked (me) better on "rounded" 8)

Wich file determine if the pitch effects are round, straight or diagonal? can we change them?

 

[MetalGear]

Calenulma

Wich file determine if the pitch effects are round, straight or diagonal? can we change them?

I don't know
but I know that Ariel made "straight" pitch for Amsterdam "day fine"
and there were a lot of different files, so I dont know which of them determine the pitch effect

zeus78

try to make the pitch texture for amstersdam arena transparent, that will be very nice. no figures on the pitch, just green

I don't think so
"just green" is like a capit, not a grass

 

[zeus78]

yeah but better than the terrible sample in the stadium which we have now

 

[MetalGear]

zeus78

yeah but better than the terrible sample in the stadium which we have now

maybe

 

[Calenulma]

Anyone can change the effects on the pitch from circles to lines?